The Energon Pub

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:59 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:if the mechanics are anything like Energon Omega then it's a foregone conclusion how Sentinel is gonna work

You can presume how the transformation works in the new pictures from Toy Fair. I'm just wondering what the things on the left and right side beside his head are for?

At Toy Fair they forgot to extend them:

Looks like the CG model was mistransformed.

Maybe, but I think he looks cooler with those things extended.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:01 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:The CW Deluxes couldn't be so complex because of their gimmick.

Wheelie and Blurr have to fit Titanmasters in their chests (which would take up equal or more space than a Combiner peg), yet still manage that.

But they are not Quadruplechangers like the CW Deluxes. >:oP

News Credits: 2 · by **Mr Skram** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:25 pm

I have plans for Chromedome. Gonna peg a couple Constructbot wheels in his shoulders! Tried it with Dead End but his ports arent as centered as Dome's so it doesnt look right.

by **RodimusRex** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:32 pm

william-james88 wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:So... Is the speculation that the rumored Laser Prime will use Sentinel's head or perhaps be a major Sentinel retool?

Yeah, thats just speculation. John Warden said Titans Return will have a lot less retools and redecos than CW, and they will only be used when they make sense. So I wouldnt expect another use of that mold aside from Astrotrain. The Lazer Prime is rumoured to be a new mold.

I'm more baffled what it means for Optimus and Megatron to be Headmasters who are NOT part of the line.

CW Galvatronus/Cyclonus had no fictional support outside of his bio but WAS part of the line.

I am hoping if the rumor pans out that the Megatron is either G2 Megs or, if it's a retool, Gator Megs who could still kind of work as an adversary for Laser Prime since the main fictional use of him was as a theoretically post-G2 Megs back before BW canon was established.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:36 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:The CW Deluxes couldn't be so complex because of their gimmick.

Wheelie and Blurr have to fit Titanmasters in their chests (which would take up equal or more space than a Combiner peg), yet still manage that.

But they are not Quadruplechangers like the CW Deluxes.

AKA, robot mode, sideways robot mode, vehicle mode, and slightly-altered vehicle mode. >:oP

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:44 pm

RodimusRex wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:So... Is the speculation that the rumored Laser Prime will use Sentinel's head or perhaps be a major Sentinel retool?

Yeah, thats just speculation. John Warden said Titans Return will have a lot less retools and redecos than CW, and they will only be used when they make sense. So I wouldnt expect another use of that mold aside from Astrotrain. The Lazer Prime is rumoured to be a new mold.

I'm more baffled what it means for Optimus and Megatron to be Headmasters who are NOT part of the line.

CW Galvatronus/Cyclonus had no fictional support outside of his bio but WAS part of the line.

I am hoping if the rumor pans out that the Megatron is either G2 Megs or, if it's a retool, Gator Megs who could still kind of work as an adversary for Laser Prime since the main fictional use of him was as a theoretically post-G2 Megs back before BW canon was established.

The rumor states that megs will be sporting his g1 colors and they're not totally sure of his alt mode but it looks like he has tank kibble.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:47 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:The CW Deluxes couldn't be so complex because of their gimmick.

Wheelie and Blurr have to fit Titanmasters in their chests (which would take up equal or more space than a Combiner peg), yet still manage that.

But they are not Quadruplechangers like the CW Deluxes.

AKA, robot mode, sideways robot mode, vehicle mode, and slightly-altered vehicle mode.

Yeah, but for example most of them have stiff feet to plug the hand-foot-gun in there. So there you lose some steps.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:48 pm

A thought about the whole Tanker Prime and Tank Megs thing. It was stated that they were Voyagers, and as we all know, all Voyager Headmasters are triple changers. You know what other triple changers have tanker trucks and tanks as alt-modes? Blitzwing and Octane.

News Credits: 3 · by **Collector Canine** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:49 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:if the mechanics are anything like Energon Omega then it's a foregone conclusion how Sentinel is gonna work

The mehcanics are nothing similar, he's not a spaceship and a train that combine. You can see in his train mode that one of his feet forms his front and the other forms his back.

aye your right, my mistake, his train section forms his bottom half, while the spaceship part forms his top half, hmmmm interesting

but! it's still the mechanic of connecting two halves together! but just done in a different way to that of Energon Omega

I don't understand what you're saying. Sentinal Prime is not two separate components that combine into the body. He's a triple changer, like all the other Voyagers and Leaders. Can't you see the shuttle's wings on the side of the train? Even if that's not what you meant, your wording is at least weird.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:A thought about the whole Tanker Prime and Tank Megs thing. It was stated that they were Voyagers, and as we all know, all Voyager Headmasters are triple changers. You know what other triple changers have tanker trucks and tanks as alt-modes? Blitzwing and Octane.

I don't know if that theme will carry over because they say that prime and Megatron will not be part of titans return but instead the third leg of prime wars. However a new octane appeals to me greatly.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:51 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:A thought about the whole Tanker Prime and Tank Megs thing. It was stated that they were Voyagers, and as we all know, all Voyager Headmasters are triple changers. You know what other triple changers have tanker trucks and tanks as alt-modes? Blitzwing and Octane.

Really good combined Watson ;)^

*not ironically*

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:51 pm

I doubt it somewhat, only main line titan returns voyagers are triple changers, I think megs and optimus don't fall into that bracket. Also there is no decepticon called octane now ;-)

News Credits: 4857 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:57 pm

RodimusRex wrote:I'm more baffled what it means for Optimus and Megatron to be Headmasters who are NOT part of the line.

