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Personally, I'm hoping Arcee's TM is Daniel Witwicky!

bodrock wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Arcee's TM is Daniel Witwicky!

bad news, Arcee is only a TM (according to rumours)

Will and I talked about this a bit, but my big thing with Sixshot is that he is nearly good. Like, he is sort of what I wished he was and hoped he would be, but in hand he falls short, and it makes me sad that someone getting his first toy in 30 years falls short. It's not that I don't like the figure, I'm just not bothered with him. Similar thing goes for Megatron. He is close to being good, but he falls sort of flat, which sucks cause I want to love him, but he's just not that good.

And the crappy stickers don't help either case in the slightest

Sabrblade wrote:"Best of" fifth season which featured new live action segments of Powermaster Optimus Prime telling stories of the previous Autobot/Decepticon adventures to the human boy Tommy Kennedy (said adventures being the episodes themselves).

Just didn't want anyone to think there is an actual "5th" season. I know TF wiki loves to play that game, but it truly is just a compilation of past episodes, and TF:TM cut into 5 parts, oh and Stan Bush's "The Touch" video. If you like new opening/ending wraps that's fine, otherwise, nothing to see here, much like G2, nothing new added.

william-james88 wrote:

bodrock wrote:Personally, I'm hoping Arcee's TM is Daniel Witwicky!

bad news, Arcee is only a TM (according to rumours)

I'd prefer the Windblade treatment for Arcee, but hope she's got an IDW face.

Despite her looking more like Blurr than Nautica does - It looks like they are skipping Arcee for the moment as a Deluxe.

If you want your Arcee fix there are plenty of 3rd party offering though. including the new Wei Jiang Overscale KO of the Generations one (with Metal parts) and a removable back pack that can also form a riot shield.

I don't mind the current one being a loudmouth repaint (for the vehicle) so long as they put some effort into the Titanmaster.

HOWEVER I have a feeling Hasbro are being sneaky and what they were asking with their poll wasn't "who do you want us to make" it was which one of these toys (that we plan to make anyway) do you want as the leader... they might look at the votes and decide some of the other roles too based on what got a lot of votes.

The problem is they may completely misunderstand WHY some people were voting fro Primal - (it's not even 100% clear to me) the only practical reason I can think to vote Primal

1) It's funny
2) They feel sorry for him
3) They want him to not be dead
4) They just got the masterpiece
5) They want to encourage Hasbro to make more Beasts
6) They want to encourage Hasbro to homage Beast Wars more

But what people's actual motives are I can't say. I would have considered Magnus over him and only out of pity and the hope they might overwrite that lamentable story that IDW gave him as a backstory a story that pretty much implies Magnus has been dead for Millions of years.

I kinda feel sorry for or a little angry with him usually depending on the version - usually it's pity though.

It's kinda not fair that he's dead, a di**head, or a failure depending on the version. But then Primal was a suicidal Hippy when he died so he could make the whole Autobot faction crash and burn in a rather spectacular way if he's still nuts.

Anyway my point is I wouldn't be at all surprised if the 2018 toyline includes : Arcee, Hound, Megtron, Optimus, Ultra Magnus, Victory Lio and so on.

Heck if they are clever they can make an Optimus... kill him off in the story - claim that Primal Takes over and bring some beasts in - then eventually bring Prime back as Victory Prime or Leo Prime and have him combine (aka Victory Lio) with Star Saber as like the critical strike weapon against the final villain.

But they were pretty specific that the choice was moulding the story not the toyline in a broader sense (as such).

Though what they'd have done if Arcee won - I have to wonder - kept her as a deluxe ?

Since Hasbro has said they don't want to gender toys I can see them trying to push Arcee to girls in 2017 - if they were clever they continue to do the same with Strongarm and Quickshadow too.

RAR wrote:
The problem is they may completely misunderstand WHY some people were voting fro Primal - (it's not even 100% clear to me) the only practical reason I can think to vote Primal

1) It's funny
2) They feel sorry for him
3) They want him to not be dead
4) They just got the masterpiece
5) They want to encourage Hasbro to make more Beasts
6) They want to encourage Hasbro to homage Beast Wars more

... or... you know... because they actually like the main character of arguably the best Transformers show to date.

Did it suddenly get cool to dislike Beast Wars again in the past couple of years? Did... did I miss a memo? I thought that sort of thing died in the late 90s with most fans warming up to it or at least respecting its popularity, quality and influence. Are we back to treating it as a joke again?

