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Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:19 am

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I understand where he is coming from, to me Squeeks just seems like another wasted "gimmick" character. And of course we watched Transformers when we were kids because they shot at each other and fought, not the stories so much. Thats why most of us are here, I was 6 in 1984 and fell in love with Sunbow G1 Transformers.


I know I understand why he does not like it i initially did not like BB-8 from the new Star Wars film during the trailers but then I realized that he was not made to impress older folk like me but as a marketing tool for the kids instead of just reusing R2-D2 for the millionth time same thing here Bumblebee is a great kid friendly character but he also isn't exactly an adorable mascot marketing type character he is just the cool factor marketing character.


Bumblebee is for the kids who want to see a bad ass while being a familiar character to the older fans

Squeeks is for the kids who want to see something adorable and a great source for soft plushies and is made for the younger/newer fans.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:50 am

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Am glad to see him back. Love his design and has the coolest use of car kibble ever. :)
Wonder what his new toy will be like, perhaps similar to the fun AoE toy but just improved?

(I kinda like Sqweeks... he reminds me of the kid who played Tiny Tim in the local production of 'A Christmas Carol' I did last year, I was the happy new nephew Fred and also the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come... cool skull mask! As the ghost I mean, not as Fred. :P )
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:55 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:(I kinda like Sqweeks... he reminds me of the kid who played Tiny Tim in the local production of 'A Christmas Carol' I did last year, I was the happy new nephew Fred and also the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come... cool skull mask! As the ghost I mean, not as Fred. :P )

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:34 am

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Thing is we don't know what sqweeks role actually is in the movie yet, we can speculate all we want but for all we know the writers could have a good plan for him as a character and that he is the last knight! Of course he would get severely upgraded if that was the case in the films last act.

As for crosshairs, I do like trench coats...though I wasn't terribly impressed by his character last movie. Though on saying that it was good to see he actually had a character :-)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:48 am

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ZeroWolf wrote:Thing is we don't know what Sqweeks role actually is in the movie yet,


We know what it is!


Cute mascot character for the kids to adore over!

My little sister (who is 9 and has watched the Transformers movies in the past with me I mute the inappropriate language even though she knows about it and knows not to say bad words) already loves Squeeks and likes his name although she is confused about the whole peg leg thing and she asked me why he only has one wheel since at first she thought it was Fixit from the Rid cartoon my sis thought Transformers Prime was boring and usually would not want to watch it with me which is a part of why I don't like that show but she loves RID for being an actual kids show.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 08, 2016 4:59 am

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Deadput wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Thing is we don't know what Sqweeks role actually is in the movie yet,


We know what it is!


Cute mascot character for the kids to adore over!

My little sister (who is 9 and has watched the Transformers movies in the past with me I mute the inappropriate language even though she knows about it and knows not to say bad words) already loves Squeeks and likes his name although she is confused about the whole peg leg thing and she asked me why he only has one wheel since at first she thought it was Fixit from the Rid cartoon my sis thought Transformers Prime was boring and usually would not want to watch it with me which is a part of why I don't like that show but she loves RID for being an actual kids show.

:lol: I should of seen that coming :-P

I should clarify what I meant to say, I meant his role in the actual story :-)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:12 am

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As the movie characters design "more human styled", the toy design has to go more "wrapped": the robotic bodies will be involved less and less in the transformation...

Take BWN Break as an example...
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Hate this trend...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:23 am

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KennethAkfaer wrote:As the movie characters design "more human styled", the toy design has to go more "wrapped": the robotic bodies will be involved less and less in the transformation...

Take BWN Break as an example...
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Hate this trend...

Or, for a more recent and relevant-to-the-movies example...

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What about this leader-class toy who wears almost his entire alt mode on his back?

edit: also, this

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Still, it's not as if all the movie toys are getting bad because of it. There was an evolution 2-pack for sale at the UK TRU which gave me Evasion Optimus and Classics Optimus for 20 quid; and while I bought it purely because I wanted a Classics Optimus, the Evasion one turned out to a very solid voyager toy with a clever transformation - albeit with some irritating panelling and fiddling.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 10:08 am

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Kurona wrote:Or, for a more recent and relevant-to-the-movies example...