CW Galvatronus/Cyclonus had no fictional support outside of his bio but WAS part of the line.

I am hoping if the rumor pans out that the Megatron is either G2 Megs or, if it's a retool, Gator Megs who could still kind of work as an adversary for Laser Prime since the main fictional use of him was as a theoretically post-G2 Megs back before BW canon was established.

None of this has been confirmed yet. To me, this is all speculation.

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:05 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:if the mechanics are anything like Energon Omega then it's a foregone conclusion how Sentinel is gonna work

You can presume how the transformation works in the new pictures from Toy Fair. I'm just wondering what the things on the left and right side beside his head are for?
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At Toy Fair they forgot to extend them:

Looks like the CG model was mistransformed.

Maybe, but I think he looks cooler with those things extended.

Btw look at his split crotch! MAN that's gotta hurt!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:09 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:A thought about the whole Tanker Prime and Tank Megs thing. It was stated that they were Voyagers, and as we all know, all Voyager Headmasters are triple changers. You know what other triple changers have tanker trucks and tanks as alt-modes? Blitzwing and Octane.

I think I could do without Blitzwing (unless he greatly improves over the Voyager from 2013 which wouldn't be too hard I don't think), but man do I need a new Octane. The 2008 Deluxe just hasn't aged well.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:09 pm

Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:The CW Deluxes couldn't be so complex because of their gimmick.

Wheelie and Blurr have to fit Titanmasters in their chests (which would take up equal or more space than a Combiner peg), yet still manage that.

But they are not Quadruplechangers like the CW Deluxes.

AKA, robot mode, sideways robot mode, vehicle mode, and slightly-altered vehicle mode.

Yeah, but for example most of them have stiff feet to plug the hand-foot-gun in there. So there you lose some steps.

Out of the ten molds in CW (including Blast Off and Groove), 5 have some sort of foot articulation. It is merely a design choice, not a necessity. With the Aerialbot molds (minus Bravo), Groove, and the Offroad mold, having the feet fold down would not make sense, given that the legs form the back of the vehicle. And the Dead End mold doesn't have any actual feet to begin with.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:11 pm

The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:13 pm

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

Yay, someone else likes Wheelie too! Everyone else seems to be all coo-coo! :-P

News Credits: 4857 · by **william-james88** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:15 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

Yay, someone else likes Wheelie too! Everyone else seems to be all coo-coo!

I dont get where you are coming from,everyone on this board has been praising Wheelie. I havent seen on person say something bad about that toy yet.

News Credits: 13 · by **steals_your_goats** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:16 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

Yay, someone else likes Wheelie too! Everyone else seems to be all coo-coo!

I like him too, I'm just trying to figure out how it takes 16 steps to transform him..

News Credits: 3 · by **Collector Canine** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:17 pm

SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

Yay, someone else likes Wheelie too! Everyone else seems to be all coo-coo!

I guess you guys haven't seen alll of my Titans Return Wheelie praise, then. I have been praising this thing over and over again since yesterday!

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:19 pm

forget all those triple changers & quad changers! bring in the SIX CHANGERS! Sixshot & Quickswitch

hopefully after the Hasbro release of Fort Max, Takara can start working on Grand Maximus!

News Credits: 3 · by **Collector Canine** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:21 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:forget all those triple changers & quad changers! bring in the SIX CHANGERS! Sixshot & Quickswitch

hopefully after the Hasbro release of Fort Max, Takara can start working on Grand Maximus!

Some sixchangers would be amazing!I doubt even Takara would bother making Grand Maximus and Brave Maximus. >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **DedicatedGhostArt** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:21 pm

william-james88 wrote:
SillySpringer wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The way they did Mindwipe was very clever. The wings being the legs was an awesome touch and adds some spirit to the character. Plus Wheelie being the star? Wow, I honestly did not see this coming, but ya know what? I like him too and am happy with his style

Yay, someone else likes Wheelie too! Everyone else seems to be all coo-coo!

I dont get where you are coming from,everyone on this board has been praising Wheelie. I havent seen on person say something bad about that toy yet.

I stand corrected! :shock:

It seems my joke has been deflected, which has become highly regretted by me since I am the stupid.

News Credits: 3 · by **Lunatic Prime** » Mon Feb 15, 2016 5:49 pm

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:
Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:
Lunatic Prime wrote:The CW Deluxes couldn't be so complex because of their gimmick.

Wheelie and Blurr have to fit Titanmasters in their chests (which would take up equal or more space than a Combiner peg), yet still manage that.

But they are not Quadruplechangers like the CW Deluxes.

AKA, robot mode, sideways robot mode, vehicle mode, and slightly-altered vehicle mode.

Yeah, but for example most of them have stiff feet to plug the hand-foot-gun in there. So there you lose some steps.

Out of the ten molds in CW (including Blast Off and Groove), 5 have some sort of foot articulation. It is merely a design choice, not a necessity. With the Aerialbot molds (minus Bravo), Groove, and the Offroad mold, having the feet fold down would not make sense, given that the legs form the back of the vehicle. And the Dead End mold doesn't have any actual feet to begin with.

They were just examples but Dead End is a really good example, too, because now Chromedome (who borrows Dead End's leg transformation) has articulated feet (and so more steps).