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Hellscream9999 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...
I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.
I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good
partholon wrote:much as i dislike bays take on the transformers (ive only really copped now that what he's basically done is give us five movies where grimlock is leading the autobots instead of prime. think bout it. the dialogue makes perfect sense if you substitute one character for the other )
i AM glad its doing so well at the cinema.
mainly because IMO its the best film since the first and im disgusted at the pile on by so called "professional critics" who've been flaming it from day one.
its obvious to everyone they were more intrested in trying to kill this franchise than do their job.
Dagon wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...
I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.
I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good
I kinda just jumped to a random page to see what the conversation still was, and I saw this, and I have to admit that I've found myself wondering about the writer's room as well. It's just another installment of "We're going really make the next movie work, guys" that went nowhere. If it took a room of people to come up with the writing for TLK, I'd like to know what happened to the work they produced, because this movie was the same random jumble that the previous four were.
I'm not here to be argumentative or anything, but there's no way it took several competent writers to turn out TLK. And, if it did somehow, I'd hope those writers were relieved of their duties, as they clearly failed in their objectives.
JazZeke wrote:Dagon wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...
I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.
I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good
I kinda just jumped to a random page to see what the conversation still was, and I saw this, and I have to admit that I've found myself wondering about the writer's room as well. It's just another installment of "We're going really make the next movie work, guys" that went nowhere. If it took a room of people to come up with the writing for TLK, I'd like to know what happened to the work they produced, because this movie was the same random jumble that the previous four were.
I'm not here to be argumentative or anything, but there's no way it took several competent writers to turn out TLK. And, if it did somehow, I'd hope those writers were relieved of their duties, as they clearly failed in their objectives.
Keep in mind that this "writer's room" was helmed by the guy who wrote Batman and Robin, so... did you really have any expectations?
JazZeke wrote:Dagon wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not sad, they brought this on themselves by not getting their writing in order, maybe they should hire actually talented writers next time...
I'm honestly finding it more sad that I just don't care. This franchise is literally my favorite thing on the planet, and I couldn't give a damn less that it's hurting right now. I haven't even seen the movie a second time. I watched AOE a whole 7 times in theaters, but I have no desire to see TLK again. They should have delivered on what they promised the first damn time.
I think that's the part that stings the most, that this writer's room was touted for so long to be a turning point for the storytelling aspect and writing, but all they did was force random things they read about (headmasters, duocons, quintessa, time travel, the true nature of earth...) and cram them into this movie without doing anything beyond that to make it any good
I kinda just jumped to a random page to see what the conversation still was, and I saw this, and I have to admit that I've found myself wondering about the writer's room as well. It's just another installment of "We're going really make the next movie work, guys" that went nowhere. If it took a room of people to come up with the writing for TLK, I'd like to know what happened to the work they produced, because this movie was the same random jumble that the previous four were.
I'm not here to be argumentative or anything, but there's no way it took several competent writers to turn out TLK. And, if it did somehow, I'd hope those writers were relieved of their duties, as they clearly failed in their objectives.
Keep in mind that this "writer's room" was helmed by the guy who wrote Batman and Robin, so... did you really have any expectations?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:At the very least, the writers' room gave us one scene in this movie that was both legitimately awesome and amusing: The King Arthur vs. the Saxons battle, featuring Merlin the Drunk.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Why waste time and money to render a decent new form for a guy that will be killed in one of first few minutes?So Wesley Burt who has done Concept art for the movie before such as AOE has posted some images of an early concept of Canopy who in here seems to originally turn into some trains.
At least they admitted that first four movies were just a series of summer blockusters, not a cinematic universe, it dosen't make plot holes any less offensive, but at least they are honest with us. Just not sure If I like that they will try sell the same thing again and again with "hey, look, it's a shared cinematic universe!".But I agree with Kurona's previous post. I think that the writer's room was mainly to try and sell the 'cinematic universe' idea, like it was just a smokescreen to suggest the idea of something grand and unified.
Initial visual development for the Canopy character in Transformers: The Last Knight, based on a Chicago L rail car. He hides all the little bots from drone surveillance with his ruins ghillie suit.
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Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:So Wesley Burt who has done Concept art for the movie before such as AOE has posted some images of an early concept of Canopy who in here seems to originally turn into some trains.
Obviously Canopy became the long haul reuse since well you know but I personally like both.
https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/883181187706961921
https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/883183730751184896
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWO12w2nC5b/
Do you think God stays in heaven because he too, lives in fear of what he's created?
https://twitter.com/wesburt/status/883188802369409024
This is Daytrader aka Steve Buscemi before they threw a beard on this face, gave him a hat and called it a day no seriously look closely to this show of him from a spot and the face shares the base design as this one.
dragons wrote:For people complaining about bots not looking human enough look at Steve buscemi bot character that transformer looks to be created by transformer fan who hate bay transformers realistic looking bots and this character look cartoony looking with human pieces pasted on it make face looking at that bot glad fans don't make transformer movies other wise megatron be big giant that humans can not hold in there hand, and bots be looking cartoony looking with boring blocky body parts not enough car parts showing to make it realistic looking
Seibertron wrote:I don't get why "Daytrader" or the Junk bot wasn't Wreck-Gar. It would have been an appropriate name reuse. Oh well ... hopefully a new direction is just beyond the horizon with the live action film franchise.
My guess, based on Daytrader's concept art, is that they wanted to basically make him be "Steve Buscemi as a Transformer" as a start, but then only added all the excess junk once he ended up being a modified reuse of Hound's robot mode CG model. If that's how it was for him, then Daytrader was meant to be "Daytrader" from the get-go, with the junk being added in later making him similar to Wreck-Gar in only a superficial manner. At least, that's just my theory.Seibertron wrote:I don't get why "Daytrader" or the Junk bot wasn't Wreck-Gar. It would have been an appropriate name reuse. Oh well ... hopefully a new direction is just beyond the horizon with the live action film franchise.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:once he ended up being a modified reuse of Hound's robot mode CG model.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Those were all discussed in the spoiler thread. This is the non-spoiler thread.Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw anyone elso notice these differences that this guy's on about![]()
https://youtu.be/C3yBqK9VdPc
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw anyone elso notice these differences that this guy's on about![]()
https://youtu.be/C3yBqK9VdPc
Stuartmaximus wrote:Btw anyone elso notice these differences that this guy's on about![]()
https://youtu.be/C3yBqK9VdPc
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