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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Mon Jul 08, 2019 11:30 pm

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carytheone wrote:This will be the rare case of a Siege figure (Mirage) not replacing an older CHUG toy.
Will he at least be accompanying the older one, given the accessories and actually having 5mm-compatible hands?
Not sure if I understand the question, but I think the answer is no because I'm skipping Siege Mirage. I probably should have made that clearer.

I do like the look of the figure and wouldn't mind a redeco as not Dragstrip. Whoa, deja vu :HALUC:


If I may ask, why are you passing on this new Mirage? He looks G1 AF, is only the second "Classics" version of the character we've gotten, and his original 2006 update, IMO, hasn't aged well with his pin-head and overall wonky proportions.

cuz the classics one rocks and has aged really well, it just isn't g1 enough for most people I'd imagine >:oP

Ehhh. I would say that the Minibot-size head looks a smidgen off nowadays, he's lacking in weapons and the one he has makes him look really scrawny in robot mode, and the ball-jointed ankle tilts have definitely NOT aged well. Those feet flop like deflated balloons :BANG_HEAD:
And the hands aren't 5mm compatible. #-o :roll: :-x

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carytheone wrote:Has anyone tried integrating Brunt with Trypticon in base/ship mode as a cannon/tower G1 style yet? I've searched the webernets and have come up short. I haven't taken the time or made the room to try it myself yet.


I just got around to it today. I stated with ship mode and just 1 Brunt and it actually wasn't that easy to come up with something I liked. There is also a pretty good lack of useful 5mm holes especially in ship mode. I wanted symmetry and Brunt's arm pieces are really the only symmetrical pair of parts. So those became claws for the front of the ship because why not, and I was able to barely put together a central cannon that used the 5mm holes on top of the part of the ship on either side of the main ramp for city mode. I say barely because Brunt's crotch/upper thigh part is just like 1mm to short for the 5mm posts on his knees fit snugly in the holes on Trypticon.

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Then I moved onto using 2 Brunts for better options with symmetry.

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Then I switched to city mode and changed things up a little more. I went with 3 weaponizers for each city bot with 2 used for supplementing the ship/city and the 3rd to be the actual character. So Trypticon gets a brunt, and a bunch of bling in the form of brunt pieces.

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You might get better results in ship/battlestation mode if you detach Full-Tilt and move him to the garage. That spot all the way at the back was where Brunt's cannon attached on the original, after all, so it might be worth a shot.

Also, the instructions are wrong (gee, there's a shock) about Trypticon's purple cannon barrels. They should be extended in ship mode (to make the towers look more like guns). and collapsed in city mode.

I hope they do a bow battlemaster.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:40 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You might get better results in ship/battlestation mode if you detach Full-Tilt and move him to the garage. That spot all the way at the back was where Brunt's cannon attached on the original, after all, so it might be worth a shot.

Also, the instructions are wrong (gee, there's a shock) about Trypticon's purple cannon barrels. They should be extended in ship mode (to make the towers look more like guns). and collapsed in city mode.


Sadly there is a lack of useful 5mm ports in the area where Full Tilt attaches. Of the 3 Titans with weaponizer partners, Trypticon seems to have the least amount of useful 5mm ports with Metroplex having the most. Trypticon also has some deceiving screw holes that are slightly larger than 5mm.

As for the shoulder cannons, I know how you think they should be, but this is my personal preference. I prefer them extended in city mode to give a taller silhouette. I do usually also have them out in ship mode as well, but they would have interfered with the cannons I added from by 2 Brunts. Probably would have been fine when I only used 1 Brunt.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:43 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:04 am

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Went to a Walmart a little out of my way yesterday but finally sighted wave 3 deluxes. Picked up Brunt (the only one of the lot I really wanted). It's kind of satisfying to know that everything I want form this line I have except the pricier Jetfire, and Omega Supreme (which isn't even out yet). As others have said, I'll probably wait until a sale closer to end of year to get both of these, that gives me time to save up, and *hopefully* knock off one or 2 of the even pricier/older TT Legends items I've been holding off on.
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New Images for Transformers Siege Impactor and Mirage showing in Package and Finalized Deco

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:14 am

Seibertronians Microbot and Nemesis Primal found new images of Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege deluxes Impactor and Mirage. These specific ones were found on the BBTS website where they are available for preorder. These stock images show us the finished toys, unlike the previous images we got that showed 3D renders. We also have images of them inside their box. These toys will be out in October and they are in even cases made up of Mirage, Impactor, Sixgun and Barricade. Enjoy the images below and let us know what you think. Mirage, for instance, seems to have quite the imaginative transformation.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:14 am

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Skritz wrote:I know everyone and their mom said it, but Brunt just scream 'Beast Machine Vehicon but less stupid'.
:lol: "Less Stupid" should Siege's sub-subtitle. One could argue that Siege is pulling all the good ideas and culling all the bad idea from the Prime Wars trilogy.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Coptur » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:35 am

loving Mirage and happy to leave Impactor on the shelf :lol:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:35 am

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Am I seeing similarities with CW Brawl in Impactor? , or is it just my imagination...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:38 am

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o.supreme wrote:Am I seeing similarities with CW Brawl in Impactor? , or is it just my imagination...
The latter. CW Brawl was a dinky little thing, this Impactor is practically Voyager-sized, even taller than Ironhide.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:55 am

o.supreme wrote:Am I seeing similarities with CW Brawl in Impactor? , or is it just my imagination...


