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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:27 am

Wow, that looks bad, I could never see myself paying $80+ for that mess, and I know it's a small nitpick and it may not be "show accurate" ( :roll:

) but the rims aren't even painted, which is a small detail that never fails to bug me

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:45 am

kinda looks like he might have some serious backpack-age there. hard to tell. will reserve judgement until we get full reveals and see what all he comes with.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:08 am

FYI - I think this article is linked to the wrong thread. It should be linked to the Kingdom thread instead of the beast wars reissues thread.

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:09 am

I want to see how they end up justifying the commander class for him. Rodimus Prime robot should be a voyager size or what had been voyager size with a trailer. That should make him a leader class, lets be honest. So what can they add to get $30 worth of accessories.

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:23 am

Rodimus Knight wrote:I want to see how they end up justifying the commander class for him. Rodimus Prime robot should be a voyager size or what had been voyager size with a trailer. That should make him a leader class, lets be honest. So what can they add to get $30 worth of accessories.

SECONDED. this has been burning in my head a lot.

some theories:
planetary destruction device. for when things get to hard, just blow it all up :-D

those that remember season 3 will get that joke

jokes aside, I can't imagine any accessories that would go with Rodimus Prime that we didn't already get with Hot Rod. At least, nothing that would justify a voyager sized figure at a commander class point. Even if you added Spike and Daniel.

on that note, maybe there is more then one figure. I once fiddled with designing a Roddy trailer that turned into Star Convoy.

So it must come down to the trailer, and if so, that better be one HELL of a trailer. Like, 24k gold inlays for the flames or something. idk

News Credits: 4 · by **Quantum Surge** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:31 am

There better be additional figures or a huge amount of accessories to use in this figure, especially with modern TFs trying so hard to stretch their price justification.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:45 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:FYI - I think this article is linked to the wrong thread. It should be linked to the Kingdom thread instead of the beast wars reissues thread.

Oh, I'm very aware. I have asked for assistance in the best way to solve it.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:03 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looks decent, except they seem to have done the damn faux-parts chest thing again sigh.

Take another look. I think the robot mode chest IS the legitimate car front end and hood. The window canopy/windshield connects into those rectangular slots near the top of the chest, hiding the robot mode kibble above the flame design on the hood while in car mode. You can even see from the side the same slight change in angle in car mode where it is in robot mode just below the "collarbone." The flame designs look slightly different, but you can tell upon closer inspection that it's only because the top two "horns" of the flame pattern are cut off in car mode and only visible in robot mode.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:25 am

ZeroWolf wrote:The following picture it's self comes from twitter user, @hotconvoy, who doesn't offer a source for the picture.

Here is the original source - https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3972771262784359&id=932973100097539

Also features Studio Series Bumblebee w/ Sam and Top Gun Maverick.

News Credits: 2 · by **Rodimus Knight** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:38 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:
Rodimus Knight wrote:I want to see how they end up justifying the commander class for him. Rodimus Prime robot should be a voyager size or what had been voyager size with a trailer. That should make him a leader class, lets be honest. So what can they add to get $30 worth of accessories.

SECONDED. this has been burning in my head a lot.

some theories:
planetary destruction device. for when things get to hard, just blow it all up

those that remember season 3 will get that joke

jokes aside, I can't imagine any accessories that would go with Rodimus Prime that we didn't already get with Hot Rod. At least, nothing that would justify a voyager sized figure at a commander class point. Even if you added Spike and Daniel.

on that note, maybe there is more then one figure. I once fiddled with designing a Roddy trailer that turned into Star Convoy.

So it must come down to the trailer, and if so, that better be one HELL of a trailer. Like, 24k gold inlays for the flames or something. idk

I was watching PrimevsPrime talk about this leak. It finally hit me, that it looks like Rodimus Prime is going to be a retool of the studio series hot rod, transofrming back into a car mode, with a trailer hook up like the power of the primes Rodimus. I don't want that.

