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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:26 am

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Astrotrain continues to look amazing, the launch pad tender idea is great.

Spinister is looking really nice, though honestly I'd rather they'd made one of his legs into a sort of engine detail for helicopter mode and just let him have asymmetrical legs. Still, I do want him somewhat.

Apeface looks cool but I don't really care that much about Apeface as a character. Nice that he exists though.

Rung, well, it's cool that people that want a Rung can get one. I don't care about him at all but I don't begrudge his existence in the line (though I'd prefer a Nickel).

Crosshairs actually looks really cool. I don't think I'll buy him but the colours look wonderful on that mold.

The two-parter Micromaster pair look sweet. No clue who they are but I like them.

Ratbat looks cool but that Fremble mold, yikes! I get there's limits to how good you can make something at that scale but honestly I think I'll track down the United figures. I don't mind them not actually fitting inside Soundwave's chest, and they look really nice toys, especially with those tank modes.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby blackeyedprime » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:43 am

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Doesnt look like the head hides on cassette guy, it just turns around like on the old 80's watches. I'd only be getting it for scaling with Siege soundwave otherwise KO MPs are perfect for display with any line (I got Hasbro MP soundwave so I've not needed the kos but will eventually get the buzzsaw just for the different shade of yellow). Im not sure if size is that much of a restriction if worlds smallest ravage looks better than siege ravage.

Having just watched Everything wrong with bumblebee, the ravage in that film still looks awesome but is as close to being a Zoid as can be (Please let there be a live action Zoid film, not done by any Baynus crew).
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby joevill » Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:52 am

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These all look really fun!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:37 am

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Aimless Misfire wrote:Are they seriously releasing Apeface but not Snapdragon? I hope it's not gonna be another Chop Shop where they never bothered to release the rest of the team.

Also Crosshairs just looks like Ironhide painted in Optimus Primes colors. Nice try Hasbro but NO!

1. Be patient, willya? They're probably still hashing out how to handle Krunk.
2. Oh yes, because the red thighs, blue-and-black arms, and unique black headsculpt sooooo look like Optimus' color layout and Ironhide's head. :roll: Also, did you miss the initial renders of Crosshairs or something?


I never mentioned the color "LAYOUT". I only mentioned the colors RED & BLUE. It looks like Ironhide is painted in OP's colors. It reminds me of that lame Cloud Roadbuster/Energon Ironhide repaint.

I don't know what you're talking about "initial renders of Crosshairs", I'm just looking at the G1 toy of Crosshairs & this Ironhide repaint doesn't work for me. I want an actual G1 update that looks like the G1 toy. Same goes for Doubledealer. I don't want lazy half-assed repaints of molds that look nothing like the original G1 toy. If Hasbro can give us molds like Apeface & Springer that look exactly like their G1 toy then I'm not settling for that horrible 30th Doubledealer or this crappy Crosshairs.

1. True, you didn't mention layout. But given the prominent presence of BLACK and the absence of white/gray (save for the silver windows), it doesn't really look like "Optimus colors". It looks like Crosshairs colors. And whether you mentioned it or not, layout does play a role in the distinction. And again, new headsculpt.
2. What do I mean by "initial renders of Crosshairs"? I mean the initial renders of Crosshairs. As in, the renders of SIEGE Crosshairs that were posted here a few weeks ago. As in, we've known about this for a while already, why did it take you this long to voice your complaints?
3a. I disagree with you about this Crosshairs "look[ing] nothing like the original G1 toy":
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He's got the sloped windshield chest (the one in the display is mistransformed) with a red frame, the boxy blue arms.. The vehicle mode has less of a resemblance, true, but the tires at least look suitably big even if they don't protrude and the body shape is quasi-similar. Finding a perfect match for Crosshairs would be kinda hard, because of the fact that the rear half of his altmode is just his lower legs elevated onto his thighs without a big gap in the center.
3b. Springer does not look exactly like his original G1 toy, certain things like the paldrons are changed for cartoon accuracy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:38 am

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Randomhero wrote:Well there’s our Primus to go with Unicron :lol:


In 2024, to celebrate the brands 40th anniversary, ONLY if the Unicron Haslab project is successful Of course Primus will cost $725 and Hasbro will want 12K backers...