Personally, Kurona, my body is ready!

In case anyone wanted to see what the co-captains looked like with their heads on wrong

How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

william-james88 wrote:How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

Still early to give good opinions.

I actually think Twinferno is my favorite so far. But I will give more opinions once I mess with them some more. all 3 are pretty fun so far though, and I need to catch up on some pictures too

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

Still early to give good opinions.

I actually think Twinferno is my favorite so far. But I will give more opinions once I mess with them some more. all 3 are pretty fun so far though, and I need to catch up on some pictures too

You didnt get one of twinferno's beast mode arms explode onto your face then I assume.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

Still early to give good opinions.

I actually think Twinferno is my favorite so far. But I will give more opinions once I mess with them some more. all 3 are pretty fun so far though, and I need to catch up on some pictures too

You didnt get one of twinferno's beast mode arms explode onto your face then I assume.

Oh I did the first time. But since then it has been smooth sailing.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

Still early to give good opinions.

I actually think Twinferno is my favorite so far. But I will give more opinions once I mess with them some more. all 3 are pretty fun so far though, and I need to catch up on some pictures too

You didnt get one of twinferno's beast mode arms explode onto your face then I assume.

Oh I did the first time. But since then it has been smooth sailing.

Ok, glad to hear it. Another warning, one of those titan master pegs on his gun gave way and is now stuck in the foot hole of his titan master

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:How you liking that Hotrod? One of the best toys from TR so far?

Still early to give good opinions.

I actually think Twinferno is my favorite so far. But I will give more opinions once I mess with them some more. all 3 are pretty fun so far though, and I need to catch up on some pictures too

You didnt get one of twinferno's beast mode arms explode onto your face then I assume.

Oh I did the first time. But since then it has been smooth sailing.

Aside from the dreaded sideways elbow action, I'm actually really fond of Twinferno as well. Sure he can be difficult to pose in bot mode, beast mode is a little wonky and the transformation can be hard the first time or two, but aside from that I honestly have very few complaints about him. I think part of his charm for me is just how different he is from basically every other figure in the line (the only one that comes close to him in that aspect is probably Gnaw, whom I also adore).

Plus, if you play around with his guns right in beast mode, you can get a triple-Titan-Master artillery emplacement mounted on the back of a robotic two-headed monster. What's not to love?




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william-james88 wrote:Ok, glad to hear it. Another warning, one of those titan master pegs on his gun gave way and is now stuck in the foot hole of his titan master

Oh no, that doesn't sound fun at all! Haven't had that happen to me either, but thanks for the alert - it's always good to keep an eye on potential problem points.

RAR wrote:
The problem is they may completely misunderstand WHY some people were voting fro Primal - (it's not even 100% clear to me) the only practical reason I can think to vote Primal

1) It's funny
2) They feel sorry for him
3) They want him to not be dead
4) They just got the masterpiece
5) They want to encourage Hasbro to make more Beasts
6) They want to encourage Hasbro to homage Beast Wars more

But what people's actual motives are I can't say. I would have considered Magnus over him and only out of pity and the hope they might overwrite that lamentable story that IDW gave him as a backstory a story that pretty much implies Magnus has been dead for Millions of years.

This caught me off guard. I am a HUGE fan of the Beast Wars and I voted for him because I honestly loved the character and thought it would be cool if he was the Autobot leader, in fact I always wanted him to lead the Autobots (and he did when I played with my toys) in the cartoon at some point! Now don't get me wrong Rodimus is the leader of the Autobots as far as I am concerned lol. Ultra Magnus as the leader? I feel he wants it to much, thus far all the leaders (at least in G1 as I don't read the comics), have not wanted the job. Orion Pax, Hot Rod, so Magnus just feels wrong to me.

I don't dislike Beast Wars - I was just thinking it was a strange choice to have a tiny 'monkey' as the leader of a giant race or warrior robots.
It's like everyone taking orders from Hi Q it's just a bit odd (But then it was pretty odd to put Ginrai in charge of the Cybertrons too).

I will admit that I just can't see him fitting in - it was to me a non-sequitur like Arcee and Hound were too.

