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fenrir72 wrote:The King Arthur aspect, is that like a nod to the time travel episode in Season 2 cartoon?
DocBot89 wrote:When you say that Canopy is a tertiary character does that mean that he is pretty much a throw-away and dies immediately?
There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...
Alternately:
"The science of GoBotron would appear as magic to you humans." -- Cy-Kill.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:I haven't seen this on the site anywhere. First look at movie Hotrod? Granted, I've been avoiding movie talk like a plauge, so this could very well be old news.
Nexus Knight wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...
Alternately:
"The science of GoBotron would appear as magic to you humans." -- Cy-Kill.
Really? I can't recall when there was. Though, I could have just not seen it, so if you can point it out, I'll change my statement.
Ironhidensh wrote:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 4635291325
I haven't seen this on the site anywhere. First look at movie Hotrod? Granted, I've been avoiding movie talk like a plauge, so this could very well be old news.
Caelus wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There's been magic displayed in Transformers fiction before.Nexus Knight wrote:Merlin? Merlin? MERLIN???? Ah, slaggin', crap. Please don't mix magic in. Please don't have magic mixed in my favorite sci-fi franchise...
Alternately:
"The science of GoBotron would appear as magic to you humans." -- Cy-Kill.
Really? I can't recall when there was. Though, I could have just not seen it, so if you can point it out, I'll change my statement.
In the original cartoon, iirc:
- There's a Quintesson sorceror who uses magic straight up.
- An Atlantean princess transforms Seaspray into a flesh and blood person.
- Unicron repairs and completely physically alters the bodies of several Decepticons without touching them.
- The Matrix heavily alters Hot Rod into Rodimus with no apparent physical mechanism.
- The Matrix blows up Unicron through sheer force of goodness.
- The Matrix cures the galaxy spanning hate plague basically the same way.
- Starscream becomes a ghost.
Beast Era
- Starscream is still a ghost.
- The Vok are incorporeal floating skulls. At some point you just have to call it what it is.
- Megatron's master plan in Beast Machines was to devour enough souls to become a god.
Car Robots
- IIRC villain fed on energy of Earth's children through demonic ghost bats or something.
- Same villain was defeated by the collective love of Earth's children.
Unicron Trilogy
- IIRC Unicron is destroyed by Minicons using the Care Bear Stare.
- Starscream tries to become a god.
Transformers: Animated
- Prowl's entire character arc.
Dreamwave's Transformers
- Bludgeon and his cult perform a demonic ritual to summon The Fallen (and succeed).
Transformers: Aligned Continuity
- The Blood of Unicron (Dark Energob) makes Zombies.
- The Forge of Solus Prime makes/fixes things by beating on them. Smokescreen LITERALLY heals Optimus by smacking him with the hammer of a god.
- Unicron can make rock golems.
- Megatron is bound to Unicron's service after death, because of using Dark Energon.
IDW Comics
- D-Void, The Darkness, the Dead Universe, and almost everything associated with them
- Alternate Rewind isn't erased from the universe when they destroy the alternate Lost Light, which they explicitly state has no scientific explanation.
- The Enigma of Combination, whose source code (which presumably is the same as all of the other Primal relics) basically gives a person godlike power.
- Anything Perceptor says (according to Hot Rod).
I'm not 100% on all of those but that's what immediately popped into my head.
Yeah, I wouldn't consider most of those examples in that list to be magic, but instead more of hard sci-fi or alien nature. The Quintesson sorcerer definitely counts, though, as does the Golden One outright using magic incantations to cast spell attacks against said sorcerer, all of which happened in the G1 cartoon episode "Madman's Paradise".Nexus Knight wrote:Maybe it's how I view "magic" as being, but many of these I don't consider to be so. I'm like my family, they have to outright state it as so for us to consider it magical. But several of these (like the Quintossen sorcerer, which I'd forgotten about) are on that fence, so I take back what I said. Though, would point out, Starscream was told to have a spark defect, which is why it's indestructible.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Another example of pure magic from the G1 cartoon would be from the episode "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", in which a wizard uses a magic spell to recharge the power-drained Autobots with lightning.
There are some who call him... Tim.Giant Purple Griffin wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Another example of pure magic from the G1 cartoon would be from the episode "A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court", in which a wizard uses a magic spell to recharge the power-drained Autobots with lightning.
Even though his name is Beorht, that wizard is basically Merlin anyway.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ScottyP wrote:I know those are dragon heads on the poster, but all I can see is Kremzeek.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
NovaSentinel wrote:Looks alot like Megatron's Movie 1 body on that poster, maybe we'll see it again in a flashback sequence of the war on Cybertron?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote: thanks to some clever editing, the plot wasn't revealed.
Dagon wrote:Seibertron wrote: thanks to some clever editing, the plot wasn't revealed.
I'd actually bet that this is due more to the general condition of the Transformers movies being tragically light on plot rather than any meisterwerk of editing.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Kurona wrote:Eh, it's an action movie. It's not heavy on plot and it really shouldn't be; movies of this sort work best with a relatively simple plot that's easy to follow with a few twists and turns inserted in there somewhere.
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