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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed May 10, 2017 9:10 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:so does this movie negate everything the first movie was about becuase we saw them come to earth in a meteor like form and we see them as there cybertronian pre earth form like they just arrived
this movie stating they have been here forever :BANG_HEAD:

They don't literately mean all the Autobots have been here forever their referring that Cybertronians as a species have.

They probably also mean "forever" loosely but ROTF has already astablished that the Transformers have been here for a long long time.

But really we should stop coming to conclusions and wait for the movie since stuff like this is to get us thinking and make us want to watch the movie to find out.

Edit: I remember now that DOTM shows that Soundwave and Laserbeak (Presumably Ravage too) have been on Earth for awhile at least long enough that they got Dylan Gould's dad to shut the space race projects down.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed May 10, 2017 9:26 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:This is the first time I've been impressed by something related to Bumblebee. Actually, it might be the second time, but I forgot what the first time was.
Just Movie Bumblebee specifically, or Bumblebee in general?


Mainly movie Bumblebee. But I've never cared about any other Bumblebee either, so I'll say Bumblebee in general.
What about when Prime Bumblebee impaled Megatron through the chest with the Star Saber in the final Prime episode?


I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Has it been said how long TLK will be? AoE was almost 3 hours. I hope they trim this one down to around 2 hours to 2 hours 15 minutes.


I hope it's at LEAST 3 and a half hours. Bigger is always better.
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Cheesus Crust no most people can't handle movies that long.

At that point make it a two parter like Harry Potter and Hunger Games.


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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed May 10, 2017 9:37 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote: I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.

Your entire life? It's a tv show man no reason to get angry being disappointed is fine but wanting to destroy personal objects because of a show's outcome is not exactly something anyone should do.

SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not "most people."


Yeah but most people is most people and therefore outnumber a vocal minority, one of the biggest complaints in AOE was that it was too long and I want to show my family something they can stay awake to since if it's longer then two hours they fall asleep like My mum fell asleep during Rogue one for example.

Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

This is a example of a thing people should not take fans advice on because fact is fans don't know exactly what they want from a movie and even if the filmmakers did there's too many different opinions to make every one satisfied which is why filmmakers go the simpler routes for movies.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed May 10, 2017 10:43 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote: I thought that was the stupidest **** I had ever seen in my entire life. I was ready to throw a remote at the TV.

Your entire life? It's a tv show man no reason to get angry being disappointed is fine but wanting to destroy personal objects because of a show's outcome is not exactly something anyone should do.


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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed May 10, 2017 11:09 pm

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I've destroyed plenty of things for much less.

Of course you have Sly.

Don't stop being you pal.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu May 11, 2017 4:08 am

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Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

Isn't that what he said right before he revealed he was the bad guy and killed Ironhide?
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby EvasionModeBumblebee » Thu May 11, 2017 5:28 am

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Remember what Sentinel said "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few"

Isn't that what he said right before he revealed he was the bad guy and killed Ironhide?

Nope, he said that right before activating the space bridge pillars in Chicago. His line before killing Ironhide was "For the sake of our planet's survival, a deal had to be made. . . With Megatron."
I just rewatched DOTM yesterday, so it's fresh in my mind xD
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Barricade.it » Thu May 11, 2017 8:39 am

We exactly know when Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz came on Earth: it's shown on the first movie.

We also know how Megatron came on Earth: it's in the first movie too.

So, We must admit that this is a reboot, a very inconsistent reboot. And it's inconsistent not only with the first trilogy, but even with the last movie: the link between AoE and TLK seeme to be very forced.

No link and no consistency with the first trilogy at all.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 11, 2017 8:44 am

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Barricade.it wrote:We exactly know when Optimus, Ironhide, Ratchet and Jazz came on Earth: it's shown on the first movie.

We also know how Megatron came on Earth: it's in the first movie too.

So, We must admit that this is a reboot, a very inconsistent reboot. And it's inconsistent not only with the first trilogy, but even with the last movie: the link between AoE and TLK seeme to be very forced.

No link and no consistency with the first trilogy at all.
Or, all these images are merely for marketing purposes only, recycling preexisting character models for economical reasons, and should instead be taken metaphorically (as in to say that there were TFs present for historical events such as these but not specifically the exact same TFs shown in each image) rather than literally.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu May 11, 2017 11:45 am

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So far the only ones shown that actually breaks continuity is Megatron and Ironhide but there could be excuses while a stretch could be ok. (Unlikely to be true this is just speculation and guessing on my part after waking up in the morning)

For Megatron who says his entire time on Earth before 2007 has been while frozen? We only heard this from Optimus and I think Sector 7 so either of those two could be a little wrong so maybe Megatron roamed around for a little before freezing in the ice during say a search for the Allspark.

Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

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to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?

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As for Ironhide it is never stated that 2007 was his or any of the others first time on Earth while it doesn't exactly make sense for now it's only Ironhide there so perhaps only he arrived on Earth before and then at some point left somehow maybe he met up with Prime, Jazz, and Ratchet and told them about Earth and where it was.

If their bringing Ironhide on Earth early I actually sort of hope they would bring Jazz too since a prequel film could really help him with becoming more of a character.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu May 11, 2017 11:50 am

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Now that's a 3d shot if I've ever seen one. :michaelbay:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu May 11, 2017 12:22 pm

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Let me fix that for you:

New angle of the same image we have now seen several times of Megatron.
The article is more interesting than the image.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 11, 2017 12:31 pm

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Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu May 11, 2017 12:52 pm

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Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.


