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Re: Transformers Titans Return Product Reveals, News, Updates, Rumors, Leaks and more!

Postby LE0KING » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:26 pm

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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
Also why doesn't broadside look like broadside?
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RAR wrote:I don't dislike Beast Wars - I was just thinking it was a strange choice to have a tiny 'monkey' as the leader of a giant race or warrior robots.
I'm preeeeeetty sure any new interpretation of the guy won't have him be human-sized. After all, his voting bio called him the King of Eukaris, and the Eukarians aren't tiny compared to most normal-sized Cybertronians. ;)^


And even then it's hardly the first time he's been portrayed as the same size as regular transformers.
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It'll probably just be a Brawn repaint...

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Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:31 pm

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ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
Also why doesn't broadside look like broadside?

Broadside never had a consistent look at anytime, even in the cartoon.
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Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:33 pm

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RAR wrote:I don't dislike Beast Wars - I was just thinking it was a strange choice to have a tiny 'monkey' as the leader of a giant race or warrior robots.

Primal was created as an homage to King Kong, so I wouldnt consider him a tiny monkey ;)
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Postby LE0KING » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:35 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
Also why doesn't broadside look like broadside?

Broadside never had a consistent look at anytime, even in the cartoon.

Ah so the new broadside toy is 100% accurate then. ;)
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:44 pm

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ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
That's where he came from. The UK-original Marvel Comics.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Impactor_(G1)#Marvel_The_Transformers_comics
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Postby william-james88 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:45 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
Also why doesn't broadside look like broadside?

Broadside never had a consistent look at anytime, even in the cartoon.

Ah so the new broadside toy is 100% accurate then. ;)

:lol:
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Postby LE0KING » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:53 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
That's where he came from. The UK-original Marvel Comics.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Impactor_(G1)#Marvel_The_Transformers_comics

That's very cool, xxaron seems interesting too. So are these comics related to the 80s cartoon? As in are they enjoyable without having seen the G1 show? Also are they as corny and poorly written as the show?
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Re: Transformers Titans Return Product Reveals, News, Updates, Rumors, Leaks and more!

Postby william-james88 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:02 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
LE0KING wrote:
ebo716 wrote:
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One thing I think I will do when all of the deception triple changers come out is recreate this scene from target 2006

Woah woah woah, Impactor is in the old school comics? :shock:
That's where he came from. The UK-original Marvel Comics.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Impactor_(G1)#Marvel_The_Transformers_comics

That's very cool, xxaron seems interesting too. So are these comics related to the 80s cartoon? As in are they enjoyable without having seen the G1 show? Also are they as corny and poorly written as the show?

They are independent from the show and follow their own continuity. They are better written than the show but can get a bit boring simply because of the way comics were overly narrated back in the day (Chris Clairmont style). But if you are ok with that, then they are definitely worth a read.
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Postby william-james88 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:08 am

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Got myself a raincheck for the Speed set when it comes out at TRU:

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And those prices are in CDN dollars (which they better be because thats the currency I get paid with), but if we were to convert it to US, that means I will be paying $78 for that TR box set as soon as I see it :DANCE:
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:14 am

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Having messed with these 3 deluxes a good bit, I gotta say that I am loving all 3, but Twinferno is my favorite of the wave. The dragon mode just tickles my love of dragons so much and it is really cool! His robot mode is slamming too. I gotta say the only place I put the blasters is on his back. he never holds them or anything. His dragon hands are cool enough by a long shot!

Triggerhappy is all I had heard and wished he could be. Perfect figure, simply perfect, and I cannot wait to get it again as Metalhawk.

Hot Rod is good too, and I love his alt mode. The only thing I don't like are his arms. They aren't as posable as I'd like and I don't like his guns in any mode. I may need to give them to someone else, but who?

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Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:52 am

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Ha! First thing I did when I got Voyager Optimus Prime a few weeks ago was stick him on the back of the Red Lion and it's amazing how well he fit on there, like the lion was made specifically to cart transformers around. ;)^

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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:13 am

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william-james88 wrote:Got myself a raincheck for the Speed set when it comes out at TRU:

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And those prices are in CDN dollars (which they better be because thats the currency I get paid with), but if we were to convert it to US, that means I will be paying $78 for that TR box set as soon as I see it :DANCE:


Thanks for the Product ID of the Velocitron set, mate. And we may see them sooner than we think. If they're released in sequence, they should come out when, or even before, Wave 5 hits.
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Postby bodrock » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:41 am

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william-james88 wrote:Got myself a raincheck for the Speed set when it comes out at TRU:

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And those prices are in CDN dollars (which they better be because thats the currency I get paid with), but if we were to convert it to US, that means I will be paying $78 for that TR box set as soon as I see it :DANCE:


NICE! Will definitely keep my eyes peeled at TRU...
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Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:58 am

