The Energon Pub

[Bronzewolf]

What is this movie even anymore?!


I'm assuming at this point time travel HAS to be a thing. I know people have been claiming that forever, but I just don't see how Merlin, Nazis, and alien space robots disguised as police cars could otherwise fit together.

I disagree. I think it'll play out like the beginning of the first National Treasure movie, where a treasure or artifact goes through the hands of many legendary groups. It's something created by the transformers, that the Arthurians were protecting. Fast forward a few hundred years, and The Nazi's seized it during an attack on england, and then it goes on from there. Time travel's a possibility, too.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Is it too much to ask for Hasbro to include a lil Freya figurine with a TLK Transformers figure?

Yes Please

[MemphisR56]

I came here to submit this news!

I think it's sort of in poor taste, but you have to wonder which twat at blenheim signed off on the idea.

In a major case of terrible luck, Churchill has been added to the new plastic £5 notes, which entered circulation for the first time this month, so Churchill's legacy has been particularly high profile of late.

Paramount really screwed the pooch on this one. And it's a shame people will level criticism at hasbro and the transformers brand as a result. PR nightmare even though they had nothing to do with it.

[Madeus Prime]

Bay: "Hey you know what'd be a good idea?"

Location scout: "Um...what?"

Bay: "I want to film part of the pointless flashback sequence in Nazi headquarters in Germany!"

Location scout: "Certainly Mr. Bay, I'll get on the phone with our people to find a place in Germany."

Bay: "Nah, don't worry, I found a nice mansion here."

Location scout: "Huh? Where? Like one of those hidden gem manor houses-?"

Bay: "What? No, I found this cool place called Blenheim Palace, it's famous!"

Location scout: "...You want to film what was the center of one of the most horrifying events in history in the home of the man who directed almost every effort against it and is still considered a heroic figure in history?!"

Bay: "Yeah! Why? Is that a problem?

Location scout:

[Randomhero]

How about everyone stop reminding us they need to be offended by everything and take a moment to use some common sense. To shoot there, multiple meetings were had to shoot there, the script had to be read and approved thoroughly. It wasn't just Bay saying "yeah let's just do it" That's no how that works.

[Megatron Wolf]

We all knew bay was a douchebag this just solidifies it, the man has no respect for anything. Hes turned the franchise into a joke and now this

[Bumblevivisector]

This would be most justifiable if this movie's macguffix has the ability to create or enable travel between alternate realities, and this is the establishing shot for the Transformers-meet-the-Man-in-the-High-Castle universe where the Nazis won the war, but from what little we know about the plot, that doesn't seem likely.

The saddest part is that on the off chance this turns out to be the movie Bay finally knocks out of the park in terms of storytelling and characterization, it could end up tainted by the tastelessness of this scene in public memory, and Paramount and Hasbro will forbid him from replicating anything he does well here for TF6.

[Big Grim]

It takes a hell of a lot to offend me. This is not offensive but is in poor taste and a case of blind stupidity.

[Tyrannacon]

What the heck is going on in this film?

[JazZeke]

I just wanna add; between Bumblebee pissing, Devastator's balls and now this, Bay has a knack for making me feel embarrassed to be a Transformers fan.

[Randomhero]

I just wanna add; between Bumblebee pissing, Devastator's balls and now this, Bay has a knack for making me feel embarrassed to be a Transformers fan.

Yes it must be very difficult for you to tell people you're a transformers fan and they say "oh the movie that came out 10 years ago with the yellow robot that pees on someone for 3 seconds in a 2 hour long movie?" How do you get up in the morning with that much shame in your life?

[Carnivius_Prime]

I just wanna add; between Bumblebee pissing, Devastator's balls and now this, Bay has a knack for making me feel embarrassed to be a Transformers fan.

Animated made me embarrased to be a TF fan. Ok I wasn't the target audience but I tried giving it a go and that show made me cringe so badly til I had to give up on it and had nearly destroyed the renewed interested (apart from the very rare occassion of a cheap Armada, Energon, CYbertron figure purchase I hadn't had much interest in the franchise since the end of the G2 comic) I'd gained in Transformers from the classics line bringing back old faves and the 2007 movie finally giving me the more realistic and complex designs I had wanted since I was a kid. And Kissplayers embarrased me, not that I had any interest in it but somebody had posted about it to my mum on facebook and she seemed freaked out that she had ever bought me Transformers when I was a kid assuming that the entire line was that.