If you were going to make the robot mode have a full independent vehicle mode, it should be something like a truck, like either a lower rider pick-up truck or a flat bed truck. Retooling the Studio Series Hot Rod is a mistake and makes even less sense making it a commander class.

I agree with PrimevsPrime when he suggested a Transmetal dragon megatron would have been a better choice for commander class.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:46 am

Guys, this was posted in the wrong thread by mistake. This is the Beast Wars vintage reissues thread. The Commander Rodimus news has been moved to the Kingdom thread.

(The news post linking to this thread still needs to be fixed, though)

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:48 am

Wrong thread. Also, not treating it as a rumor.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:50 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looks decent, except they seem to have done the damn faux-parts chest thing again sigh.

However, I think it's too soon to tell if this is the real deal or a fake or mockup using bits from SS86 and PotP Roddy. If it is real, then they definitely used PotP Roddy's CAD files to make the Photon Eliminator Rifle.

EDIT: Why not a Decepticon Commander class to go with Scorponok, you ask? Because it's the 35th anniversary of the movie, not the 35th anniversary of Masterforce (I maintain that we need a Commander-class do-over of Overlord - he's the perfect Decepticon candidate for the class). Also, Scorponok was last year's Titan - this year's is the Ark Titan they made up for this line.

They could maybe have squeezed him out at Leader-class, but it would likely have resulted in a less-good robot and a camper shell battle station comparable in quality to ER Optimus' trailer base. And possibly a likewise-undersize vehicle mode. And don't forget that he has to be able to go toe-to-toe with Kingdom Galvatron (who we still haven't seen).

I don't think he has the faux chest.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:56 am

Well if this Rodimus outdoes the POTP version then I have yet another figure to replace! 8-|

I think if :HASBRO:

/

were smart they should give this new version some kind of huge double barrel cannon that reveals from the trailer just like his G1 counterpart...'nuff said! ;)^

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:59 am

Whether the pics are legit or not, there is just no justification for this in my mind. It may be indeed a scaled down Masterpiece for Rodimus Prime which would indeed be the definitive version of that character in recent years however.... Even though we only have 2 previous CC toys, a pattern has been set of expectation of a larger Transformers character with lots of detail and extras, not a normal sized one. Star Saber/Victory Saber, Deathsaurus, Armada Tidal Wave, heck even BW TM2 Megatron or Optimal Optimus would be toys I could see rendered/ valued at CC. While this Rodimus Prime toy will no doubt be perfect for fans of that character, to me all I see is wasted opportunity missing out on another large Transformer well overdue for an update. I've joked about this before, but if the pattern kept going you could eventually get a Micromaster set, just sold with 7 other sets of Micromasters, and call that "Commander Class".

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 10:59 am

Oh look, Rodimus has a sword. How convenient that he comes with one and Grimlock doesn’t.... :-?

Looks amazing though, finally a good Rodimus Prime that’s (supposedly) in scale with a concurrent Ultra Magnus and (I assume) Galvatron. I’m confident he’ll come with the trailer, but I’m curious as to what other gear or gimmicks he’ll come with to justify the Commander price point.

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:02 am

bacem wrote:This surprisingly works.

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....Damn dude!!! ;)^

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:03 am

Mindmaster wrote:Oh look, Rodimus has a sword. How convenient that he comes with one and Grimlock doesn’t....

Looks amazing though, finally a good Rodimus Prime that’s (supposedly) in scale with a concurrent Ultra Magnus and (I assume) Galvatron. I’m confident he’ll come with the trailer, but I’m curious as to what other gear or gimmicks he’ll come with to justify the Commander price point.

Grimlock doesn't have a sword because he didn't have a sword in the movie.

Rodimus' sword looks like the Matrix Sword from Regeneration One.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 am

Well, Rodimus looks... Fine? Hoping when we get an actual reveal (I assume Friday??) it'll look better, but as is he's not wow-ing me like I thought he would

News Credits: 2 · by **Nemesis Destron** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:12 am

Why the hell couldn't they have just kept Rodimus Prime a part of the Studio Series '86 line to give us a great figure just like Hot Rod :???:

Maybe that was just too much to ask.