...how? He doesn’t transform or look anything like him in any way
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:56 am

Randomhero wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Am I seeing similarities with CW Brawl in Impactor? , or is it just my imagination...


...how? He doesn’t transform or look anything like him in any way


I think it's just the hollowed out tread legs that gives the impression of similarity.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:46 am

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Also, the instructions are wrong (gee, there's a shock) about Trypticon's purple cannon barrels. They should be extended in ship mode (to make the towers look more like guns). and collapsed in city mode.

I hope they do a bow battlemaster.

Wait, what do you mean by --- OH MY GOD I THOSE DO PULL OUT.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Skritz » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:03 am

So, Impactor: he's growing on me in spite of people saying he's ugly. But then again his big ugly mug seems to remind me of an '80 action hero like Ahnuld or Stallone so that works well for him. His colors seem a pretty mixed bag and never look the same in pictures so I'll have to wait and see how it looks in hand.

Anybody else want to see him retooled into Demolishor, btw?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Vic Zanzibar » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:24 am

They both look great. I’m not gonna get Mirage though. Classics Mirage was the in the first batch of Transformers I ever bought. I just can’t see myself replacing him.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:28 am

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It kind of bugs me that only the blue parts on Mirage are translucent (even more so that it isn't all of them) but It doesn't look bad.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:30 am

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I like the yellow highlights on Impactor, as well as the fact he has an ab crunch which I never noticed before.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Wireless_Phantom » Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:39 am

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Brunt makes me wish the club was still around. He'd make a great Uprising/Pre-Beast Wars Scorponok.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:13 pm

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Picking up impactor tho the autobot sybmbols in kind of a weird place and will be awkward looking when replaced with a sticker to keep all the autobot symbols red. Fingers crossed Hasbro doesnt just use a repaint for warpath.

Mirages alt mode is a lot worse than it appears in the image, the spoiler reminds me of an old 80's robot car that had its legs sticking straight up despite how flat/plain Mirage looks. I do like his bot mode and will probably pick one up on sale but repaints are going to be hard to justify the price for a figure that essentially only has a robot mode for me.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:28 pm

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blackeyedprime wrote:Picking up impactor tho the autobot sybmbols in kind of a weird place and will be awkward looking when replaced with a sticker to keep all the autobot symbols red. Fingers crossed Hasbro doesnt just use a repaint for warpath.
What, you don't want an oversized version of this? ;)

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:49 pm

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blackeyedprime, take into account that Mirage's forearms are supposed to be his engine block. Does that help any?

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ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Also, the instructions are wrong (gee, there's a shock) about Trypticon's purple cannon barrels. They should be extended in ship mode (to make the towers look more like guns). and collapsed in city mode.

I hope they do a bow battlemaster.

Wait, what do you mean by --- OH MY GOD I THOSE DO PULL OUT.

Hehehe. Yes, yes they do. And the 5mm ports on the towers make nice places to put Battlemasters, that's where I have Blowpipe and Aimless for now.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:55 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:blackeyedprime, take into account that Mirage's forearms are supposed to be his engine block. Does that help any?


I never saw an engine block look like that on a racecar, there is usually a bunch of space under the spoiler.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:57 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:blackeyedprime, take into account that Mirage's forearms are supposed to be his engine block. Does that help any?


I never saw an engine block look like that on a racecar, there is usually a bunch of space under the spoiler.



He's a Cybertronian car. That's all you need to know to justify how he looks. :-D
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:57 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:blackeyedprime, take into account that Mirage's forearms are supposed to be his engine block. Does that help any?


I never saw an engine block look like that on a racecar, there is usually a bunch of space under the spoiler.

Maybe on Cybertron that ain't the case.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby carytheone » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:59 pm

Motto: "shelf space may be fleeting, but plastic is forever"
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william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:blackeyedprime, take into account that Mirage's forearms are supposed to be his engine block. Does that help any?
I never saw an engine block look like that on a racecar, there is usually a bunch of space under the spoiler.
Well to be fair, aerodynamics don't seem to matter much on Cybertron. I think it's a good idea as far as transformation goes and implemented as well as that price point could allow. The spoiler bits do look cool on his shoulders though. I wonder if a few more moving parts could have put the arms behind or under the altmode with the spoiler clean and free on top?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Nathaniel Prime » Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:13 pm

Motto: "The only difference between a hero and the villain is that the villain chooses to use that power in a way that is selfish and hurts other people."
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Not gonna lie, the scaling of these figures are pretty perfect to what I imagine them ;)^
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