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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:20 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:The side profile pic of Optimus makes the head and arms look to be set unnaturally far back, didnt notice that on the Magnus figure.

Just picked up y copy and they are set back a little, but in the pics above o/p is also leaning backward, so that's exaggerating it a little
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Dannshinigami » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:07 am

Really dont like it. Even when it was announced I wasnt happy and now seeing it compared to Voyager Prime its just gash. Plus the extra 20-30 quid aint worth it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:21 am

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blackeyedprime wrote:The side profile pic of Optimus makes the head and arms look to be set unnaturally far back, didnt notice that on the Magnus figure.

The top half slides forward and back, other in hand photos have had it slid forward slightly line up his shoulders with his hips. These photos have him slid all the way back and leaning back.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby whacko » Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:28 am

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Wow these pictures just illustrate how much quality had dropped over the last decade.

Siege Cybertron Prime looks like a poor knockoff compared to the original. The plastic on the original looks better, the sculpt is cleaner and more defined and everything appears to peg together much better on the original. Plus the original has more accessories and light and sound gimmicks.

I can't help but feel a little sad that Siege Cybertron Prime is 2/3rds the size of the original with lower quality and basically the same price tag.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:42 am

whacko wrote:Wow these pictures just illustrate how much quality had dropped over the last decade.

Siege Cybertron Prime looks like a poor knockoff compared to the original. The plastic on the original looks better, the sculpt is cleaner and more defined and everything appears to peg together much better on the original. Plus the original has more accessories and light and sound gimmicks.

I can't help but feel a little sad that Siege Cybertron Prime is 2/3rds the size of the original with lower quality and basically the same price tag.


These are different toys though, and one is not meant to replace the other. Its just a new toy of that design (the third one, in fact). The whole point of this toy is that you can include this design within one's generations collection with the same level of articulation and scale at the rest of the line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:59 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:So, has anybody tried weaponizing your weaponizes yet? Who wears who better? My vote is for Cog and his boob guns.

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Nice. If I ever see wave 2 Siege in my area, I'll let you know, but yeah, I wanted to weaponize my weaponizes ;) . Ideally though, I cant wait to finally put these guys with the Titans they were meant to be with. Haven't seen anyone post pics of that yet. Hopefully I can if I ever see Six-Gun
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:45 am

o.supreme wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:So, has anybody tried weaponizing your weaponizes yet? Who wears who better? My vote is for Cog and his boob guns.

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Nice. If I ever see wave 2 Siege in my area, I'll let you know, but yeah, I wanted to weaponize my weaponizes ;) . Ideally though, I cant wait to finally put these guys with the Titans they were meant to be with. Haven't seen anyone post pics of that yet. Hopefully I can if I ever see Six-Gun


I'm on a business trip right now, where I found Six-gun. As soon as I get home, I'll snap some with Cog and Fort Max, and Six-gun and Metroplex.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Whirlkick » Tue Mar 26, 2019 12:46 pm

I've already preordered this guy for 15% off which is pretty good. But his vehicle mode is really unstructured. The old figure has a nice sleek truck but the new one is just a bit of a mess. He's missing a wheel at the front and the rear of his trailer is straight instead of being angled which makes him look clunky. The robot mode is nice, but the truck could be a lot better.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:02 pm

Whirlkick wrote:I've already preordered this guy for 15% off which is pretty good. But his vehicle mode is really unstructured. The old figure has a nice sleek truck but the new one is just a bit of a mess. He's missing a wheel at the front and the rear of his trailer is straight instead of being angled which makes him look clunky. The robot mode is nice, but the truck could be a lot better.

I always found the truck mode terrible, even on the older one. Hence why I never leave him in that mode. The new one is worse of course, but it doesnt make the old one any better to me :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby cruizerdave » Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:14 pm

Gross. Another small voyager being sold at a leader price point.

