The Energon Pub

[RAR]

Use of licensed car modes increases the costs - but yeah there is a limit to what people will pay for a typical vanilla Deluxe like Slash when they can look up and see a leader that is several times the size and only a bit more than double the price.

Not to mention the average price of AOE deluxe Dinobot on eBay is about $7.00

[william-james88]

Use of licensed car modes increases the costs - but yeah there is a limit to what people will pay for a typical vanilla Deluxe like Slash when they can look up and see a leader that is several times the size and only a bit more than double the price.

Not to mention the average price of AOE deluxe Dinobot on eBay is about $7.00

Even when Scorn is part of that average?

[Va'al]

Along with the images we have seen in the past week, Vietnam-based YouTube user Danh Le has shared two clips featuring the Premier edition deluxes Bumblebee, Berserker and Barricade from the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight live-action movie toyline! You can check them both out below with some commentary from Danh, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub.

[Ultra Markus]

berserker looks like crankcase only taller

[dragons]

I take this as video review I don't need know articulation waste of space in video review figures don't have waist movement but legs neck and arms do move and wrist movement

[Stuartmaximus]

I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

The story said Vietnam-based, which is where they're produced nowadays.

[william-james88]

I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

Same as always, they have an in at the factory. Its been happening for as long as I have been a fan. They usually risk it for higher profile figures, like this first wave of movie line figures. Dont know if they will do it for trypticon too. I know your eager, and I hope you get that fix the soonest possible. Cheers!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Remember when we announced that Hasbro Toy Shop had that Last Knight Optimus Prime voice-changing helmet? Well, it appears that the helmet is now starting to show up online at other retailers. Toys R Us has now listed the helmet as "in stock" on their website, meaning that the helmet is now hitting major retailers.

If this helmet is something that interests you, you can head on over to Toys R Us or Hasbro Toy Shop and order yours today! The price on Toys R Us is $79.99 as well, meaning this is the normal retail price for the helmet. Order up, and let us know if you plan to buy one in the comments section below. And as always, stay tuned to Seibertron.com for all your latest Transformers News and Galleries!

[Lunatic Prime]

Barricade's forearms are different from what we've seen in the pictures before.

[Stuartmaximus]

I still want to know how the hell he got a hold of those figures early in order to do a video review of them? & can he get a hold of Titans Return Trypticon early? or even this Planet Cybertron thingymajig?

Same as always, they have an in at the factory. Its been happening for as long as I have been a fan. They usually risk it for higher profile figures, like this first wave of movie line figures. Dont know if they will do it for trypticon too. I know your eager, and I hope you get that fix the soonest possible. Cheers!

Yeah i think we're all eager pal + the fix won't come til NY toyfair, coz it certainly won't come at Nuremberg like you previously stated, but i still think that SOMETHING will be leaked out of Nuremberg! now...not necessarily transformers! but something.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

I'm starting to think more and more that the deluxe Bumblebee we've seen isn't supposed to represent the version we've seen in the trailers and in filming. The Camaro we've seen for most of Bumblebee's scenes so far has a black roof that continues onto the trunk lid, something this deluxe Bumblebee is noticeably missing. I know paint apps are becoming more minimal, but I don't think hasbro would leave that out. Maybe just wishful thinking, but I think Bumblebee may have a bit of a different look at the beginning of the movie that this figure is based on.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

We know for sure that Bee will look different in the movie. He goes back to his more Movie 3 design with the car door wings and the front of the camaro as the chest, so re-releasing this thing except worse is really strange

[william-james88]

I'm starting to think more and more that the deluxe Bumblebee we've seen isn't supposed to represent the version we've seen in the trailers and in filming. The Camaro we've seen for most of Bumblebee's scenes so far has a black roof that continues onto the trunk lid, something this deluxe Bumblebee is noticeably missing. I know paint apps are becoming more minimal, but I don't think hasbro would leave that out. Maybe just wishful thinking, but I think Bumblebee may have a bit of a different look at the beginning of the movie that this figure is based on.

I think they will do th same they did for evasion mode prime, with BB having 2 forms in the film. One early one similar to his AOE form (hence why they rerelease the same toy) and then he will change into looking like what we see in the trailer and we will have a new toy for that too. So this rerelease of bumblebee might as well be called evasion mode bumblebee

[william-james88]

By the way guys, an insider posted that regarding the Nuremberg fair, Hasbro has security super tight and not only should we expect no images, but it requires extra access to even get into the hasbro booth even if one is already invited to the show. So we wont be getting any reactions or descriptions either. The only thing we know is that they revealed all the movie toys they have to show. But we knew we would see these at Toyfair anyways.

[william-james88]

There will probably be no news coming from the Nuremberg Toy Fair due to Hasbro's beefed up security but we do have a new detail coming from Portugal since details regarding their offering of The Last Knight products were sent out today. TFW2005 member fallen_revenge translated the details that reveal a new class we had not heard of before: Armor Up Changers. These are the equivalent of three step toys which will have a battle mask gimick. No new images were revealed, that will have to wait until toy fair, in two weeks.

