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[Jelze Bunnycat]

I've been waiting for a proper Rodimus for nearly 7 years

All joking aside, Classics Rod is limited but ok, TR is pretty great, and MP-28 is an absolute dream

But the problem there is that those are all Hot Rods and none of them are Rodimus toys. The only full bodied Rodimus toys we got were the G1 version, Titanium and MP 09.

There was this Rodimus Prime-colored released in United:



Best of both worlds? Nah.

[Skritz]

If anyone has it in hand: how well could Voyager Screamer make a Leozack? It seem, at least at a glance, that he'd have plenty of space for new 3d-printed heads. Asking because I found a Combiner Wars Liokaiser boxset for (relatively) cheap.

I mean, to my knowledge its far too early for such pieces to exist (and be available) but still...

Edit: And nevermind, those actually do exist already, albeit for Cyclonus. Neat!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I think Starscream does not fit the slender form that is Liokaiser, because of his width in Torso Mode:



Did you know he pulls a Silverbolt btw?

[Va'al]

We receive news from Instagram and Twitter user Optimarcus, who contacted us on our social media platforms, that Canada was not in fact the second country to see the mass retail release of the new Transformers Power of the Primes toyline - but in fact third, as Singapore has seen the full first wave of Prime Masters, Legends, Deluxes and Voyagers already as of last week! The images below show the figures found at independent toy retailer Robo Robo, with Prime Masters found at 10-20 S$ (7-14 USD), Legends Skrapnel, Slash, Windcharger, Beachcomber at 15-25 S$ (18 USD max) Deluxe Dreadwind, Jazz, Swoop and Slug priced between 30-40 S$ (30 USD max), and Grimlock and Starscream at 50-65 S$ (cap of 48 USD) each. We do not have confirmed prices at the time of writing.

As we wrote for the Canada story, however, do note that the leader class figures, Rodimus Prime and Optimus Prime, have yet to be found anywhere so please let us know if you find them. You can also post your findings in the Sightings section and Sightings forums in the Energon Pub.

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[Flashwave]

Following the Hot Tip about the Legends in the Stocking Stuffer section, I tracked them down in my Walmart and canceled my Amazon Pre-Order. I picked up Beachcomber and Slash, whom I had pre-ordered, and windcharger, whom I was initially going to Pass on.

Like most of you, I boo'd Windcharger because of his head, which in stock photos looks like its just painted on a flat block. In person, his face does actually have some distinctive depth to it. The vehicle mode is cool and the transformation is stable while still hollow in the middle for a driver, unlike the floppy Wheelie. He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure. The head is not great, and I Windcharger is not a character I get Jazzed about, but I am all and all glad I had added him to the collection. He'll be different from my CHUG Tailgate (I never got the windcharger redeco of that)

Slash is a fun little Dino, but she's extremely thin compared to all of her wave mates. The Swivel Joints on mine's thighs are tighter than the hall joints, so when I transform her I keep wrenching the legs off the hips. Excited about a new Dinobot character though. And a light, fast "Motorcycle" Dinobot like Slash is a nice juxtipose to the heavy armored "Tank" Dinobots. To be Honest, I was more hoping for a Scorn, I prefer Movie Scorn's figure to Movie Slash's, but to each their own.

I do however think Beachcomber is my favorite. Not because of the character or having his G1 figure, but we don't have many Dune Buggy TFs, and I love a "relative Scale." Big guys are big, small guys are small, alt modes are relatively close. Beach Comber is a small bot, an his alt mode is somewhat smaller than the Deluxe Cars, like a Dune Buggy should be. But he also has a Stocky Robot mode and feels like a figure who is close to worth the $10 price point for no more than he is.

[chuckdawg1999]

I think Hasbro learned from Wheelie and designed these legends with a dedicated cockpit.

[gothsaurus]

If it helps those searching, I found the Wal Mart red bin OUTSIDE my Wal Mart (ie. in the garden section awning-covered section among gift wrap, nerf guns, etc.)

I'd chime in to say the designs of these toys are fantastic. They look very G1 and the transformations are clever, not too simple. The new female dinobot is a welcome new character with design so consistent to the style and feel of the original toys that it fits right in. Bravo Hasbro/Takara.

On the down side, the paint was the worst I've seen in YEARS. I literally culled through the entire bin trying just to find one each of each toy without a glaring paint mishap. Some had globs on their face, a swash of bright blue eye color across the side of the head, chips out of the chest, or black marred areas on the silver of the dino legs.

I ended up buying TWO Windchargers to attempt to assemble a complete, decent-looking one out of two... because none had a passable chest AND face together on the same toy.

Bottom line, give them a good looking over before you buy. Quality control on paint is very lacking.

[Super Megatron]

I was really skeptical about getting Prime when I first saw the promo pics, but after seeing this new review, I really love how Hasbro managed to incorporate Hot Rod and Prime into one figure.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Oh my gosh, guys!!! I just realized something!!! Grimlock's enigma of combination would go perfectly with TLK Nitro to make him a Shockwave!!!!

Doesn't Nitro already basically have a Shockwave head?


Shockwave on the left, Nitro Zeus on the right.

Emerje

Ok, maybe a different version of a Shockwave that would still be really cool

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So here's Grimlock's enigma on Titans Return Nitro and Titans Return Cogman. Head doesn't turn!

Thanks for doing this! While Cogman doesn't really work, Nitro Zeus actually really works with that to me

[Flashwave]

I think Starscream does not fit the slender form that is Liokaiser, because of his width in Torso Mode:



Did you know he pulls a Silverbolt btw?

To me, assomeone who has the Hasbro set, I would be okay with the proportions, but I need enough to be different. Jarguar and the hlicopter dude, for example, that would make the set less like a repeat of the Hasbro limbs

[steals_your_goats]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

[Rodimus Knight]

I'm disappointed to see that there is apparently nothing to do with the Trailer when it's not being used for either Rodimus Mode.

