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News Credits: 2 · by **SureShot18** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:34 am

Urge to preorder rising....

News Credits: 4 · by **Munkky** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:31 pm

I love the colour scheme on Lio Convoy, it looks so much better than Alpha Trion, though I do plan to pick up both versions of the mould. *Tracer voice* The world could always use more Maximals. Or Cybertrons, whatever.

News Credits: 8 · by **Autobot Roadburn** » Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:56 pm

Preordered him. Hopefully I can afford him when he comes out, that color scheme looks fantastic and I already really like the Sentinel head sculpt.

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:20 am

From Takara:

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:17 am

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

News Credits: 385 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:21 am

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

Best "Supreme Commander's Day" photo op ever.

News Credits: 33 · by **Logan.** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:02 am

In (my) hand: IMHO simply the best TR/LG into these two waves

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:52 am

Logan, I've got this sneaking suspicion that you really like Blurr. I can't quite put my finger on why, but my gut is usually right on these things.

News Credits: 33 · by **Logan.** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:20 am

Wolfman

, I Super love Hardhead, but about overall quality, IMHO:

1 LG Blurr
2 LG/TR Hardhead
3 TR/LG Wolfwire/Weirdwolf

News Credits: 253 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:43 pm

Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

News Credits: 3189 · by **william-james88** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:10 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:22 pm

william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

I'd like to see as well. I own a vintage GaoGaiGar, but I really don't see any connection between the two.

Unless it was just a bad joke.

Emerje

News Credits: 385 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Oct 15, 2016 11:29 pm

Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

I'd like to see as well. I own a vintage GaoGaiGar, but I really don't see any connection between the two.

Unless it was just a bad joke.

Emerje

Preeeeeeeeeetty sure he was just making a joke, yes.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:59 am

william-james88 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Infinitus is being used because the little robot head looks the closest to GaoGaiGar, whose central robot mode, Gai Gar, is being homaged by Legends Lio Prime. You're welcome.

This is all japanese to me, care to show us some images to show what you are talking about?

Hang on, I got this one.

GaiGar

GaoGaiGar

Legends Lio Convoy

Yeah I'm veering on the side of joke. Nicely done, though!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:08 am

Well, three versions of Leo Prime were redecos/retools of molds inspired by Galeon/Gaigar:

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 1:46 am

Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:11 am

King Kuuga wrote:Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

It's chuck's personal opinion. Does not necessarily mean it's true. If you ask me, it's the TF Go! Samurai/Ninja team combiner that looks more like Gaogaigar.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 12:42 pm

King Kuuga wrote:Two of those are homaging the original Lio Convoy toy, and I find his homaging of GaiGar dubious at best. Is it officially documented somewhere that that's who he's based on? I know the timeframe adds up, GaoGaiGar airing in 1997 and Beast Wars II in '98. GGG was a pretty wild success so i wouldn't put it past Takara to homage their own property, but Lio Convoy also has a ton of red on his torso that GaiGar doesn't, which is what makes me question the resemblance.

The Cybertron line drew plenty of inspiration from that particular series, like Hot Shot's transformation being partially based on Volfogg, Super Optimus Prime's helmet having a similar shape to Gaogaigar's, and Leobreaker is said to be based on Galeon (that's what I was going for in my previous post). Lio Convoy himself is probably based more on Leo from Jungle Emperor aka Kimba the White Lion.

News Credits: 253 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:42 pm

I was half joking, half serious. Basically, the white lion with gold is where the similarities end. I didn't know just how much Cybertron was influenced by GGG. I knew Armada Prime's move in the cartoon was based on Heaven and Hell, but that can go on, and on.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:05 pm

Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:08 pm

I'm not 100% sure on this but isn't the whole cult of the white lion down to some famous white lion in a Japanese Zoo ?

That is why White lions pop up so much (also as a Battle Beast)- as well as in Bandai lines too quite often - likewise white tigers.

Sort of like the reasons Magmatron has such a odd choice of creature alt modes is because they are ones linked to some saurus skeleton in the 1990's japan was big on Meglosaurus it may even be why Metroplex was called Megloconvoy too.

There may be some greater cultural significance to white cats that I am not aware of though that may be common knowledge to a native Japanese person.
Heck perhaps they are even linking things to the Lucky cat statues they have in Asian so much.

News Credits: 3189 · by **william-james88** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:09 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Which would be a very doable with the Sky Shadow mold.

News Credits: 385 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:34 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas

Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

News Credits: 3 · by **Decepticon Stryker** » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:55 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Now that that's settled, back to the thread:

Cyberpath wrote:From Takara:

All we're missing is Dai Atlas
Are there any G1 Optimus Prime or G1 Rodimus Prime (preferably not Hot Rod) toys that are of equivalent robot mode height to that Fortress figure?

Titanium series Rodimus might be that size. That's my best guess.