AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Certainly a lot of ignorance being batted around. For one thing, The Takara Series was never shown in the UK around the time of Sunbow. I live here, I know it first hand.
. Did you see anybody claimed it was around the same time at Sunbow?
I don’t believe I made that claim
We had Sunbow then that "G2" repeat of Sunbow and then nothing until Beast Wars in 1996. Coupled that with the fact that when The Takara Series was released on DVD in 2005, it came with a little text description on the case that said "never before seen in the UK". So there's that too.
Yeah I lunped the uk into the same sentence that I mention the other two markets where it aired that was my mistake
I'm sure the point of that little rant wasn't supposed to be as condescending as it came out, I'll ignore the majority I deemed too patronising to invite discussion just the same.
No not my intent at all I apologize if that’s how it came off
Canon does come down to the individual also.
No I’m sorry that’s just completely incorrect and completely flies in the face of the definition of the word
When wn individual is deciding canon then they are creating personal canon
The word canon was first applied to biblical scriptures and it’s original definition was
“an authoritative list of books recognized as Holy Scripture”
In the world of fiction “canon” is difinrd as “an authorized body of work”.
Hasbro/Takara and those the license to write a fiction are the only ones that can determine what is and is not canon so what is your presumption is quite wrong there.
Take two fans. One only watched the cartoons and only collected the toys from the show, oblivious to anything outside that. The other watched the cartoons, read all the comics and collected all the toys. Both say their experience is 'G1'. Both are correct.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make their
You seem to be viewing this like the hypothetical question “if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it doesn’t make a sound? “,…… while that’s an interesting way to look at it but It’s not really the right way to look at it, The best way to look at it would be if you are looking at the law
Lack of knowledge of the law is not a valid the fence when breaking the law, even the law you never knew about
Yes it’s all G1
Even if the fan only watch the cartoons and collected the toys And had no idea of the other iterations of G1, those other iterations of G1 still existed, They wer out there for him to find Or StumbleUpon, His lack of knowledge to its existence does not disqualify them from being G1 nor does it affect the ”canon-ness” of those other iterations
Also The Cartoons, Story Books, Comics etc were there solely to sell The Toys. THE END. All the ideas of multiple continuities etc were applied retroactively, not a planned design by any means.
Sorry but you’re wrong again
Granted they may not of discuss the word continuities in their planning meetings, but from the very get-go they were telling two very different stories With the comic on the cartoon,Different characters on earth ,different origins how certain characters were created ,different events taking place
The term different continuity might’ve been applied retroactively but from the get go that’s exactly what they gave us and there’s no other way to explain it
Too many people in this day and age base their knowledge on worthless wiki's and such.
I agree but I’m not sure why you brought that up
We may live in the 'information age' that doesn't mean said knowledge is always applicable. Knowledge is power and without first-hand experience, has no real power at all.
Well said