I'm pretty curious as to what the heck's going on here. Looking forward to it and it's toyline.

[Insurgent]

Of all the castles and all the mansions in this country to choose, they picked that one? Probably the only one I have an issue with them doing that with?

[Evil Eye]

I'm not OFFENDED by it as much as bamboozled. I mean, of all the places they thought would make a good Nazi base...Churchill's home? Doesn't seem poor taste so much as a weird decision. I mean there's plenty of places in the UK that would make a good "evil Nazi fortress". We've got thousands of castles and houses after all. And heck, why not use somewhere in Germany itself?

Oh yeah, they've got their ridiculous laws against anything even remotely Nazi-esque regardless of context. Well, that wouldn't work but the point still stands.

[Microraptor]

I'm going to guess this is an alternate "bad" future. That, or the nazis had a base that looked like Churchill's house so they're using it. I'm not offended or anything, I'm just trying to figure out what the deal is.

[Deadput]

You people are so damn sensitive why do you even care?


I bet most of you don't even have a personal connection to this and are just complaining because it's not what you want.

[Kurona]

You people are so damn sensitive why do you even care?


I bet most of you don't even have a personal connection to this and are just complaining because it's not what you want.

I certainly don't want Bay draping Nazi symbols over the home of the man who lead Britain against the Nazis during the war, no. Can't say it's something I particularly want.

[Insurgent]

You people are so damn sensitive why do you even care?


I bet most of you don't even have a personal connection to this and are just complaining because it's not what you want.

Because it would be like going to Martin Luthor King Jr's home and dressing that up as the HQ of the KKK for a film. There's being oversensitive, and then there's respecting history. Any other castle or mansion and I wouldn't care.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not throwing a hissy fit over this. I just think this is the one building in the UK that shouldn't be done up like Nazi HQ.

[Stuartmaximus]

Sooo! could we be getting a Hearts Of Steel style Seeker then

& haven't we had mini dinobots already?(well....at least where the Bayformer toyline is concerned)

[Kurona]

Sooo! could we be getting a Hearts Of Steel style Seeker then

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But... but that's a tank...

[Dr. Caelus]

It would be silly to choose a national landmark to make a Nazi HQ for a flashback.

But it makes PERFECT sense for an alternate reality created by time travel shenanigans.

Seems likely that they did it for the same reason an artist sat down and did this. It's supposed to frighten and anger you. If you're offended by the idea of Nazi flags hanging from the eves of a national treasure, raise a glass to Churchill and his fellows for preventing that from transpiring in reality.

Sooo! could we be getting a Hearts Of Steel style Seeker then

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But... but that's a tank...

And WWII would be several decades after Hearts of Steel...

[Stuartmaximus]

It would be silly to choose a national landmark to make a Nazi HQ for a flashback.

But it makes PERFECT sense for an alternate reality created by time travel shenanigans.

Seems likely that they did it for the same reason an artist sat down and did this. It's supposed to frighten and anger you. If you're offended by the idea of Nazi flags hanging from the eves of a national treasure, raise a glass to Churchill and his fellows for preventing that from transpiring in reality.

Sooo! could we be getting a Hearts Of Steel style Seeker then

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But... but that's a tank...

And WWII would be several decades after Hearts of Steel...

Erm....it's a WWI tank! not II

[Kurona]

Point being, why would a seeker be a tank? That's like, the most un-seeker like alt-mode ever. The shattered glass seekers being cars makes more sense than tanks.

[Ultimate Weapon1]

Ummm whaaaaaaaaa?

[RSC]

If there's time travel, then there's the possibility of the timeline being screwed up. It's not like Churchill was killed by Nazis or anything. I'm sure there will be plenty of other terrible things in the movie like dialogue and acting and transformers that don't transform in any plausible way...