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Nemesis Primal wrote:I mean, they planned for Siege Magnus and Hound to be GUOP and Hot Shot from the start, Hot Rod doesn't exactly have another pre-existing retool, and Netflix Soundwave had not only the retooling to give himself a new alt mode but also retooled cassettes (and this line is supposed to be the replacement for the Netflix line), so I could see it.Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Here's an drawing posted by a fan showing how it might work from the Hot Rod mold, just to give an idea.
That seems like it would require an awful lot of retooling to work, more so than most exclusives get. Sure, Netflix Soundwave got a lot of retooling, but can you really compare the popularity of Soundwave (a mold that was already used twice prior) and Override? Then there's Fangry, but again they used that mold so many times they probably already had all the parts tooled just waiting to be used. Can't imagine they planned to reuse Hot Rod as Override from the start.
Emerje
Nemesis Primal wrote:Also I linked to this image back in the early days of this thread, and I still stand by my stance that I would be happy with this if it's what we get.
Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might.
Oh crud. I made a typo. I meant to type "robot mode", not "altmode". It's fixed now in the original post.Rodimus Prime wrote:A dragon that turns into a semi truck. Fun idea, probably works on screen even. I doubt it'll be a good toy.Sabrblade wrote:I feel like Scourge may possibly already be accounted for in ROTB Scourge since, while he turns into a truck, his altmode is said to look like a cross between those of Cybertron Scourge and Prime Predaking, with the addition of smokestacks.Wolfman Jake wrote:Since we’re getting Megalo Convoy (Metroplex) and Nitro Convoy (Override), I wouldn’t be surprised if we got the other Galaxy Force planet leaders too. Maybe Flame Convoy (Scourge) could be a retool of Transmetal 2 Megatron, but how could Hasbro and Takara do Life Convoy (Evac)?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might. Unless they do with override what they did with Hot Rod and pack a deluxe figure into a voyager box with a bunch of extra crap.
The listing literally said "voyager." Until Hasbro comes out and says otherwise, that will continue to mean the next size above deluxe as it has been for over a decade now. You can use SS86 Hot Rod as your example, but so far he's the exception to the rule. Let's see them do it a few more times before it should be accepted as the norm. And I understand it's not about the size of the actual figure but the resources that said figure required, whether material or engineering. But when a listing says "voyager" I think "size between deluxe and leader." And we don't need to have a debate on it, because it won't change my mind. Just accept that I see it differently than you, and let's move on please.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might. Unless they do with override what they did with Hot Rod and pack a deluxe figure into a voyager box with a bunch of extra crap.
No one said voyager sized, which isnt really a thing anymore, it's all about price points. And all that confirmed here is the voyager price point. Also, it isn't the extra crap which gave Hot Rod his pricepoint, it was his parts count (complexity). The extra crap is just Hasbro giving you a visual cue to maybe help you come to terms with the price, even if it's not the biggest contributing factor.
Rodimus Prime wrote:The listing literally said "voyager." Until Hasbro comes out and says otherwise, that will continue to mean the next size above deluxe as it has been for over a decade now. You can use SS86 Hot Rod as your example, but so far he's the exception to the rule. Let's see them do it a few more times before it should be accepted as the norm. And I understand it's not about the size of the actual figure but the resources that said figure required, whether material or engineering. But when a listing says "voyager" I think "size between deluxe and leader." And we don't need to have a debate on it, because it won't change my mind. Just accept that I see it differently than you, and let's move on please.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might. Unless they do with override what they did with Hot Rod and pack a deluxe figure into a voyager box with a bunch of extra crap.
No one said voyager sized, which isnt really a thing anymore, it's all about price points. And all that confirmed here is the voyager price point. Also, it isn't the extra crap which gave Hot Rod his pricepoint, it was his parts count (complexity). The extra crap is just Hasbro giving you a visual cue to maybe help you come to terms with the price, even if it's not the biggest contributing factor.
william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:The listing literally said "voyager." Until Hasbro comes out and says otherwise, that will continue to mean the next size above deluxe as it has been for over a decade now. You can use SS86 Hot Rod as your example, but so far he's the exception to the rule. Let's see them do it a few more times before it should be accepted as the norm. And I understand it's not about the size of the actual figure but the resources that said figure required, whether material or engineering. But when a listing says "voyager" I think "size between deluxe and leader." And we don't need to have a debate on it, because it won't change my mind. Just accept that I see it differently than you, and let's move on please.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might. Unless they do with override what they did with Hot Rod and pack a deluxe figure into a voyager box with a bunch of extra crap.
No one said voyager sized, which isnt really a thing anymore, it's all about price points. And all that confirmed here is the voyager price point. Also, it isn't the extra crap which gave Hot Rod his pricepoint, it was his parts count (complexity). The extra crap is just Hasbro giving you a visual cue to maybe help you come to terms with the price, even if it's not the biggest contributing factor.
What does leader class mean to you then?