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Ha! First thing I did when I got Voyager Optimus Prime a few weeks ago was stick him on the back of the Red Lion and it's amazing how well he fit on there, like the lion was made specifically to cart transformers around. ;)^

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That is one reason I have enjoyed the lions so much and why I don't 100% regret having black lion yet: they work too perfectly with my Transformers. They work as the perfect mount
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Postby Qwan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:33 am

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On the subject of the box-sets, my sources from Australia Toy Fair tell me that they weren't mentioned at that event (how far they inquired and with how many potential retailers, I'm not sure). Of course I'm dealing with a slight middleman situation here so I can't be too certain of anything (the guy I talk to is an employee, who forwards info from me to the boss and then from them back to me), but best as I can tell there aren't any retailers locked in for Australia yet. Now that doesn't mean they're not coming to Australia - I'm so ready to be patient - but like they say, "no news is still news".

...That is what they say right? :P


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:x Nice shot! That's a really flattering angle on this figure - but then again, what angle isn't?

My favorite thing to do with Triggerhappy, personally, is to fold his arms up so every possible barrel is pointing forward. It puts me in mind of Armada Demolishor (whom, of course, I have never actually even seen IRL :oops: ) and definitely looks imposing and destructive. Like so:
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Postby Emerje » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:54 am

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Qwan wrote:On the subject of the box-sets, my sources from Australia Toy Fair tell me that they weren't mentioned at that event (how far they inquired and with how many potential retailers, I'm not sure). Of course I'm dealing with a slight middleman situation here so I can't be too certain of anything (the guy I talk to is an employee, who forwards info from me to the boss and then from them back to me), but best as I can tell there aren't any retailers locked in for Australia yet. Now that doesn't mean they're not coming to Australia - I'm so ready to be patient - but like they say, "no news is still news".


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If those were on display then how could the sets have not been mentioned?

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Postby Qwan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:03 am

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Emerje wrote:
Qwan wrote:On the subject of the box-sets, my sources from Australia Toy Fair tell me that they weren't mentioned at that event (how far they inquired and with how many potential retailers, I'm not sure). Of course I'm dealing with a slight middleman situation here so I can't be too certain of anything (the guy I talk to is an employee, who forwards info from me to the boss and then from them back to me), but best as I can tell there aren't any retailers locked in for Australia yet. Now that doesn't mean they're not coming to Australia - I'm so ready to be patient - but like they say, "no news is still news".


But...
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That... is a good question. :-?

Unfortunately I don't think my contacts have the greatest of Transformer knowledge, so perhaps they did miss it somehow. Ah well, it made for a good placebo for me at least, feeling like I had people investigating for me. If nothing else though, those shots (which I'd completely forgotten about :oops: ) seem to indicate that the box-sets will be making their way down under - whether there are any other details yet or not - that's a great sign of hope!
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Postby RAR » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:43 am

Sabrblade wrote:Considering that 95% of the Cybertrons in Masterforce were all human in some form (either naturally or supernaturally), having a Human Transformer leading other Human Transformers doesn't sound that far of a stretch. ;)


Yeah that is the part I have a problem with - in a way it's the same criticism that people make about the Live Action Movies that the actual Characters are sidelined in their own show - it really is pretty ridiculous for a superior alien race to be taking orders from puny flesh creatures (the few that are in the show that are not actually just puny flesh creatures themselves), I guess I was happier with the hole "Headmaster concept" if done with Aliens instead.

But luckily I'm also a Star trek fan so i'm used to wacky alternative universes so I just file much of Japans output under 'zany'.


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I take it you either have not seen The last part of Beast Machines or long since forgotten it. He's quite crazy in that show - poor Ol' Cheetor was loosing his fur over his antics.
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From what I've heard the Marvel comics were arguably some of the best TF fiction to ever exist - if plagued by the same rampant to-sell-toys program as the cartoon in the 80s. It is where the characterisation and popularity for most post-1986 characters before MTMTE came from though; Scorponok, Nightbeat, Thunderwing, Bludgeon, Carnivac... most of them would have been a footnote if not for Furman coming along and making everyone love them. And of course, some of their original characters like Impactor and Scrounge are loved to this day. I've been trying to track down a way to read the US and UK comics side-by-side so I get the full thing myself since I hear nothing but good things. Besides, this is before Marvel went crazy and made everyone a Hydra agent...

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I've personally had some success giving them to Streetwise - they're pretty nice looking guns tbh, lots of figures should look good with them.
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Postby Sabrblade » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:57 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Considering that 95% of the Cybertrons in Masterforce were all human in some form (either naturally or supernaturally), having a Human Transformer leading other Human Transformers doesn't sound that far of a stretch. ;)


Yeah that is the part I have a problem with - in a way it's the same criticism that people make about the Live Action Movies that the actual Characters are sidelined in their own show - it really is pretty ridiculous for a superior alien race to be taking orders from puny flesh creatures (the few that are in the show that are not actually just puny flesh creatures themselves), I guess I was happier with the hole "Headmaster concept" if done with Aliens instead.