I remember there was an S7 comic but I never read it heck I never knew it existed until around 2014

But they refroze Megatron while he was standing in a static pose?

I used to see the comics as canon until the filmmakers said they were not so I just accepted them as alternate universes.

I'm pretty sure AOE, TLK, and the Bee movie are going to render most of the comics non canon heck the 2007 characters (both bot and con) being around already makes some of it non canon.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu May 11, 2017 12:56 pm

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I think all this talk about reboots and ignoring the previous movies is... really picky.

I mean, one, as many people pointed out; these are simply for advertisement and promotional purposes. It's... you can't really say this is a continuity error if it's not something directly in the movie itself. This sort of thing is pulled for symbolism and such all the time in advertising. Maybe it IS accurate to what happened in the continuity TLK will represent, but we don't know that yet. Wait for the movie to call fowl on it.

Second, if this advertisement is accurate and they're changing continuity... cool, whatever. These aren't plot-heavy movies, guys. Even Bay himself said that ROTF was too over-complicated or something and they should steer away from that to focusing on the action. If anything retconning stuff like this could lead to a better experience. Bring on a reboot.

Third... you don't have to reach that far to say these movies are bad. I mean, I don't like them myself; but I'm not going to immediately point at something like this and say these are why the movies suck. Criticise the plot, the action, the characterisation, anything - these aren't fantastic movies; if you want to find something to criticise, you will not have a hard time. But if you just jump on whatever tiny piece of advertising comes out and say this is why the movie is going to suck or this is the reason Bayformers is trash, your argument doesn't look that strong. All it does is make you look incredibly nitpicky.

This is just something cute and fun for the fans. Just let 'em have this without being told their passion is awful for every little thing.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu May 11, 2017 1:04 pm

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This honestly reminds me of the Sector 7 ARG that also as far as I know wasn't canon.

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 11, 2017 1:05 pm

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Deadput wrote:Sort of unreleated but how did Sector 7 get Megatron from this...

to this without Megatron unthawing enough for him to kill them all and escape?
Well, there was an answer given in something previously, but it's something you don't see as relevant anymore, so... yeah.


I remember there was an S7 comic but I never read it heck I never knew it existed until around 2014

But they refroze Megatron while he was standing in a static pose?
No, not the Sector 7 comics. While the discovery of Megatron in the Arctic by Sector Seven (following Archibald Witwicky's original discovery of Megatron) was covered by both those comics and the Movie Prequel comics, it was the Ghosts of Yesterday novel that went into the specifics of how Sector 7 actually transferred Megatron from the Arctic to Hoover Dam. Let's just say it involved a military convoy, an attack by the Soviets, and a while lotta liquid nitrogen.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Thu May 11, 2017 1:40 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:No, not the Sector 7 comics. While the discovery of Megatron in the Arctic by Sector Seven (following Archibald Witwicky's original discovery of Megatron) was covered by both those comics and the Movie Prequel comics, it was the Ghosts of Yesterday novel that went into the specifics of how Sector 7 actually transferred Megatron from the Arctic to Hoover Dam. Let's just say it involved a military convoy, an attack by the Soviets, and a while lotta liquid nitrogen.

Ah yes it was a book then I never read Ghosts of Yesterday either it's the only live action film novel I have not read.

Not to far off then since a comic is kinda like a book.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Thu May 11, 2017 3:35 pm

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We've got a new screencap of Megatron in The Last Knight thanks to the Hollywood Reporter. The image itself depicts Megatron (with his mighty axe-sword of doom) and Captain Lennox, a similar scene to some of the past trailers. However those trailers haven't shown the scene with this much detail and color. Check it out below!

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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby BERSEKAEL » Thu May 11, 2017 5:22 pm

:POPCORN: I can't wait for this movie!
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 » Thu May 11, 2017 5:48 pm

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Man, he looks like he was about to be slaughtered, judging from the imprint the axe left on the concrete :BOOM:
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Thu May 11, 2017 8:11 pm

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I still think this could be Megatron's "Coming to Primus" moment, and that he somehow becomes the "Last Knight" in this darkest of hours. A redemption story to bring this Megatron more in line with IDW Megatron, whether he wants to or not, but because of a time of great need. Could be awesome if done right, or it could be terrible if no character development.

Or Megatron's about to kill Lennox. Your pick.

However, the whole "Reveal Your Shield" campaign that goes back to the basics of Autobots versus Decepticons seems to conflict with this theory I've had since the first trailer that showed this scene was revealed. Only 6 weeks to go!
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu May 11, 2017 8:25 pm

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I highly doubt they'd want to bring this Megatron close to his IDW counterpart in the slightest. Honestly, if anything, they're as opposite characters as can be...

This is more like that scene in countless movies where the protagonists realise that the threat is so big they need to recruit the previous villain to take 'em down. Happens all the time, there's no reason shown so far to believe Megatron is going to be a good guy in any capacity.
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Re: Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Thu May 11, 2017 9:53 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I still think this could be Megatron's "Coming to Primus" moment, and that he somehow becomes the "Last Knight" in this darkest of hours. A redemption story to bring this Megatron more in line with IDW Megatron, whether he wants to or not, but because of a time of great need. Could be awesome if done right, or it could be terrible if no character development.
I'm going with this. Looks like a kneel down to me more than a swing. Also note the giant Transformer like shadows being cast from behind Lennox.
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