Voyager is a price point not a size. They're usually a general size, yes, but they don't necessarily have to beRodimus Prime wrote:The listing literally said "voyager." Until Hasbro comes out and says otherwise, that will continue to mean the next size above deluxe as it has been for over a decade now. You can use SS86 Hot Rod as your example, but so far he's the exception to the rule. Let's see them do it a few more times before it should be accepted as the norm. And I understand it's not about the size of the actual figure but the resources that said figure required, whether material or engineering. But when a listing says "voyager" I think "size between deluxe and leader." And we don't need to have a debate on it, because it won't change my mind. Just accept that I see it differently than you, and let's move on please.william-james88 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it's going to be voyager-sized then Hot Rod wouldn't work anyway, but Kingdom Rodimus might. Unless they do with override what they did with Hot Rod and pack a deluxe figure into a voyager box with a bunch of extra crap.
No one said voyager sized, which isnt really a thing anymore, it's all about price points. And all that confirmed here is the voyager price point. Also, it isn't the extra crap which gave Hot Rod his pricepoint, it was his parts count (complexity). The extra crap is just Hasbro giving you a visual cue to maybe help you come to terms with the price, even if it's not the biggest contributing factor.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
You left out the one between Ultra and Supreme that Optimal Optimus and Primal Prime (and later RiD'01 Optimus, Ultra Magnus, and Scourge) were sold as: Super.Emerje wrote:Beast Wars did it best (and to a lesser degree Cyberverse), each price point sounds a little more impressive than the last. Something like this: Basic > Deluxe > Mega (Voyager) > Ultra (Leader) > Supreme (Commander) > Ultimate (Titan). "Leader Astrotrain" and "Commander Sky Lynx" don't sound nearly as cool and enticing as "Ultra Astrotrain" and "Supreme Sky Lynx" to me.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:You left out the one between Ultra and Supreme that Optimal Optimus and Primal Prime (and later RiD'01 Optimus, Ultra Magnus, and Scourge) were sold as: Super.Emerje wrote:Beast Wars did it best (and to a lesser degree Cyberverse), each price point sounds a little more impressive than the last. Something like this: Basic > Deluxe > Mega (Voyager) > Ultra (Leader) > Supreme (Commander) > Ultimate (Titan). "Leader Astrotrain" and "Commander Sky Lynx" don't sound nearly as cool and enticing as "Ultra Astrotrain" and "Supreme Sky Lynx" to me.
Emerje
I'd probably equate the BW/BM/RiD'01 Super class to Commander class since the Supremes were even more massive than the likes of Jetfire, Sky Lynx, Rodimus, and even the CW Combiners (plus, Kingdom Rodimus is very reminiscent of RID'01 Scourge being a smaller but well-engineered figure with a very complex trailer).Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You left out the one between Ultra and Supreme that Optimal Optimus and Primal Prime (and later RiD'01 Optimus, Ultra Magnus, and Scourge) were sold as: Super.Emerje wrote:Beast Wars did it best (and to a lesser degree Cyberverse), each price point sounds a little more impressive than the last. Something like this: Basic > Deluxe > Mega (Voyager) > Ultra (Leader) > Supreme (Commander) > Ultimate (Titan). "Leader Astrotrain" and "Commander Sky Lynx" don't sound nearly as cool and enticing as "Ultra Astrotrain" and "Supreme Sky Lynx" to me.
Emerje
I was really just sticking with Beast Wars classes and equating them to modern one plus reusing some others to fill in the larger classes. Problem with Super was that Hasbro would then use it for the Deluxe class in Armada (Mini-Con, Super-Con, Max-Con, Giga-Con). Of course they also had Super Base in the same line just to really make things confusing...
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Not all superheroes wear tights and capes.Emerje wrote:I suppose, though I don't really like the sound of "super" in Transformers since it's so tied to superheroes these days. "Super Optimus Prime" just makes me think of Optimus in a cape and tights now.
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah I hope it's not yet another G1 Blurr. Otherwise none if these really interest me besides Cosmos. More for everyone else.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah I hope it's not yet another G1 Blurr. Otherwise none if these really interest me besides Cosmos. More for everyone else.
So the rumor has been specifically Armada Blurr (NOT the Cybertron Blurr shown above) since this line was first rumored, but judging by what is occurring in the TFW thread these EAN numbers came from, right now there is (sadly) a non-zero chance of it being a Toy Colors G1 Blurr instead (even though I cannot tell what difference in deco that would make), since some of the leakers have clarified that none of them have seen the actual figure, but one of them has a single source that is claiming it's the G1 option with no one else confirming or denying it, while Hasbro Singapore is internally using a picture of Armada Blurr to represent the figure (which is why the rumor was given that it's Armada Blurr).Overcracker wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah I hope it's not yet another G1 Blurr. Otherwise none if these really interest me besides Cosmos. More for everyone else.
I believe that Blurr is referring to this guy:
Transformers Cybertron Blurr Gallery
Transformers Cybertron Blurr Gallery
As he was a “Velocitanian”.
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