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Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Flashwave wrote:Was halfway listening to the first half.
My take on the Dinobots:
Volcanicus' shoulders are too wide for the body. Even with the filler hands on the body, the torso is far too wide up top and even the attachment joints are further out from the actual shoulders.
I don't like Sludge's head, the plastic casing that makes the clear plastic effect makes him look like he's still in his plastic packaging. The others are sorta like that too (for me)
Flashwave wrote:ScottyP: I have wo words for you on that FanCharacter thing: 4. Chan.
What maybe they could do, was a character built from a pool of a dozen predetermined adjectives. For example, you pick from Heroic, Brave, Smart, Reckless, Brawny, Skittish, etc. So maybe your submission is "Blue, Pickup Truck, Skittish, Heroic, Decepticon" and Hasbro builds a character from that. It's structured enough you can't get another Boaty McBoatface but offers more freedom than we already get
Silver bolt/Hun Grr. Here's my theory, that someone in the design department was playing with a Silverbolt and said "Look! I made a Dragon Mode... wait a minute...." and took the new design from that cue.
Flashwave wrote:Unicron Earth- What I didn't like about it was that it's another "Oh here, the Earth is this thing now, too. It sorta, I dunno, took the speacialness of Earth away by making into something actuially special. I liked how in TF Prime, Planet Earth was just a planet where they buried stuff. One of a few thousand planets in the War's history. It gave the story a recyclable reason to bring characters to Earth, without being some splashy thing or some super maguffin. If you wanty to make a Unicron planet, then lets go with BWII Gaia or something that's not Earth.
As to "Where do you go with Unicron", one of the things that I suspect he'll be a stopover point for a much larger "Knights of Cybertron" or "Primes" storyline. Frim Unicron, you go right back into the dynamic of the Primes, sorta Avengers style. But it's also been true that Unicron has always been an etherial being and the Body was just a vessel. In Marvel G1, he and Primus fought on the Astral Planes. In the TFCC comics (which I realize IDW and FunPub did not get along) Unicron was a singular omniversial presence. In TF Prime: Even though Optimus defeated Unicorn's body, Megatron became bound to Unicron's own spark. Even in Predacons Rising, Unicron was contained, not defeated, and youy can find any one of a dozen stories where Unicron's Spark or Essence continues on.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
YoungPrime wrote:The gripes about the Dinobots were spot on!
Three of them should've been Voyagers and the other two deluxe without the lame combiner gimmick which did nothing but compromise the quality of these characters.
And Volcanicus looks like TRASH! Seriously, have you seen his leg the Sludge becomes? The Brontosaurus parts end up looking like the kibble of a goose with a broken neck! The crap just looks second hand at best. So Platinum Edition FOC Grimlock remaining my place holder is how I know that I wont be combining these Dinobots either.
YoungPrime wrote:How many Leader class Optimus Primes do we need? If the Prime that this gimmick becomes was simply a Voyager it would've been a buy on sight instead of another pass.
I'm only getting Rodimus for the Space Winnebago and Hotrod portion that does look like Rodimus.
We've asked for a Voyager class Starscream for over a decade now and after 3 more deluxes and a Leader class Starscream they give us this bulky mess that becomes a combiner that no one asked for.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:YoungPrime wrote:The gripes about the Dinobots were spot on!
Three of them should've been Voyagers and the other two deluxe without the lame combiner gimmick which did nothing but compromise the quality of these characters.
And Volcanicus looks like TRASH! Seriously, have you seen his leg the Sludge becomes? The Brontosaurus parts end up looking like the kibble of a goose with a broken neck! The crap just looks second hand at best. So Platinum Edition FOC Grimlock remaining my place holder is how I know that I wont be combining these Dinobots either.
Which FOC Grimlock do you use - the one that comes with FOC Bruticus (now THAT's trash) or the 'Silver Knight' Target version that comes with Deluxe Optimus? I have the latter with an ArtTek head & blasters, and love him.