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What about this leader-class toy who wears almost his entire alt mode on his back?

edit: also, this

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Still, it's not as if all the movie toys are getting bad because of it. There was an evolution 2-pack for sale at the UK TRU which gave me Evasion Optimus and Classics Optimus for 20 quid; and while I bought it purely because I wanted a Classics Optimus, the Evasion one turned out to a very solid voyager toy with a clever transformation - albeit with some irritating panelling and fiddling.



Love that cute old penguin gun...truly madly deeply :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.

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Have 4 or 5 09 movie Primes at home and still love the old fashion of transforming. :-D :-D

The character designs since movie 4 killed both the toys and the designers ;) ...
Hope Shogo Hasui can bring some new ideas to the movie 5 toys.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:03 am

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KennethAkfaer wrote:Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.



I still like mine a lot. Currently my fave Optimus toy ever. Poses well, looks great in both modes, doesn't take tooo long to transform but is complex enough to be interesting and still just love the whole gimmick of agile, athletic looking movie Prime being able to turn into blocky G1 cab more convincingly than a lot of G1 Prime figures do. :)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:17 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:
KennethAkfaer wrote:Have NO movie 4 toys but played with several. The Milk-Magazine Battle Damaged Evasion Prime is a very impressive movie 4 toy.



I still like mine a lot. Currently my fave Optimus toy ever. Poses well, looks great in both modes, doesn't take tooo long to transform but is complex enough to be interesting and still just love the whole gimmick of agile, athletic looking movie Prime being able to turn into blocky G1 cab more convincingly than a lot of G1 Prime figures do. :)
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You pose it great. Custom painted?

My all time fave movie Prime toy is this APS01U. Mine is not fully armed due to the space limit...
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The movie 4 leader class Prime is a simpler wrapper... And the upcoming movie 5 knight :BANG_HEAD: ...
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:23 am

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KennethAkfaer wrote:You pose it great. Custom painted?

Yeah bit of paint here and there (I'm no professional as you can see but I did enough to make it look a bit more like CGI model) and Reprolabels stickers for the flames. The standard Hasbro version just looked a bit too much like a poor quality knock off of itself in it's plastic and colour scheme. Much happier with it since I customed it. :)
My all time fave movie Prime toy is this APS01U. Mine is not fully armed due to the space limit...

The movie 4 leader class Prime is a simpler wrapper... And the upcoming movie 5 knight :BANG_HEAD: ...


Yeah I used to have RotF Leader Buster Prime but had to sell cos needed moneys and he towered over most my other figures a bit. Really cool toy though. :)

Is there a movie 5 toy yet or you just going by the movie 5 Prime looking like the movie 4 Prime and expecting the same kind of toy? :P
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:29 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:Is there a movie 5 toy yet or you just going by the movie 5 Prime looking like the movie 4 Prime and expecting the same kind of toy? :P

I am not going to buy any movie toys if the WRAPPER design stays still :-D :-D :-D
Second, I love Megatron =P~ =P~ =P~
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Carnivius_Prime » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:35 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:Is there a movie 5 toy yet or you just going by the movie 5 Prime looking like the movie 4 Prime and expecting the same kind of toy? :P

I am not going to buy any movie toys if the WRAPPER design stays still :-D :-D :-D
Second, I love Megatron =P~ =P~ =P~


heh. I'm really looking forward to them cos movie toys tend to be my fave (I like some Gens & Titans for updates of fave old characters but I got back into Transformers cos the movie stuff is what I had wanted since I was a kid and would often redesign characters in the back of my schoolbooks as to how they might actually function & transform in real life). I'm keen to see what they do with Prime. I really liked the Armor Knight leader toy but I loved the difference between the 2007 and 2009 Leader Class Primes despite them being based on the same design they turned out far more differently, like Hastak had a much better understanding of how to compress all those rectanguler truck parts into movie Prime's much more streamlined self. The 2007 toy is still fun in it's own right though as a Transformers figure but for accuracy they really knocked it out of the park with the 2009 RotF toy so maybe they'll do it again with his knight form?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:58 am