Arcee wasn't right as she lacks any leadership experience (unlike say Elita-1 - who you could make a good case for as she was a commando leader for millions of years - she's actually more experienced than any of the usual main cast - heck the fembots if they are still alive after fighting Shockwave and his pet seekers for that long - have to be outstanding warriors) but Arcee is more or less just some chick. it would make about as much sense as making Topspin, Pointblank, or Landmine Leader of the Autobots.

I could make a case for all kind of obscure choices Like Jetfire or Pyro or Thunderclash.

Giving such a role to Hound would be a bit peculiar (But then I think the same about Japan's version of Chromedome too) as Hound is to passive to be a leader.

As I mentioned before Magnus is either pathetic or crazy so I'd only want him in the role if they did it to redeem his reputation as not a looser or a sociopath or a di**head.

Star Saber would work just - fine - heck he could replace Optimus completely if he needed too - and I'd welcome a great deal having him wound into the western milieu above and beyond IDW comics.

But when I think of Primal - I just shrug and wonder how you can get that to work - unless he has a post-Beast Machines body that is a bit like Optimal Optimus - Optimal Optimus would make a pretty decent update as he has a suitable spot for a small character to ride inside so he might work ok with the line wide gimmick.

But bog standard Beast Wars 'Big Bot' or his Beast Machines form for me has a lot of issues in the midst of Guzzlers.

However since I do want some more beast Transformers I guess the furry religious extremist is a good foot in the door.

But it may be a version of him that has NOTHING to be with Beast Wars anyway as that version is a version that most of the rest of the Cybertronian race perhaps might want to hang upside down by his ankles and beat with Klingon Pain sticks for causing an environmental catastrophe on Cybertron.

I voted for the toys I wanted to see, continuity in all forms of media be damned.

And even though I didn't vote for Primal, I'm warming up to him and curious to see how they do it!

Just Bought Hot Rod and Twinferno after finding them which besides still missing Megatron completes wave 3 for my collection.

Their all great and fun to play with or to display but for me Hot Rod just feels so damn good in hand and like with Triggerhappy Hot Rod is one of two Transformers I have that I actually transform more then once or twice a day since their is something addicting to transforming these two.


Also Sixshot is bae in my opinion I love him especially with him towering over my other Cons except for Soundwave in his mech suit (How I justify the leader size for Soundwave)

Looking forward to feeding my addiction and purchasing the rest of Titans Return because you gotta get bankrupt somehow.

Deadput wrote:Just Bought Hot Rod and Twinferno after finding them which besides still missing Megatron completes wave 3 for my collection.

Their all great and fun to play with or to display but for me Hot Rod just feels so damn good in hand and like with Triggerhappy Hot Rod is one of two Transformers I have that I actually transform more then once or twice a day since their is something addicting to transforming these two.


Also Sixshot is bae in my opinion I love him especially with him towering over my other Cons except for Soundwave in his mech suit (How I justify the leader size for Soundwave)

Looking forward to feeding my addiction and purchasing the rest of Titans Return because you gotta get bankrupt somehow.

While I wish hotrod wasn't a headmaster, I absolutely love the mold, he's my second favorite figure to come from this line. (The first, of course, being Triggerhappy) I recommend him to anybody who's on the fence.

Also, that kid dancing on top of arcee's headless corpse is going to give me nightmares.

RAR wrote:I don't dislike Beast Wars - I was just thinking it was a strange choice to have a tiny 'monkey' as the leader of a giant race or warrior robots.

I'm preeeeeetty sure any new interpretation of the guy won't have him be human-sized. After all, his voting bio called him the King of Eukaris, and the Eukarians aren't tiny compared to most normal-sized Cybertronians.

RAR wrote:It's like everyone taking orders from Hi Q it's just a bit odd (But then it was pretty odd to put Ginrai in charge of the Cybertrons too).

Considering that 95% of the Cybertrons in Masterforce were all human in some form (either naturally or supernaturally), having a Human Transformer leading other Human Transformers doesn't sound that far of a stretch.

I just got Flywheels
now aiming for Battletrap
I'll be happy if he's a Titan Master and on a Copter changing to a Car vehicle for him , and just adding them for Overlord's "well-you-know" gimmick

One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

ebo716 wrote:

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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

But... there aren't any actual Decepticon Triple Changers in that scene.

Sabrblade wrote:

ebo716 wrote:

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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

But... there aren't any actual Decepticon Triple Changers in that scene.

I meant recreate that scene with the deception triple changers