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Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:Who do I have to beg to take a pic next to feral rex or herc or a CW combiner so I can make a damn decision already ?

Who are you begging? None of us here have a complete Ordin, that I know of....

The UT guys who seem to be avoiding showing us scale comparison shots...


My theory is they want to get as many pre-orders as possible before revealing a height difference that may turn away some buyers.

There have been pics of Ordin's leg mode next to one of Feral Rex's legs. They seem to be pretty comparable. There's been a lot of pics near other known bots too. It's been good enough for me to bite. *shrug* If you want, I can take a pic of Feral Rex next to Ollie (Wheelie) so you can gauge based on the Ordin and Ollie pic...

[Edit] Here, these might help a little:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

Leader dude is cool, but Cutthroat is a major let down (probably due to nostalgic self-hype). Those wings are puny.

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Rated X wrote:Who do I have to beg to take a pic next to feral rex or herc or a CW combiner so I can make a damn decision already ?

Who are you begging? None of us here have a complete Ordin, that I know of....

The UT guys who seem to be avoiding showing us scale comparison shots...


My theory is they want to get as many pre-orders as possible before revealing a height difference that may turn away some buyers.

There have been pics of Ordin's leg mode next to one of Feral Rex's legs. They seem to be pretty comparable. There's been a lot of pics near other known bots too. It's been good enough for me to bite. *shrug* If you want, I can take a pic of Feral Rex next to Ollie (Wheelie) so you can gauge based on the Ordin and Ollie pic...

[Edit] Here, these might help a little:

Autobot Genocide wrote:

That helps a bit, but it kind of all depends on the Hun-Grr figure. Remember, the Ordin limb bots are the same size as both the Feral Rex and Warbotron limb bots. But Feral Rex's torso Special because it has leg extenders that can give you a the choice of either a classics height or a taller almost Warbotron height. Thats why I need the comparison shot. Im a stickler for scale.

He's gonna be big...not warbatron big(lanky) but MMC on the roids big from the looks of it.
If I commit he would be my largest Gestalt since I'm going for UT Predaking ...but I would need any future Leokaiser release to be larger than this.

So a lot of 3rd party projects/gestalts are finishing up, wonder what the next moves gonna be....MP bandwagon, continue gestalt options, IDW, obscure characters?

Ginrai Minor wrote:He's gonna be big...not warbatron big(lanky) but MMC on the roids big from the looks of it.
If I commit he would be my largest Gestalt since I'm going for UT Predaking ...but I would need any future Leokaiser release to be larger than this.

So a lot of 3rd party projects/gestalts are finishing up, wonder what the next moves gonna be....MP bandwagon, continue gestalt options, IDW, obscure characters?

I'm really hoping for Monstructor and Piranacon, to finish the ten G1 American combiners.

Would rather pay a fraction of that price around $90. Think it's inevitable that HasTak in 2016 will release CW G1 update toys for Predaking, Abonimus and Seacons. Speculating Botcon 2015 or SDCC 2015 or NYCC 2015, will be where Hasbro reveals these toys at.

For the over $500 UT Ording price. Could buy Five of Hasbro's CW gestalts teams worth of toys. CW Superion, CW Menasor, CW Defensor, CW Bruticus and CW Computron.

Tsutsukakushi wrote: For the over $500 UT Ording price. Could buy Five of Hasbro's CW gestalts teams worth of toys. CW Superion, CW Menasor, CW Defensor, CW Bruticus and CW Computron.

And some people would rather buy a Ford Focus than a BMW Series 7. We get it, but this line of thought is better off in another thread that already exists.

http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/did-you-sell-or-stop-buying-some-3rd-party-combiners-due-to-hastak-s-cw-combiners--t103869.php

For now, I just have to decide whether I start collecting Ordin or Warbotron's Combaticons.

Hagen's beast mode is as bad as I was expecting considering it's a remold of Alberich, and the tiny wings don't help either. 'Bot and arm modes are pretty cool looking though.

Siegfried will fit the bill nicely I think, although the 'bot mode face doesn't look particularly evil. What really cooks my noodle is why Unique Toys thought it'd look good to give him and Fenrir such short rear legs when configured properly. They look like they're doing some 'business'.

75 coins to whichever company can fix the legs and wings!

Sodan-1 wrote:Hagen's beast mode is as bad as I was expecting considering it's a remold of Alberich, and the tiny wings don't help either.

He's a remold? For an expensive ass 3P figure, that's LAAAAME.

shajaki wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Hagen's beast mode is as bad as I was expecting considering it's a remold of Alberich, and the tiny wings don't help either.

He's a remold? For an expensive ass 3P figure, that's LAAAAME.

Can't say for sure, but if you take the tail, the wings and the head off then it appears to be essentially the same.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Ginrai Minor wrote:He's gonna be big...not warbatron big(lanky) but MMC on the roids big from the looks of it.
If I commit he would be my largest Gestalt since I'm going for UT Predaking ...but I would need any future Leokaiser release to be larger than this.

So a lot of 3rd party projects/gestalts are finishing up, wonder what the next moves gonna be....MP bandwagon, continue gestalt options, IDW, obscure characters?

