karyuudo wrote:Deadput wrote:karyuudo wrote:Anyway knowing Bay's track record, he just name slaps Hasbro character names on whomever he pleases.
He's not the one who gives them their names either.
You must really hate Rid Grimlock (both of them), Animated Prowl, most characters from the Unicron trilogy, and Prime Arcee and Prime Starscream.
Well, let's look at the several names in his movies vs the toys.
Tank Decepticon = Devastator (Movie) / Brawl (Toy)
Autobot Scientist = Que (Movie) / Wheeljack (Toy)
Dinobot = Spike (Movie) / Scorn (Toy)
Either him or his writers are making the name changes here, not Hasbro (at least initially for the first movie since they had total control - not sure how much control he has now).
In regards to the hate for Rid Grimlock, if you're referring to the 2001 Grimlock then, yes, that will always be Build Hurricane in my eyes. Grimlock was a total name slap and Saban should be shot for doing a horrible translation / dub of Car Robots.
As far as the other series go, it depends on how the characters are portrayed on-screen.
The Devastator thing was a mistake and an old concept name for Brawl that Bay wanted left in the movie because it sounded cooler then Brawl he is still officially Brawl in everything else and to be fair movie Brawl is a lot like G1 Brawl as well there is no denying it.
Que was always meant to be a name that Wheeljack used and unlike Dino both names count as seen in the credits of the movie where he is credited as Que/Wheeljack.
Spike is not Scorn's name at all not even in concept art it's only a nickname that Crosshiars gave him for example Scorn is still called that in his TF 5 toys.
You do know plenty of the names come after the vehicles have been picked and concept art's been made which is why plenty of Autobots who make their debuts have their names barley mentioned by humans for example Crosshairs was called Slingshot early on and hey their personalities are pretty similar.
And somebody being shot for giving a character a name wow that's gold there dude and really shows why the fans should just be ignored and never pandered to and I was referring to both Rid Grimlocks the old and new one and to be fair even the first rid Grimlock has a resemblance to the old one.
Think of "name slaps" as being separate characters with same names are you upset when another human is named sam or steve or joe in other movies?
Also Hasbro has plenty of control they send Bay the names to use which either end up used or not.