As much as I wish they had done 3 Voyagers & 2 Deluxes with ride along, Diaclone-esque Titan Masters, and as much as I am unhappy about the combiner aspect of him, I do have to say that the Combiner himself is pretty slick looking to me. The balance is there, and we'll see if anything can be done with the Sludge head. We've come a long way since Menasor...YoungPrime wrote:How many Leader class Optimus Primes do we need? If the Prime that this gimmick becomes was simply a Voyager it would've been a buy on sight instead of another pass.
I'm only getting Rodimus for the Space Winnebago and Hotrod portion that does look like Rodimus.
We've asked for a Voyager class Starscream for over a decade now and after 3 more deluxes and a Leader class Starscream they give us this bulky mess that becomes a combiner that no one asked for.
This Optimus is stunning in person - if nothing else he's worth it for screen-accurate Orion Pax. Powermaster Prime is simply a different dude in my book, but I can see where the fatigue comes in. For better or worse, every single line will have 2-3 mainline Optimus Primes. It's what sells.
I agree with you on Starscream; he'd be fantastic looking if not for the Hulk hands, but that feels like something I'll get used to. So long as the torso has utility elsewhere (and knowing Hasbro, I'm confident it does), I'll grudgingly accept him.
Flashwave wrote:Like I suspect most of the fandom, I would have at least preferred a Voyager Sludge, what Voyagwr does he replace? Because not only are ypu replacing a slot, ypu are replacong a Torso figure for another combiner, which means 4 deluxes, and actually 5 with the vacated Sludge spot, dont have a Torso now. Amd if you make Slag a Voyager too, that takes out ANOTHER Torso guy and orphans 5 more figures. 10 Deluxe dudes is half the line, at that point you might as well scrap the whole combining gimmick altogether. I'm not okay with that just to get a set of pure Dinobots.
(I am sorta okay with a Deluxe Slag, actually, and since Slash is New, there's no scale. Also, the Raptor is sorta a Motorcycle of the Dino world, o the smallwr, faster scale worls for me )
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Flashwave wrote:Was halfway listening to the first half.
My take on the Dinobots:
Volcanicus' shoulders are too wide for the body. Even with the filler hands on the body, the torso is far too wide up top and even the attachment joints are further out from the actual shoulders.
I don't like Sludge's head, the plastic casing that makes the clear plastic effect makes him look like he's still in his plastic packaging. The others are sorta like that too (for me).
megatronus wrote:Flashwave wrote:Like I suspect most of the fandom, I would have at least preferred a Voyager Sludge, what Voyagwr does he replace? Because not only are ypu replacing a slot, ypu are replacong a Torso figure for another combiner, which means 4 deluxes, and actually 5 with the vacated Sludge spot, dont have a Torso now. Amd if you make Slag a Voyager too, that takes out ANOTHER Torso guy and orphans 5 more figures. 10 Deluxe dudes is half the line, at that point you might as well scrap the whole combining gimmick altogether. I'm not okay with that just to get a set of pure Dinobots.
(I am sorta okay with a Deluxe Slag, actually, and since Slash is New, there's no scale. Also, the Raptor is sorta a Motorcycle of the Dino world, o the smallwr, faster scale worls for me )
I honestly don't think 3 Voyagers would have be an issue if they staggered the releases. Besides, this isn't a Combiner line - it's an Everything-But-The-Kitchen-Sink line. They could have stuck with ~2 Combiners, Titan Masters for the remaining Deluxes & Voyagers, and the Evolution gimmick for the Leaders.
So far we've gotten the following TR Voyagers:
-Galvatron
-Sentinel Prime
-Alpha Trion
-Astrotrain
-Blitzwing
-Octone
-Broadside
-Megatron
-Optimus Prime
We have 5 unique molds amongst those - why couldn't we get 3 unique Dinobot Voyagers (or a unique Grimlock and a shared mold for 2 more Voyager Dinobots)?