As for the Micromaster combiner shown...I wonder if this will come in the standard packaging we've seen now, or new packaging. I mean all the micromasters have had a *combined form* up until this point, but we all know the original Micromaster combiners were a subset after the original Micromasters came out. I would think they would have saved those for the next line (which they may). This may be a similar case, such as when CW Legends Buzzsaw was released prior to TR, though it was obviously designed for the TR line.

These reveals are cool, and round out that late 4th/5th (depending on the size assortment) we were expecting. I'm still a bit concerned about Hasbro's stance to keep these lines to 12 months. maybe they are *testing* the waters to see if they can push the next line off until Spring, instead of revealing it in January.

I guess we'll know come end of year, if stores have ordered a glut of wave 4 stuff, or if the new wave 5 items are actually available at retail. Still, with all of this, I'll be more excited for any reveals of the 2020 line.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:38 am

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Is it weird that it’s the little guys that have me the most excited? Like I’d’ve never expected them to do Rung, yet here he is. Super happy that they managed to pull off Frenzy, I was afraid that they’d only do Laserbeak and Ravage and leave it at that. I’m calling it right now; when they get around to doing Rumble, they pack him with either Buzzsaw or (thanks to the precedent started by Masterpiece) Wingthing. The Micromaster 10-pack is disappointing, but I’d still probably get to help round out the teams. Hope they do more Micromaster Combiners too!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:39 am

Wow, $175 for what turned out to be a $80 upcoming Target release. I’m glad I missed this auction.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:46 am

Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

Honestly, that's the one BIG thing Hasbro has had over 3rd Party for the past decade — proportions have been hands-down much, much better. I can't see them dropping the ball on this guy... not this hard.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:53 am

o.supreme wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Well there’s our Primus to go with Unicron :lol:


In 2024, to celebrate the brands 40th anniversary, ONLY if the Unicron Haslab project is successful Of course Primus will cost $725 and Hasbro will want 12K backers...

As for the Micromaster combiner shown...I wonder if this will come in the standard packaging we've seen now, or new packaging. I mean all the micromasters have had a *combined form* up until this point, but we all know the original Micromaster combiners were a subset after the original Micromasters came out. I would think they would have saved those for the next line (which they may). This may be a similar case, such as when CW Legends Buzzsaw was released prior to TR, though it was obviously designed for the TR line.

These reveals are cool, and round out that late 4th/5th (depending on the size assortment) we were expecting. I'm still a bit concerned about Hasbro's stance to keep these lines to 12 months. maybe they are *testing* the waters to see if they can push the next line off until Spring, instead of revealing it in January.

I guess we'll know come end of year, if stores have ordered a glut of wave 4 stuff, or if the new wave 5 items are actually available at retail. Still, with all of this, I'll be more excited for any reveals of the 2020 line.



Umm...okay? I was referring to rung because he’s Primus in the comics.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Jul 17, 2019 9:59 am

gothsaurus wrote:Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

Honestly, that's the one BIG thing Hasbro has had over 3rd Party for the past decade — proportions have been hands-down much, much better. I can't see them dropping the ball on this guy... not this hard.


It’s an inch and half tall micromaster
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:02 am

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gothsaurus wrote:Like many of you, I'm hoping Frumble there is mistransformed. His hips swinging down and/or feet folding out to add some height would be a huge improvement.

It's a strong possibility. I swear, sometimes it feels like Hasbro's reps would do better to ask small children to transform the toys for the displays...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:06 am

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I’m a Frenzy it red guy so I’m just going to call him that but he’s got fireblast effect plugs on his hands just like Storm Cloud.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:20 am

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:23 am

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Randomhero wrote:Umm...okay? I was referring to rung because he’s Primus in the comics.


