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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:09 pm

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Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:27 pm

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Emerje wrote:Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

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Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild :D, A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:51 pm

TrypticonCarne wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

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Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild :D, A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

Mine is from January as well. I got mine in Canada when they were first found in stores.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:22 pm

TrypticonCarne wrote:Line yes, the thickness is what is important here
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I see it now, thanks. That is indeed different.

Also...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:57 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:Line yes, the thickness is what is important here
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I see it now, thanks. That is indeed different.

Also...
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I wonder why mine is different than yours, hmm such a mystery, I mean I thought for 3 months+ it was a simple case of extra mold flash, but no, it's remolded that way,
also glad you caught it,
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:13 am

Though it's old news for everyone else here, some thoughts on the new SIEGE Optimus Prime -- big surprise, I really like it! He succeeds in evoking the image of the classic Optimus, and is easily the best CHUG Prime, there isn't even a competition.

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Looks like some aspects of him were inspired by MP-10, and maybe a little bit by MP-44 with how the truck's grill and other stuff fold over from the front to his back.

And speaking of his back, I'm not loving the giant board they stuck on it. I wish they had worked out a tidier way to do it. It appears they sculpted his classic back shape underneath it.

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I would have liked a more on-model truck-mode, I know they were going for "Cybertronian" but it looks more like his classic truck with a bunch of stuff tacked on it. Maybe the back would have been more compact otherwise.


Also wish they had painted his crutch blue so I wouldn't have to do it myself. And maybe included a hint of tankers in robot-mode. But overall this is pretty much what I wanted for my CHUG collection, for the Rebirth cast. Shame it wasn't created years ago!

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I like the upgraded articulation and robot-scale that HasTak has established with this line. (Heads back movement is a little limited for everyone though. And I would have liked for Prime to bend his knees forward a little.)

I feel that SIEGE is more true to the characters, unlike say Titans Return that made everyone Headmasters including Perceptor and the Targetmasters.

Still not a big fun of the war paint. But maybe it's a little less harsh in-hand. And one advantage is that future paint wear will blend right in with the fake wear, I guess.


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Weird thing, his flight stand port is too small! It doesn't work.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:30 am

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william-james88 wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild :D, A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

Mine is from January as well. I got mine in Canada when they were first found in stores.

So I guess the $64 question is, is this an intential change, or a deviation between two casting moulds? I wonder how many Hasbro has in play for a figure, if they are stamping an entire run out of one or if they have 2 (or possibly multiple in one) seperate cut to speed production? Moulds are expenvie, but I could maybe see production being high enough to justify having them.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:03 am

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Well Cyberpath, for seemingly not liking him very much, you sure make him look AWESOME! :lol: ;)^

Love that last shot of him getting blown away!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:10 am

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Cobotron wrote:Love that last shot of him getting blown away!
Or he just had Taco Bell. :P
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:40 am

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Flashwave wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
TrypticonCarne wrote:
Emerje wrote:Yes, when I compare my first run Siege Megatron to my Selects G2 Megatron the ridge is noticeably thicker on the G2 version and there's more friction. I can easily see it turn up on standard Siege Megs since the mold would have been modified and is still in use.

Emerje

Mine's from January before the Selects megatron was released or announced at all, so more could be in the wild :D, A running change for Megatron is possible, unlike starscream, where we had no reports after that one dude

Mine is from January as well. I got mine in Canada when they were first found in stores.

So I guess the $64 question is, is this an intential change, or a deviation between two casting moulds? I wonder how many Hasbro has in play for a figure, if they are stamping an entire run out of one or if they have 2 (or possibly multiple in one) seperate cut to speed production? Moulds are expenvie, but I could maybe see production being high enough to justify having them.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm

Cobotron wrote:Well Cyberpath, for seemingly not liking him very much, you sure make him look AWESOME! :lol: ;)^

Love that last shot of him getting blown away!

Thanks! Did it sound like I didn't like him much, or were you being ironic? I can't tell. :lol: I do like him, as of writing this, he's my favourite CHUG! Just think he can be even better. :))

Looking forward to Megatron (although Galvatron would have worked better with the whole Rebirth thing.)
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:59 pm

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Cyberpath wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Well Cyberpath, for seemingly not liking him very much, you sure make him look AWESOME! :lol: ;)^

Love that last shot of him getting blown away!

Thanks! Did it sound like I didn't like him much, or were you being ironic? I can't tell. :lol: I do like him, as of writing this, he's my favourite CHUG! Just think he can be even better. :))

Looking forward to Megatron (although Galvatron would have worked better with the whole Rebirth thing.)

Lets hope yours is like mine
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TrypticonCarne » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:05 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:42 pm

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sat Mar 30, 2019 8:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Love that last shot of him getting blown away!
Or he just had Taco Bell. :P


That's where my mind went first too. Toilet humor is alive and well. :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:48 pm

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Found ONE, just one Siege figure locally. Starscream.

Looks good in both modes, but some parts are a bit too loose, for example the chest just pops off with a strong breeze.

Then the fists don't want to seem to fold up properly.

Are those things a thing with him or did I just get super lucky?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:02 am

Motto: "Our society's downfall will not be this war. The war IS our society. That which will get us will be the little things. Some humanoid race, some tossed cannon, the little things that no one looks out for. THAT is for what we must be vigilant."
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Burn wrote:316 pages later and I can finally join in!