There are almost definitely design and other considerations that we are not privy to, so I'll go back to looking at the bright side of things.
DeathReviews wrote:To be fair, CW was hardly innocent in that regard. Most of the deluxe figures for CW had plenty of wing, truck, tank and other kibble hanging off the knees, the shoulders and elbows of the gestalts. We end-users just folded and tucked it away as best we could on our own and lived with it. And we will again.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Flashwave wrote:Unique molds or not, they all share the same gimmick, the removable Heads. Primes is very much all the gimmicks ever, but all of the pricepoints that we know of share all the gimmicks. This, like it or not, IS a Combiner line. Thats not its only focus, but it is a supported main gimmick. Darkwing and Dreadwind. Jazz. Moonracer. Dino-awms. All of them have Combiner pegs. And not only that, but all of them have H/F/Chest Armor We only know of 3 Voyagers, and 100% of them are Torsos with feet armor. There's no reason to doubt that Elita will be different. Like it or not, these toys are meant for a combining play aspect.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Oh for sure, from a practical perspective it'd need to be something like that. Heck, even just "hey, here's three finished ideas and a commissioned art piece for each" with the art by one of the regulars like Matere, Musso, or Pitre-Durocher then the fans vote from there. Something more than what Victorion was - though for the record, I really enjoy Victorion and the characterizations IDW has created for them. It has taken a while but I think with Skyburst and Stormclash being more prominent in First Strike, most of the Torchbearers have pretty defined characters. Imagine something closer to that from the start while voting!Flashwave wrote:ScottyP: I have wo words for you on that FanCharacter thing: 4. Chan.
What maybe they could do, was a character built from a pool of a dozen predetermined adjectives. For example, you pick from Heroic, Brave, Smart, Reckless, Brawny, Skittish, etc. So maybe your submission is "Blue, Pickup Truck, Skittish, Heroic, Decepticon" and Hasbro builds a character from that. It's structured enough you can't get another Boaty McBoatface but offers more freedom than we already get
Yeah, I feel like that's the plan here too. From the start of "Phase 2" there's been a pretty constant background theme dealing with Primus, and this can be both a conclusion, climax, and exposition for more cool material dealing with that and the Primes.Flashwave wrote:As to "Where do you go with Unicron", one of the things that I suspect he'll be a stopover point for a much larger "Knights of Cybertron" or "Primes" storyline. Frim Unicron, you go right back into the dynamic of the Primes, sorta Avengers style. But it's also been true that Unicron has always been an etherial being and the Body was just a vessel. In Marvel G1, he and Primus fought on the Astral Planes. In the TFCC comics (which I realize IDW and FunPub did not get along) Unicron was a singular omniversial presence. In TF Prime: Even though Optimus defeated Unicorn's body, Megatron became bound to Unicron's own spark. Even in Predacons Rising, Unicron was contained, not defeated, and youy can find any one of a dozen stories where Unicron's Spark or Essence continues on.
ScottyP wrote:Heck, have a fan vote to choose between Pharma, Rung, or Nickel and watch the fandom civil war begin in earnest excitement in store
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
I'm pretty much right there on the Dinobots, but with an added "hey, they already gave me a perfect Grimlock so new takes are ok" added in. Still not a mind blowing Grimlock, but there have been worse!Ironhidensh wrote:Slag, Snarl, and Swoop look great. All other figures do little or nothing for me.
ScottyP wrote:It's too bad RiD never went full Robot Mafia with Steeljaw's Pack. They even have Clampdown to give 'em the clamps!
ScottyP wrote:I'm pretty much right there on the Dinobots, but with an added "hey, they already gave me a perfect Grimlock so new takes are ok" added in. Still not a mind blowing Grimlock, but there have been worse!Ironhidensh wrote:Slag, Snarl, and Swoop look great. All other figures do little or nothing for me.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
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