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[TF-fan kev777]

BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'

I'm not sure I follow. For Siege at least Bluestreak and Smokescreen are the only ones I can think of who were exclusives and had a more obscure character in Barricade as the regular release. Skywarp is the only other regular character I can think of that was only an exclusive, but he wasn't at the expense of a more obscure character. He was just odd man out this time between he and Thundercracker.

Pretty much all of Siege and Selects has had the more obscure characters as the exclusives while the more known ones were regular releases.

[Skritz]

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

[Sabrblade]

The Quintessons would be big news to me personally as I cannot remember Hasbro ever releasing an official offering of them outside of Gnaw. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (and I may be). Either way this is perfect as we're getting Unicron also.

Transformers: Energon from 2004-2005 had a toy of Alpha Quintesson, complete with three rotating faces:

[Sabrblade]

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

Action Masters, Robot Replicas, and other single-moded toys still counted as Transformers toys, included the aforementioned Alpha Quintesson toy.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

Action Masters, Robot Replicas, and other single-moded toys still counted as Transformers toys, included the aforementioned Alpha Quintesson toy.

I think you're missing the point: all main line toys had some form of transformation, even the ones that don't in-fiction. Toys of the latter just get an alt-mode shoe-horned in, the best example of which is the Cyberverse Scarplet figure.

How would one give a Quintesson a "transformation"? Or rather, how would Hasbro be able to justifiably advertise the 5-faced gimmick as a "transformation"?

[Deadput]

In this is the same Quintessa as the one from The Last Knight but in G1 form then this leaves hope open for a G1 Nitro Zeus


Please I need more of the best Decepticon in the franchise in my life, make him Shockwave's top dog and his foil.

[Grahf_]

Commander is still far too small for Sky Lynx unless each component is its own commander figure.

Wasn't he the same size as Computron in the cartoon?

Pretty much but you have to factor in the differences between a bipedal robot mode versus a quadrupedal and winged robot mode that has to split into two components.

I myself and another who commented already pointed out that each component to Skylynx wouldn't need to be too terribly articulated or contain a high parts counts. However since the figure has to be much longer in robot mode than Jetfire, he's not going to really end up being all that tall. Pretty much take your Jetfire and put him on his hands and knees. That's about the size Skylynx would be if he were to be a single commander figure. If you don't have Jetfire then use Cybertron Megatron or Metroplex. Maybe about the size of Beast Fire Predaking/Guren Dragotron in dragon mode would be more accurate.

If you want Skylynx to scale with your Siege figure and even the CW/PotP combiners then it might be good enough if not still too small. But if you want it to scale to PotP Predaking then it's not even close. Predaking is too big and shouldn't have been a titan to begin with but now that he is, he'll need a titan Skylynx to go up against and a single commander one just won't be large enough. That's why I said double commander.

[william-james88]

BTW ,I know it's a long shot but I really wish Hasbro would make the obscure characters exclusives and keep the main characters general retail. Just sayin'

I'm not sure I follow. For Siege at least Bluestreak and Smokescreen are the only ones I can think of who were exclusives and had a more obscure character in Barricade as the regular release. Skywarp is the only other regular character I can think of that was only an exclusive, but he wasn't at the expense of a more obscure character. He was just odd man out this time between he and Thundercracker.

And even then, Skywarp wasnt a selects toy. The only seeker that got the selects treatment was redwing who very few people know.

Basically, I dont think trailbreaker will be hard to get if he is made.

Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

[Nemesis Primal]

Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

[william-james88]

We recently posted news about upcoming figures, one of them being a voyager Quintesson. A fan who claims to already have this figure chimed in to give a better description of the toy, due to all the wild speculation that was going on in the fanbase. Below is what they wrote in terms of description. The source has previously asked not to be named. Below is what they wrote in terms of description.

I don't know if the design and aesthetic is fit to the Earthrise line.
I don't know , look more like Cyberverse to me.
Articulation only have 4 tentacle move as balljoint at base.
the gimmick is push on top and the head will rotate.
I like it but to you all I don't know , maybe you expect more. But to have such quintesson figure is cool to be honest
it has that pushing down then the head rotate between each face gimmick.
the color is black and each face has that kind of desaturated color , very egyptian like.

Now it could be that this is another Quintesson figure for a different line, we really don't know. All we know is we have further info on an upcoming Quintesson figure, which sounds to be rather simplistic in design.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm intrigued by the Quintesson listings.

I'm hoping they end up being a 5 face changing Quintesson with a stand and some effects parts, and the Quintessa is a toy of TLK Quintessa. That would be an awesome addition to generations and a nice surprise.

[william-james88]

Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?

[ScottyP]

Between Quintessons, a planet map, Hasbro's comments at one of the toy shows last month that Earthrise takes place in space and this being the "story" after Siege which was allegedly when they left Cybertron (I use "story" very very loosely here since there's 0 fiction for this, but that was the TCG angle at least) I'm getting big time "Exiles" vibes. That was a mess of a novel and was Aligned continuity, but it did give us cool stuff like Thundertron's version of Star Seekers.

Detritus is even in the TCG, which isn't necessarily a belwether for a toy but that's even more fuel to that fire. Repaint Storm Cloud and Whisper as Star Saber parts, yeah, this looks like another attempt at Exiles.