Found ONE, just one Siege figure locally. Starscream.

Looks good in both modes, but some parts are a bit too loose, for example the chest just pops off with a strong breeze.

Then the fists don't want to seem to fold up properly.

Are those things a thing with him or did I just get super lucky?

Thats a thing with a lot of Siege figures, it seems. Anything relying on the plastic nub in a hole hinge design seems to suffer from big fluctuations in Tolerances. The side leg flaps on Ironhide are another popular culprit. For Screamer, rhe chest floppi g off is so well known its become scandalous: someone claimed to have found a Running Change with rhe Chest hinge replsced with metal pins, but no one has been able to colloborate the sitings, including Hasbro, and the claimed runni gbchange matches up real close to a fix advocated by dome Youtubers. So either someone made up a hoax for attention, or someone bought, fixed, and returned a Starscream and someone bought the Returned Figure with the aftermarket pins added.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:21 am

Dammit! Dammit! Dammit!

For the last couple of years I convinced myself that the CW and TR figures can represent G1 in my collection, but now I'm leaning towards collecting all of Siege to represent G1, while CW and TR will represent IDW.

I was hoping to avoid spending more money and making more space. The curse of a collector...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:08 am

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Flashwave wrote:For Screamer, rhe chest floppi g off is so well known its become scandalous: someone claimed to have found a Running Change with rhe Chest hinge replsced with metal pins, but no one has been able to colloborate the sitings,

Does the original release come with holes in the chest for a pin to go through at least?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:21 am

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Burn wrote:316 pages later and I can finally join in!

Found ONE, just one Siege figure locally. Starscream.

Looks good in both modes, but some parts are a bit too loose, for example the chest just pops off with a strong breeze.

Then the fists don't want to seem to fold up properly.

Are those things a thing with him or did I just get super lucky?


I had a little trouble with the fists at first, but then I got the "trick." You have to make sure the fists are rotated just the right way to get the whole assembly to close correctly. I assume you're also collapsing the biceps into the forearms for transformation, yes?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby matthewrex » Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:34 am

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Managed to snag Ironhide from Amazon. I actually really like him, but he has two right hands :BANG_HEAD:

Not only that but his left leg panel basically falls off if you sneeze near it.

I'm going to be waiting for it to come back in stock to get another one and return it. Like him overall though!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:40 am

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matthewrex wrote:Managed to snag Ironhide from Amazon. I actually really like him, but he has two right hands :BANG_HEAD:

Not only that but his left leg panel basically falls off if you sneeze near it.

I'm going to be waiting for it to come back in stock to get another one and return it. Like him overall though!

Yeah, well, mine had the head fused to the ball joint so it couldn't compact for vehicle mode, and the torso rotation mechanism was actually fuse so the front of the vehicle mode couldn't rotate into place :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:42 am

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Flashwave wrote:For Screamer, rhe chest floppi g off is so well known its become scandalous: someone claimed to have found a Running Change with rhe Chest hinge replsced with metal pins, but no one has been able to colloborate the sitings,

Does the original release come with holes in the chest for a pin to go through at least?


He does, and some reviewers have put how-to videos on YouTube. Dig a little in this thread. ;)

Ironhide's panel popping is apparently due to mismatched holes for the pegs: the holes are slightly too small, so the pegs don't go in all the way and even push them out a bit.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:10 pm

Some thoughts about Ultra Magnus...

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* The manuals for the SIEGE line are muddy, it took me a while to figure out Magnus even got frustrated for a moment there. Maybe it was an off day.

* The tractor mode alone is below standard at this point. With the feet up up like that and the arms and hands sticking out to blatantly. But not terrible with the trailer attached. With the trailer it looks good.

* And everything has to be lined/tabbed/positioned to the millimeter for it to work.

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* A trailer-less Optimus doesn't look "right" next to Magnus in full alt-mode. I hide his truck-bed behind Magnus on the shelf.

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* One of my favouirte things about his transformation is how the belt flips around.

* Similar articulation to MP, plus waist rotation.

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* It's subtle but something about his face sculpt (of the inner robot) is more Optimus than SIEGE Prime.

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* I like having one Magnus with a "perfect transformation" (whatever the term in Japan) like the cartoon. And one with an inner White Convoy. Will have to think of a back-story for him.

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* The reason why I got this when I already had an Ultra Magnus is that I was impressed that Optimus and White Convoy were two different molds, with the same signature elements done in different styles. HasTak could have also Magnus for Prime too, but came up with a brand new mold. I think they're really upping their game with this line. And war-paint aside, Hasbro might be better at getting the decos right than before.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:22 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
matthewrex wrote:Managed to snag Ironhide from Amazon. I actually really like him, but he has two right hands :BANG_HEAD:

Not only that but his left leg panel basically falls off if you sneeze near it.

I'm going to be waiting for it to come back in stock to get another one and return it. Like him overall though!

Yeah, well, mine had the head fused to the ball joint so it couldn't compact for vehicle mode, and the torso rotation mechanism was actually fuse so the front of the vehicle mode couldn't rotate into place :HEADHURTS:


BAH! A TRUE Geewun Ironhide need no head! :lol:
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