No thanks.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Patrickab7 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:56 pm

Wasn't planning on any Wave 2 Deluxes but picked up Ironhide and Six-Gun. Ironhide will probably be my only recent exception to avoiding mold overlap(as I'm planning to pick up Ratchet). I passed on Sideswipe because I'm getting Red Alert, am passing on Prowl in favor of Barricade, and am passing on Starscream for Thundercracker(plus I have like seven different Starscream variants). Chromia might have been a pickup if she was combiner compatible but she's not (and I have motorcycle Chromia). Tax season kicked my ass so extracurricular purchases should probably be reduced anyway...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby bvzxa » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:46 pm

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JazZeke wrote:One amusing comparison I just noticed about Cybertron Optimus Prime vs. Siege WfC Galaxy Optimus Prime is that in the original, the shoulder pads are the real truck front and the chest is faux windows. In the remake, the shoulder pads are the faux parts and the chest is the real truck front.
Eh, the original's chest windows weren't fake per se. It's just that, rather than them being from a windshield, they were instead windows that came from the sides of the truck. The person who took the above photos merely forgot to fold the windows out to the sides for the truck mode.

Here's an example of the windows folded out correctly on the old toy:

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Always a pleasure to see Galaxy Convoy. That is one of my favoite toys from the Unicron Trilogy. I wasnt to like the Siege remake but unlike Ultra Magnus the Siege version leaves me feeling some type of way. It's ok and Im not blown away like I was for the original. Still might pick one up anyway who know....
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:29 pm

Patrickab7 wrote:Wasn't planning on any Wave 2 Deluxes but picked up Ironhide and Six-Gun. Ironhide will probably be my only recent exception to avoiding mold overlap(as I'm planning to pick up Ratchet). I passed on Sideswipe because I'm getting Red Alert, am passing on Prowl in favor of Barricade, and am passing on Starscream for Thundercracker(plus I have like seven different Starscream variants). Chromia might have been a pickup if she was combiner compatible but she's not (and I have motorcycle Chromia). Tax season kicked my ass so extracurricular purchases should probably be reduced anyway...

Tax season kicked my ass as well.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TreSLIII3 » Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:18 pm

Does anyone know why this Starscreem has a bayformer symbol? So far all the other decepticons I have show the regular symbol.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Aimless Misfire » Wed Mar 27, 2019 1:34 am

An absolutely horrible update to my favorite Prime of all time. This abomination sucks in every way.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:28 am

cruizerdave wrote:Gross. Another small voyager being sold at a leader price point.

No thanks.


Kind of wish folks with quit beating this dead horse... it's the new standard across all of the transformer lines. Being salty about it, won't change it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:29 am

Aimless Misfire wrote:An absolutely horrible update to my favorite Prime of all time. This abomination sucks in every way.


Part of me likes the little cab Prime (probably boosted by that being the "comic model") but already having Magnus... it feels unnecessary outside of a Nova or Nemesis repaint/retool.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby SpikeyTigertron » Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:30 am

william-james88 wrote:
Patrickab7 wrote:Wasn't planning on any Wave 2 Deluxes but picked up Ironhide and Six-Gun. Ironhide will probably be my only recent exception to avoiding mold overlap(as I'm planning to pick up Ratchet). I passed on Sideswipe because I'm getting Red Alert, am passing on Prowl in favor of Barricade, and am passing on Starscream for Thundercracker(plus I have like seven different Starscream variants). Chromia might have been a pickup if she was combiner compatible but she's not (and I have motorcycle Chromia). Tax season kicked my ass so extracurricular purchases should probably be reduced anyway...

Tax season kicked my ass as well.


The Chromia is rather nice. I'll dig out my T30 one to compare at some point. The T30 would have been perfect if the bike canopy detached as a shield like it did in the comic run.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Patrickab7 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:21 am

My reasoning was that I already have two fembots of a similar mold and will be getting Greenlight (and Lancer?) for the full combiner.
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Transformers Siege Wave 2 Deluxes Being Found Across the Globe

Postby william-james88 » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:45 am

April 1st, the first day of the year's second quarter is right at our doorstep and thus the second wave of Transformers Siege is popping up across the globe. While it was found in the US a little while back, the toys are now being shipped from Chinese retailers (like Robot Kingdom), and found in Canada, Australia and Europe (specifically Germany).