[Bucky]

On the down side, the paint was the worst I've seen in YEARS. I literally culled through the entire bin trying just to find one each of each toy without a glaring paint mishap. Some had globs on their face, a swash of bright blue eye color across the side of the head, chips out of the chest, or black marred areas on the silver of the dino legs.

Yeah, my deluxes came from TRU today, and I was surprised that my Dreadwind has paint splatters all around his head and face, and quite a lot of excess plastic that I needed to cut away. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before on a transformer.

[Wolfman Jake]

I'm disappointed to see that there is apparently nothing to do with the Trailer when it's not being used for either Rodimus Mode.

Were you hoping for a base mode too, a la the G1 toy? I think that was sacrificed for the "evolution" gimmick this time. It would probably be hard to work a base into the trailers for Optimus and Hot Rod if they also have to be "armor" pieces to add to a separate deluxe figure that look enough like their G1 selves as well as being convincing trailers in alt mode. I know Titans Return was able to do base modes with their leader figures, but honestly, those were pretty iffy at best.

[WreckerJack]

I think my top pick would be Jazz. I'm diggin' Swoop's mohawk too.

There is something suspiciously familiar about Dreadwind's colors...

[Flashwave]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

5 years ago.

[Mindmaster]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

5 years ago.

More like eight years ago.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

5 years ago.

More like eight years ago.

Try 10 years.

[william-james88]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

5 years ago.

More like eight years ago.

Try 10 years.

Yeah, it was 10 years ago. And we have it better than most. I remember Marvel legends being 10$ and now its nuts, especially for what you get. I remember their build a figure being Galactus and a Sentinel, not another 6 inch figure.

But this is all pointless really. What is the use of comparing to prices from another time when the dollar was worth more and people were paid less?

In reality, Transformers have not increased in their prices compared to what they went for in the 80s when they first came out. They were actually more expensive then with seekers being $15 in 1984, which is $35 today.

That means having all 3 seekers would mean a parent spends the equivalent of $100 for their kid. Thats a **** ton of money for parents trying to make ends meet with a mortgage and kids on just 3 airplanes that look the same. Whoever had 3 seekers growing up in the 80s is luckier then they could ever realize.

So once again, there is little to no point in this comparison.

[Emerje]

Yeah, it was 10 years ago. And we have it better than most. I remember Marvel legends being 10$ and now its nuts, especially for what you get. I remember their build a figure being Galactus and a Sentinel, not another 6 inch figure.

That's about as good an example as any of the difference between licensing your characters and making your own. Marvel Legends' higher prices and smaller BAFs are a direct result of the higher license fees that came with their exploding popularity. Meanwhile Transformers don't have a licensing fee (outside of the occasional car) so what they want to do is only limited by how much they want to charge us.

Emerje

[Targetmaster Kup]

Oil costs are higher now too, and oil is where we get plastic from.

[TF-fan kev777]

He's a good size too for being a (Deluxe priced) Legends figure.

What do you mean by this? Where are deluxe figures $10?

5 years ago.

More like eight years ago.

Try 10 years.

Yeah, it was 10 years ago. And we have it better than most. I remember Marvel legends being 10$ and now its nuts, especially for what you get. I remember their build a figure being Galactus and a Sentinel, not another 6 inch figure.

But this is all pointless really. What is the use of comparing to prices from another time when the dollar was worth more and people were paid less?

In reality, Transformers have not increased in their prices compared to what they went for in the 80s when they first came out. They were actually more expensive then with seekers being $15 in 1984, which is $35 today.

That means having all 3 seekers would mean a parent spends the equivalent of $100 for their kid. Thats a **** ton of money for parents trying to make ends meet with a mortgage and kids on just 3 airplanes that look the same. Whoever had 3 seekers growing up in the 80s is luckier then they could ever realize.

So once again, there is little to no point in this comparison.

Um, I got the Wave 3 TR deluxes at Target last year before Christmas for $10 each. That was their sale in late November/early December and I was lucky enough to snag them at $10 each before those pegs went unfilled for the next 5 months. But this is the exception rather than the rule.

[Emerje]

Oil costs are higher now too, and oil is where we get plastic from.

Oil prices have dropped considerably in recent years so theoretically plastic should be cheaper than it was 10 years ago.



Emerje

[Skritz]

Yeah, it was 10 years ago. And we have it better than most. I remember Marvel legends being 10$ and now its nuts, especially for what you get. I remember their build a figure being Galactus and a Sentinel, not another 6 inch figure.

That's about as good an example as any of the difference between licensing your characters and making your own. Marvel Legends' higher prices and smaller BAFs are a direct result of the higher license fees that came with their exploding popularity. Meanwhile Transformers don't have a licensing fee (outside of the occasional car) so what they want to do is only limited by how much they want to charge us.

Emerje

Aren't Transformers costlier to design/build/assemble due to all the smaller pieces that move to allow for transformations, compared to a simpler action figure with only a few points of articulation?

[o.supreme]

That means having all 3 seekers would mean a parent spends the equivalent of $100 for their kid. Thats a **** ton of money for parents trying to make ends meet with a mortgage and kids on just 3 airplanes that look the same. Whoever had 3 seekers growing up in the 80s is luckier then they could ever realize.

So once again, there is little to no point in this comparison.

True, I remember being the "poor" kid, though my grandparents did spoil a bit, being one of only two grandchildren. Unfortunately I had friends with parents who were generally more well-off than myself, so yeah, they got all the cool toys. Transformers were more expensive to be sure when compared with todays prices, but they were also made of much higher quality materials overall, especially they 1984-1986 lines. Definitely made of "sterner stuff" .