Sorry, it's early...I misread your comment as "Where's our Primus?

Still...I read most of the IDW comics, and had no idea that was the case. As I'm not really a fan, and glad that chapter is closed. I agree with the person that felt Warden had no idea who this was, and just agreed to the design to placate a few fans, which is fine. My son will enjoy this merely as a battle master, on the same level as Pteraxadon or Smashdown.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:27 am

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Do does that mean Rung can smite his enemies with holy lightning? He’s a literal god gun now! 8-}
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby reconfigure » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:30 am

Awesome headline. "The reveals are revealed!" How about designs revealed? Figures revealed? A lot of choices would work there.

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Price and Exclusive Retailer Revealed for Siege Rainmakers and Micromasters Sets

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:32 am

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Price tags for both the Siege Rainmaker set and Micromaster 10 pack were found at a target in Minnesota. Below is a description of each tag. The Target exclusivity is only for the US, of course. We do not know who will be the exclusive retailers in other countries. Target has been early on their price tags before so don,t expect these products to be there tomorrow (or next week). All we know is who is getting them and for how much. These were found by Marto6 who posted on the TFW2005 boards.

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Name on tag: TRA Seeker 3pck
Price: $79.99
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:33 am

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Every time someone writes "Micromaster Combiner" I think, "like the Universe ones that were full teams that combine into a giant super bot?! Did I miss something in those photos?!"

I realize now you guys are talking about the 2 blue Micros that combine in alt mode. :lol:
They look fun, but how awesome would it be if they DID revive those guys? I'd be all for it!

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Stargrave » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:35 am

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william-james88 wrote:
Stargrave wrote:I’m a Frenzy it red guy


Oh no, I thought we were friends.


:lol: don’t judge me man! :lol:

I was little and went by the cartoon honestly I heard the names before I could read them. I was programmed young :shock:
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Re: Price and Exclusive Retailer Revealed for Siege Rainmakers and Micromasters Sets

Postby Stargrave » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:39 am

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Name on tag: TRA Seeker 3pck
Price: $79.99
Item number: E5002

Name on tag: TRA Micro pck
Price: $39.99
Item number: E7670

Yessss awesome news! Thanks Will!

Man that’s downright reasonable. That’s crazy.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:40 am

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Wow! Those Target exclusives are priced about $10 cheaper than if you were to by the same count the way they're singly packaged.

i.e 1 Voyager is $30. 3 Voyagers at $26ish a pop.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:40 am

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Cobotron wrote:"Micromaster Combiner" I think, "like the Universe ones that were full teams that combine into a giant super bot?! Did I miss something in those photos?!"


I totally understand that sentiment. But considering the Universe Combiners were based on Operation Combination combiners, if they were ever to be realized again, I'd prefer them to scale up with the previous CW & PotP ones we already have and use the same system. The same with Landcross and Monstructor/Dinoking.... except that in ALL those examples, these were teams of six instead of 5, and they coujld only combine in one way. I guess relegating one team member to be a weapon would be fine.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mr.MicroMaster » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:47 am

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I literally love everything I'm seeing. Astrotrain looks awesome and so does Apeface. Crosshairs and Spinster look great. Can't believe we are actually getting a Rung. I really want to get my hands on that Micromaster ten pack. I cannot believe we are getting Micromaster combiners that's awesome hopefully we get Oiler and Slide because they are my favorite. I also didn't expect to get Rumble and Ratbat is also a nice surprise. I'm betting Frenzy will come with Buzzsaw.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Mindmaster » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:48 am

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Those packs are surprisingly affordable, I thought they’d be a little extra for exclusivity’s sake. Definitely going to have to check them out when they start showing up!
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Jul 17, 2019 10:55 am

I would have like to have seen an effects pack, with the different blasts all in different colors.
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