But luckily I'm also a Star trek fan so i'm used to wacky alternative universes so I just file much of Japans output under 'zany'.
You misunderstood everything I said in that quote. Nearly all of the Transformers in that show WERE human, so having a human Transformer leading other human Transformers was NOT inappropriate.

It was nothing like how it is in the movies. In the movies, there is a clear distinction between the Transformers and the human beings. In Masterforce, that distinction is thrown to the wind since one of the entire points of that show was how humans and Transformers could be the same species.
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Re: Transformers Titans Return Product Reveals, News, Updates, Rumors, Leaks and more!

Postby RAR » Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:57 am

Sabrblade wrote:You misunderstood everything I said in that quote. Nearly all of the Transformers in that show WERE human, so having a human Transformer leading other human Transformers was NOT inappropriate.

It was nothing like how it is in the movies. In the movies, there is a clear distinction between the Transformers and the human beings. In Masterforce, that distinction is thrown to the wind since one of the entire points of that show was how humans and Transformers could be the same species.


No I didn't I think we are talking past each other.
The quote is just a topic marker anyway.

I am saying I think Masterforce is a bit weird as it has Human Transformers at all - effectively making most of the characters in the show (and the bad guys) Human in a show that was previously making a point that they were "Super Life Form Transformers" is daft as really all they did was make a Gundam or Sentai Knock off out of it - and so therefore harm it's unique selling point. especially when the Transformers are just suits.

So they are the centre of the show - and as such lord it over any few non-master Transformers that do feature in the show.

The effect of which is the same as the Movies "sidelining" of the title characters for a bunch of human usurpers. But this is a problem more with the Japanese Continuity that I understand as they have this weird fetish as seeing robots as slave to human will and not as alien life forms in their own right (they needed a Gort really or something else to set them up a context to build on that didn't lead to all so many Japanese robots being driven) - I prefer that the unique aspect of Transformers isn't overly undermined.

But it's a mute point anyway as I don't object to the Japanese continuity being Japanese anymore than I do to the UK marvel Comics one.

There are just certain things in Transformers taken as a whole I prefer over other takes on the same thing. I guess I tend to cherry pick to make my own head canon (lockdown pun intentional).

So anyway the point I was trying to make is that I consider "Superlife form Transformers" to be a core element of the brand and adding to many Aliens (I would include Humans in that category) isn't always helpful. it's to easy to get into the bizarre situation you see in Transformers Cybertron when you have a pre-pubescent kid giving giant robots orders. But it's a cartoon trope one has to just put up with - or choose to not watch the shows I guess.

But anyway Masterforce isn't actually compatible with Western coninuity in any reasonable way anyhow - due to the way it sees Transformers working being incompatible with the post-Beast Wars / Post Aligned established backstory and mythologies.

To allow a Human to be LITERALLY a Transformers and not just someone larping as one (like Silas was) is a form of religious heresy and is likely one of the many reasons Megatron wasn't a fan - and it's also one damn good reason why Galvatron wouldn't go anywhere near an partially Organic headmaster (which Titanmasters don't seem to be anwyay).

But we are getting into some very elaborate topics here about history, and destiny and the role of the organic in cybernetic evolution (or some might say devolution leading to total species collapse).

Anyway no offence was intended ; I was just making a point about sidelining of Transformers in their own franchise and skirting around the idea of if Humans are a positive or negative influence on them.
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Postby LE0KING » Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:42 am

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RAR wrote:However since I do want some more beast Transformers I guess the furry religious extremist is a good foot in the door.


Wait, what?


Primal is the leader of the jungle planet, bio says "he is the Herald of the new age of beasts, and will continue fighting against all odds."
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Wolfman Jake wrote:Wait, what?


I take it you either have not seen The last part of Beast Machines or long since forgotten it. He's quite crazy in that show - poor Ol' Cheetor was loosing his fur over his antics.


Yeah, I mostly try not to think about Beast Machines at all when I think about the Beast Era in general, but I think you're painting Optimus Primal with quite a broad stroke when calling him a "religious fanatic." He was trying to make sense of visions from an oracle towards the middle of the series, but soon came to realize that a balance of organic and technological evolution was the future of Cybertron. I would say he was acting more the "prophet" in that regard, though there still isn't THAT much in the way of overt religious overtones, at least not more than the original G1 cartoon had with it's technological mysticism in Alpha Trion, Vector Sigma, and the Matrix of Leadership. Primal and Cheetor did butt heads a lot, but it was more about Cheetor still being treated as a "kid" than anything else. I think the point was more that Primal was willing to embrace the inevitability of change, with Megatron and Tankor being the staunch opposition to such, and the rest of the Maximals being caught in the middle, struggling to understand and accept that their world is never going to be the same again regardless of what they do.
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