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:heh. I'm really looking forward to them cos movie toys tend to be my fave (I like some Gens & Titans for updates of fave old characters but I got back into Transformers cos the movie stuff is what I had wanted since I was a kid and would often redesign characters in the back of my schoolbooks as to how they might actually function & transform in real life). I'm keen to see what they do with Prime. I really liked the Armor Knight leader toy but I loved the difference between the 2007 and 2009 Leader Class Primes despite them being based on the same design they turned out far more differently, like Hastak had a much better understanding of how to compress all those rectanguler truck parts into movie Prime's much more streamlined self. The 2007 toy is still fun in it's own right though as a Transformers figure but for accuracy they really knocked it out of the park with the 2009 RotF toy so maybe they'll do it again with his knight form?

As I look back to the character designs of RotF Prime, I could say that the chest could come from the truck's front window. And that's how the 2009 Leader Class transforms.
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But the movie 4 prime, the designer should have kill Bay for the human like body of prime :lol: :lol: :lol:
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And in the last knight poster, we could see a human like body again... So don't know what designers could do than a wrapper again....
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:01 pm

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Carnivius_Prime wrote:heh. I'm really looking forward to them cos movie toys tend to be my fave (I like some Gens & Titans for updates of fave old characters but I got back into Transformers cos the movie stuff is what I had wanted since I was a kid and would often redesign characters in the back of my schoolbooks as to how they might actually function & transform in real life). I'm keen to see what they do with Prime. I really liked the Armor Knight leader toy but I loved the difference between the 2007 and 2009 Leader Class Primes despite them being based on the same design they turned out far more differently, like Hastak had a much better understanding of how to compress all those rectanguler truck parts into movie Prime's much more streamlined self. The 2007 toy is still fun in it's own right though as a Transformers figure but for accuracy they really knocked it out of the park with the 2009 RotF toy so maybe they'll do it again with his knight form?

As I look back to the character designs of RotF Prime, I could say that the chest could come from the truck's front window. And that's how the 2009 Leader Class transforms.
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But the movie 4 prime, the designer should have kill Bay for the human like body of prime :lol: :lol: :lol:
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And in the last knight poster, we could see a human like body again... So don't know what designers could do than a wrapper again....
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It's still very possible to get a good transformation out of a human-like body without resorting to shellforming. Also, you don't have to try and put a source for images on message board posts
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby KennethAkfaer » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:08 pm

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Kurona wrote:It's still very possible to get a good transformation out of a human-like body without resorting to shellforming.


Generations Arcee :-D :-D :-D (if we ignore the backpack, which is a shellforming)
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:04 pm

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Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:06 pm

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ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?

You can pretend it's his longcoat. That seems to be the intention.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?
It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?
It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.

Huh, I thought the Voyager Grimlock was supposed to be decent? That's a shame, I was thinking of picking up the AOE dinobots eventually.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Bleak5170 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:52 pm

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Blozor wrote:I like that they've found a way to give the robots something that resembles actual faces now, 4 or especially 5 movies in. This is what their faces should have looked like from the get-go, instead of the insectoid monstrosities we started out with.


I still don't see anything resembling a face when I look at movie Ratchet.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Aug 08, 2016 3:03 pm

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Bleak5170 wrote: I still don't see anything resembling a face when I look at movie Ratchet.


I'm pretty sure everyone can see a face since that's usually where the head is located which is on the top.

Do you need to see an optometrist for your eyes?

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A gif of said face moving
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Well you don't need to worry about your face seeing skills for Ratchet anymore he doesn't even have a face!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Autobot N wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Was the 2014 crosshairs any good? My tru still has some left and I keep looking at it but he has a car shell on his back, is there anything you can so with it?
It sucked. It wasn't as bad as Grimlock or Galvatron, but it still sucked.

Huh, I thought the Voyager Grimlock was supposed to be decent? That's a shame, I was thinking of picking up the AOE dinobots eventually.

Actually he is a good figure. Especially if you fiddle with him a bit in robot mode, you can eliminate his butt kibble and his munky arms. All of the AOE Dinobots are pretty dang decent in fact, with the only crappy ones being Snarl and Slash (Though I can't entirely speak for the former, as I've never owned him.)
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