[Nemesis Primal]

Also, regarding the quint toy, I am working on a story. But basically:

- non transforming
- not a base
- rotating faces and articulated tentacles

Which one is this info for, the Voyager Quintesson or the Deluxe Quintessa? Whichever one it is, I'm no longer interested in.

Its just a description of a toy, we dont know more, could be another figure altogether.

Also, what did you expect though? Why wouldnt a Quintesson figure simply be what we saw in the film?

I dunno, I expected to be surprised and have the figure have something that makes me actually want it? I expect my Transformers figures to actually, y'know, transform, for starters. I was hoping them doing a Voyager class Quintesson in Generations meant they were going to make all the regular Quintesson stuff be it's robot mode, and then have it turn into...something, at least, like how they made new modes for each of the Weaponizers and Ironworks. A ship, a Sharkticon, a weird Alpha-Q-like monster thing, something. Having a non-transforming egg with faces in the main line just feels to me like a waste of a spot that could have gone to an actual Transformer.

As it stands though, I just have to either hope this is a gimmicky Cyberverse figure that got mislabeled as being in Earthrise, or take this as more proof that Earthrise just won't be as good to me as Siege is/was.

[Un_Chakal]

It's obviously going to be a cyberverse toy. Just like the scraplet gimmick where teeth spin inside.

[Flashwave]

Well, I wont pit Alpha Q away until we get pictures, but even if this IS a Cyberverse figure and not Earthrise, if its done well like Gnaw It could still work.

[Emerje]

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into?

I mean, they aren't Transformers to begin with so I'd be perfectly fine with a Voyager box of Quints that are just action figures with no transforming. I'd much rather have that than trying to shoehorn a transformation into a character that was never intended to transform.

Emerje

[Sentinel_Primal]

Hm... I'm not sold on a non-transforming figure... If that's how the Quintessons are being handled, I'll gladly pass

[Sabrblade]

If the Quints do turn out to be Cyberverse toys and not Earthrise, then that's an interesting move since the Cyberverse Sharkticons are, based on all that has been shown of them, not affiliated with the Quintessons whatsoever, instead being a righteously radical bunch of space surfer dudes.

[Sabrblade]

On a different note, it looks like Titan class Scorponok will have the Marvel/Rebirth-styled head instead of the toy/Headmasters-styled head.

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[Jelze Bunnycat]

Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...

[Sabrblade]

Makes sense with proportions. I wonder what they'll name the intermediate form tho...

Probably just "Mega Zarak" (or some spelling variation thereof).

[Sentinel_Primal]

I can't wait to see the finished Titan. Though, I hope the antenna are going to be orange in the end... That pale gold doesn't work in my opinion

[Bumblevivisector]

Funny thing, I finally got around to unboxing all of my Impossible Toys Allicons last week. So if this voyager is just a big Judge type, that'll scale nicely to represent the larger one from Space Pirates and display well with my custom General Ghyrik, ordering his commandos to ambush Soundwave's forces.

And if it sells SO well that we get official versions of the Executioner, Bailiff, Prosecutor/Leader, and Scientist that I.T. did, the variants of the latter two from Money is Everything and Dweller in the Depths, the Security Quints killed by the Transorganics and the 3-faced ancient that created them in said latter ep, and the humanoid Quintessons in Forever is a Long Time Coming, and then wash it all down with official Allicons, plentiful enough for army building...

...then I guess I'll FINALLY have to admit that 3rd party products are totally unnecessary, and all I had to do was be patient for the real deal to come through.

But that's not gonna' happen.

Because as several previous comments have observed, the Quintessons are just plain non-toyetic. No matter how important they are to the mythos, or genuinely interesting in design they are, they can't really fit within the TF toyline, because they don't transform.

Instead, they're the perfect example of symbiosis between the official Transformer and 3rd party markets. If it weren't for being able to display all those Impossible Toys Quints (IDR which companies made the other, smaller Judges and Allicons), I never would've bought as many TR Sharkticons as I did, and that has to be true for a LOT of other fans. The reception of that toy probably led in turn led to it's Cyberverse enlargening, and now this Voyager and Deluxe, if true. And that should hopefully lead to 3P versions of the unproduced Quint types listed above, continuing the circle of life toward official Allicons!

Seriously, why didn't we get Allicons during Beast Hunters? Amid all those deluxe variations of generic dragons, they could've done more homages than just a few familiar names.

Point is, while it'll be nice to have a full-grown Quintessa, and it's great that Has/Tak really are trying hard to please their old lifelong fans, this is just one of those niche areas where neither official company can get the proper toys done. 3rd parties stuff exists for a reason, for the good of the greater toy ecosystem, making triumphs and errors that help our current crop of official TFs be as awesome as they are.

And yes, I'll buy these two figures, however they turn out!

[Tranzilla]

If we do get a classic-styled, G1 Quintesson: would it transform to still count as a 'Transformers' and if so what would it even turn into? I admit I'm quite curious to see how the hell this could even function as I cannot see Hasbro releasing a non-transforming mainline figure if the leaks are true.

I'm thinking these could be something in the realm of a simplified Mighty Mugs-esque figure. Sounds like the concept is the same.