I'm really hoping for Monstructor and Piranacon, to finish the ten G1 American combiners.

Totally agree!

shajaki wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Hagen's beast mode is as bad as I was expecting considering it's a remold of Alberich, and the tiny wings don't help either.

He's a remold? For an expensive ass 3P figure, that's LAAAAME.

*coughFeralRexcough*

These darn allergies...

Ginrai Minor wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

Ginrai Minor wrote:He's gonna be big...not warbatron big(lanky) but MMC on the roids big from the looks of it.
If I commit he would be my largest Gestalt since I'm going for UT Predaking ...but I would need any future Leokaiser release to be larger than this.

So a lot of 3rd party projects/gestalts are finishing up, wonder what the next moves gonna be....MP bandwagon, continue gestalt options, IDW, obscure characters?

I'm really hoping for Monstructor and Piranacon, to finish the ten G1 American combiners.

Totally agree!

Hmm.. so this, Warbotron's Computron, and Maketoys defensor is the only 3P combiner not complete right now? I know Warbotron has Menasor they teased but I wonder if they're still making that.. Then FP's Monstructor that no one's seen? I'm wondering if there's going to be anymore announcements after these. Love them or hate them but Hasbro's Combiner Wars at least really did slow these guys down.

Agamemnon wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Hagen's beast mode is as bad as I was expecting considering it's a remold of Alberich, and the tiny wings don't help either.

He's a remold? For an expensive ass 3P figure, that's LAAAAME.

*coughFeralRexcough*

These darn allergies...

*coughDoesntLikeFeralRexcough*

mooncake623 wrote:
Hmm.. so this, Warbotron's Computron, and Maketoys defensor is the only 3P combiner not complete right now? I know Warbotron has Menasor they teased but I wonder if they're still making that.. Then FP's Monstructor that no one's seen? I'm wondering if there's going to be anymore announcements after these. Love them or hate them but Hasbro's Combiner Wars at least really did slow these guys down.

That sounds... about right, especially on Monstructor. Makes a sad kind of sense, too. Monstructor and Piranacon aren't the most well-known of the combiners.

Just wondering why it's okay to buy MP UT Ordin toys. But not okay to buy other MP HasTak and 3rd party MP TF toys.

UT Ordin's team members are all in Masterpiece toy scale.

UT Ordin's team members are not in CHUG scale. CHUG scaled UT Ordin limbs bots would be deluxes not Voyagers. CHUG scale Hun Gurr would be Voyager not Ultra scale.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just wondering why it's okay to buy MP UT Ordin toys. But not okay to buy other MP HasTak and 3rd party MP TF toys.

UT Ordin's team members are all in Masterpiece toy scale.

UT Ordin's team members are not in CHUG scale. CHUG scaled UT Ordin limbs bots would be deluxes not Voyagers. CHUG scale Hun Gurr would be Voyager not Ultra scale.

That's all your subjective opinion.

Do you consider Hercules to be MP scale? Because they're all voyagers, too.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:UT Ordin's team members are all in Masterpiece toy scale.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just wondering why it's okay to buy MP UT Ordin toys. But not okay to buy other MP HasTak and 3rd party MP TF toys.

UT Ordin's team members are all in Masterpiece toy scale.

UT Ordin's team members are not in CHUG scale. CHUG scaled UT Ordin limbs bots would be deluxes not Voyagers. CHUG scale Hun Gurr would be Voyager not Ultra scale.

UT Ordin's team members are all MP toy scale. Voyager sized ordin limbs bots match the toy scale of the HasTak's MP Voyager class cars bots. UT Hun gurr's Ultra toy scale matches the scale of the HasTak MP seekers. All of these characters here have matching scales in the G1 cartoon.

I kinda get Tsu's point. They're MP scaled, but not MP styled? Cause they're almost Warbotron-huge (right?) but sure don't hit the MP aesthetic.

However, I have absolutely no idea what this means:

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just wondering why it's okay to buy MP UT Ordin toys. But not okay to buy other MP HasTak and 3rd party MP TF toys.

Either way, big or small, people will buy what they want for their own reasons. I have my own strange ideas of how I want my combiners to scale, but don't expect everyone else to conform (let alone understand ).

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Just wondering why it's okay to buy MP UT Ordin toys. But not okay to buy other MP HasTak and 3rd party MP TF toys.

UT Ordin's team members are all in Masterpiece toy scale.

UT Ordin's team members are not in CHUG scale. CHUG scaled UT Ordin limbs bots would be deluxes not Voyagers. CHUG scale Hun Gurr would be Voyager not Ultra scale.

As soon as I get the whole set I'll take a photo of them posing among my classics collection and then await the reports of your head exploding.

*ahem*






(If anything, these guys might be under-sized for classics... )

Agamemnon wrote:*ahem*






(If anything, these guys might be under-sized for classics... )

And one internet point to Agamemnon.

But yeah, look at my sig for my view on scale overall. I just want these two. I've really, really liked the line so far and I want my Abominus!

From what I've seen, the chestplate does absolutely nothing outside of combined mode.

That's just inexcusable on a 3P toy from 2015. Instant pass.