The same news also stated that Portugal will only be getting 6 deluxes instead of the scheduled 12 deluxes already listed in North America. One other detail of note is that their offerings include 0 leader class figures as part of the main line. This was originally speculated due to the absense of that class in the listings found on Amazon. We do know we are getting a redeco of AOE Leader Prime but it seems to not be part of the main line, same with the Masterpiece Movie toys.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Emerje]

Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I guess that depends on how you define counting. The new Premier molds will most certainly be in the same style as the rest of the new figures in the line, but the packaging for the main line will probably be closer to the traditional stuff. I'm thinking we'll see the Deluxe Premier stuff officially announced just before Toy Fair (on Facebook or a random online magazine as they've done in the past) with the real line being previewed at the show.

What I want to know is if they'll still release Barricade in the main line? There's nothing particularly exceptional about his paint, articulation, or transformation from what we can see. Doesn't seem like it would be the same case as Prime First Edition versus the simpler main line. Since the Premier line will probably cost more it would be nice to have a cheaper alternative.

Emerje

[OptimalOptimus2]

No leader class? I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?

[Galva Prime]

To those wondering about the Premier Editions, this is just the new name for Movie Generations, now that the Generations Prime Wars line will continue concurrently with the movie figures. People are misreading 'Premier' as 'premiere' and assuming they're a kind of first edition. There are listing for figures using code names of Amazon.com that are labelled 'Gen', but on Amazon.ca the same listings are labelled 'Pre'. Also when Shadow Spark Optimus and MPM Bumblebee were revealed at the event in Hong Kong the Hasbro marketing rep stated that Premier Edition is the 'movie accurate' line.

[william-james88]

Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

They count, for sure. That first wave we found matches up with the listings of the mainline we found on amazon a month ago, with the first wave being 4 characters where one is Bumblebee.

I have no clue why they have to bother with the edition conotation, especially sicne the paint isnt premium and the name reffers more to the fact that these are released first instead of how they have superior quality.

No leader class? I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?

Maye they saw that the leader class doesnt sell too well and chose to instead concentrate on items that sold better and have better margins.

[Galva Prime]

No leader class? I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?

There will be Leader figures. Shadow Spark Optimus is Asia exclusive, but from previous info http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/the-last-knight-figure-listings.1096474/page-4#post-14238517, there will be others. No idea if they'll be exclusives or repaints only. Remember, this is info regarding Portugal only. On Amazon there are 12 deluxes and 6 Voyagers listed, so already more than's described here.

[Galva Prime]

Could it be possible that the Premier Editions do not count towards the main line? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

They count, for sure. That first wave we found matches up with the listings of the mainline we found on amazon a month ago, with the first wave being 4 characters where one is Bumblebee.

I have no clue why they have to bother with the edition conotation, especially sicne the paint isnt premium and the name reffers more to the fact that these are released first instead of how they have superior quality.

No leader class? I wonder why. Is it because Hasbro has placed budget cuts for the TLK toylike, or because Hasbro has placed most of its budget on role-playing helmets and simple One-Step and Three-Step Changers?

Maye they saw that the leader class doesnt sell too well and chose to instead concentrate on items that sold better and have better margins.

See my previous comment re it being Premier and not Premiere, and how it's the replacement for Movie Generations. Yeah, they're definitely not Platinum Edition quality but I'm guessing the label is used to distinguish the 'traditional' line from the simpler figures and encourage collectors.

[RAR]

Definition of premier
1 : first in position, rank, or importance
2 : first in time : earliest

Definition of premiere
: premier
Origin and Etymology of premiere
alteration of 'premier'

(from websters online dictionary)

So what distinction are we trying to draw here if the word means "First" that is all I can really infer from it.

As has been previously implied there is nothing about these $20.00 deluxes that screams platinium or premium quality here. they seem to simply be out first.

I suppose someone could be using the word due to the movie connotation of film premieres

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But i'm still not sure if the first 4 or 6 deluxes will be boxed then they will change to carded toys - or if the whole line looks like this.

I'll tell you right now i'm not buying that repaint Bumblebee for £15.00 let alone for £20.00 I'm happy to buy a darker toned Slash or The dread or barry for £12.00 to £15.00 if I'm feeling the need to buy something in a few months.

But frankly It would be a better use of my money to spend that money on Takara movie toys. (especially Starscream and Ratchet) not to mention a lot is happening soon in 3rd party and premium-KO's that are a better bang for my buck.

But i'm fond of barry so I'll likely get him as soon as is reasonable.

I do wish they'd reissued dlx Soundwave though as he's a tricky fella to get in deluxe from - I can understand why they'd not do Dlx leadfoot due to expense of renewing the NASCAR licence - and he is supposed to be getting KO'd soon anyway in his unreleased sponsored deco to boot- so that is less of an issue.

[william-james88]

I dont even know why anyone would buy that bumblebee if they already have a previous BB using the ROTF design since that is basically what this one is going back to.