Well if this Rodimus outdoes the POTP version then I have yet another figure to replace! 8-|

I think if :HASBRO:

/

were smart they should give this new version some kind of huge double barrel cannon that reveals from the trailer just like his G1 counterpart...'nuff said! ;)^

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:15 am

Looks like no love for the Decepticons with any of the Commander class so far!

I think a Commander Class "Sludge" would be great. As an apatosaur, he's SUPPOSED to be bigger than Grimlock, even if he isn't the leader of the Dinobots...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:15 am

Leaked tidbits about Kingdom Galvatron:

Galvatron IS GLORIOUS. I cannot wait for it to reach everyone
He has the matrix chain ( all plastic ) and 2 mini grey Revenge ( Galvatron ship ) That can be display with Unicron or pegged together to form a circular gun.
No backpack. So clean. Shoulder sit a big low but not like Kup. The bulk is crazy , very hefty. Transformation is satisfying. Tread sit behind his bicep.
I *bleep*ing love him.

all silver face , still has goatee but all silver. It's a mixture of Megatron Siege with Big Red eye and Earthrise mouth. Good looking, a mild angry face.

He is nearly as tall as Magnus and taller than Cyclonus.

This one has a static matrix chain which is molded in a hanging shape that fit the torso shape of Galvatron. It even has peg to hang onto Cannon mode.

The Titan Rturn purple but more matte and robust
Has slight printed lilac battle damage on front torso and forearm. He also has printed gloss orange on his plasma cannon.

(when asked more about the cannon's paint)
it's not fully painted. Still clear orange from half to the tip , the rest has that glowy painted orange. In hand it looks good.

Oh , he is much taller than Earthrise Meg.
Also his cannon can be placed both on his bicep and his forearm , to your liking

(when asked about the similarity to Titans Return Galvatron)
they share nothing. Completely new
To say it short, He is scarely close to Fanstoys Sovereign. No kibble, Clean back.

very close to this , with Black tread.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:15 am

Nemesis Destron wrote:Why the hell couldn't they have just kept Rodimus Prime a part of the Studio Series '86 line to give us a great figure just like Hot Rod Maybe that was just too much to ask.

Well if this Rodimus outdoes the POTP version then I have yet another figure to replace!

I think if / were smart they should give this new version some kind of huge double barrel cannon that reveals from the trailer just like his G1 counterpart...'nuff said!

Supposedly that's why this Rodimus is Commander class. This only shows his robot and car mode, not his full vehicle mode though, and according to Appolux and Phamduc on TFW Rodimus'll have a fully featured trailer with the cannon and such

News Credits: 20 · by **Tuned Agent** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:21 am

If this is real, it looks decent. Great to see that Rodimus has a real chest. I'm not sure why the pics don't include the trailer, but it better be a nice trailer, because what's pictured definitely isn't worth $80.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:21 am

o.supreme wrote:Whether the pics are legit or not, there is just no justification for this in my mind. It may be indeed a scaled down Masterpiece for Rodimus Prime which would indeed be the definitive version of that character in recent years however.... Even though we only have 2 previous CC toys, a pattern has been set of expectation of a larger Transformers character with lots of detail and extras, not a normal sized one. Star Saber/Victory Saber, Deathsaurus, Armada Tidal Wave, heck even BW TM2 Megatron or Optimal Optimus would be toys I could see rendered/ valued at CC. While this Rodimus Prime toy will no doubt be perfect for fans of that character, to me all I see is wasted opportunity missing out on another large Transformer well overdue for an update. I've joked about this before, but if the pattern kept going you could eventually get a Micromaster set, just sold with 7 other sets of Micromasters, and call that "Commander Class".

What if the justification was that this was the only way to properly do justice to the character? They may be more goings on to boost the core Rodimus past the plastic allocation of Voyager Class, plus the trailer has been said to be more fleshed out then what Prime got, so the plastic used on that abd Rodimus would be more then what leader class would have entailed. It would have been easier at that point to add a few other bits to get it to commander class limit then take stuff away which may work for a worse toy.