The Canadian sighting found below is provided by your's truly where the deluxes were spotted at an EB Games store in Montreal. They retailed for 29.99 CAD (26.99 with Edge card). In Germany, the deluxes were found in Real supermarkets in the city of Braunschweig.

While not deluxes, wave 2 is creeping up in other European countries as well, like Hungary where they now have the Battle Masters and and Micro Masters.

In Australia, we have a sighting for wave 2 deluxes found at Toyworld, a collectables store which has been getting all the Siege line before bigger stores.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:32 am

I manage to find all of wave 2 over the passed couple weeks. One of my friends doesn’t make it to the city often(he lives about 30 minutes away) so I went out to see if anything was getting restocked. One Walmart I went to had over 30 deluxes of wave 2 on the top shelf! It was insane
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:43 am

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Randomhero wrote:I manage to find all of wave 2 over the passed couple weeks. One of my friends doesn’t make it to the city often(he lives about 30 minutes away) so I went out to see if anything was getting restocked. One Walmart I went to had over 30 deluxes of wave 2 on the top shelf! It was insane


Same story here, managed to find everyone in the last week or so. I'm so glad the distribution is way better this time, as I didn't have this much luck with POTP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:22 pm

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So, yesterday I got Prowl and Ironhide in the mail. Of the two, Ironhide was my most anticipated, and while I quite like his boxy bot mode, as a whole this still isnt the Ironhide I wanted. My figure has the loose right leg flap, but both panels tab in nice enough. It looks lime the hing part was cast too wide to hold the plastic nubs in.

Anyway,

Comparison with Timelines Ironhide from the Energon Tow Line mold.

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Now, I'm not saying the Energon mold is the greatest thing ever, it certainly has some wonky proportions, spindly thighs, a too round head and Van mode, but pound for pound this does everything one could want out of a G1 Ironhide remake: battle sled, gun ports, seperate robot mode, and I stand vy my argument that this is the best remake Ironhide we have up til Siege. Certainly better than the Ubiverse mold, whose vehicle had more panel gaps than a shattered mirror.

Is it better than Siege? Not in Bot mode, but the Jury is out for me on Vehicle mode. For all of its touting about "Choose your Weapon Loadout", Siege has been very hard for me to find weapons I like. True, I am using old toyline guns and Hasbro can't be fairly judged for not bring baclwards compatible with every gun they ever made, but the 5mm peg os standard for a lot of things and I cant be the only one using old toy guns.

The guns I am using for Ironhides past and present are a gun from one of the CW Jets with the propellant tank, and the two cannons from Prime Kup, intended for an Ironhide release that never came. Of those, the CW Gun looks great, but the Prime Cannons are not only small looking, but they are loose in his pegholes. They hold well enough for static display, but they fall outV despite being snug on every other figure including Timelines 'Hide. And in vehicle mode, Ironhide doesnt have a lot of usable 5mm ports. The 4 in top are great except if you put the rocket launcher in one you block the other behind it. There are no ports on the side. With Timelines Ironhide, I could swing those canjons backwards and make them rockets. Not so much here.

Thanks to Chuckdawg's review, for showing me the hidden side ports. If the cannons were longer, they could look really good there, but its not a bad look.

Still, I can't say I am dissappointed by Ironhide, even paying a bit extra for shipping, its still a good toy, and the store I bought it from was a local toy shop, so yay for supporting small businesses!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:37 pm

You’re transforming his chest wrong. You have to hinge it down and there’s grooves inside otherwise the top goes over his chin like in your photos
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:51 pm

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Aimless Misfire wrote:An absolutely horrible update to my favorite Prime of all time. This abomination sucks in every way.

It isn't an update in any way, it's a homage. It's just a call back to the original, but only partial since the smaller bot mode looks nothing like the Cybertron figure. In the end it's still G1 Prime with someone else's gimmick just like how Siege Ultra Magnus is G1 Magnus with RID Magnus' alt mode.

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