The Energon Pub

by **Sharpwing** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:34 pm

Tammuz wrote:why else would you get so many con/max missions with nigh the same start time?

For the last 3 days I've noticed the same thing with Pred/Bot missions...

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:00 pm

Galvatron Supreme wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Galvatron Supreme wrote:I would like to see LESS maximal missions auto-generated. They are always empty or nearly so.

It's not that there needs to be less, it's that Bots and Cons should not be able to generate beast missions. Or, you could always defect to them and help their numbers.

The former would be fine. The latter, not so much. I'm a con for life.

And I'm a Autobot deep down. So? In order to balance the game factions and get more XP, I went Con. Leveled up a lot, had a lot of fun, then when the beast factions where introduced and there was all those empty missions, I went Pred to boost their numbers and get more XP. You can be whatever faction you want, but if you refuse to go to a lower population faction, then I think you forfeit your right to complain that the lower factions don't have enough opposition for you.

And while you're Con for life, enjoy the hardship of being level 2 and only gaining 100xp a mission.

Rat Convoy wrote:As far as I'm concerned, there's too many "Cons for life." The game would be a lot more fun for everyone, including yourselves, if you guys spread out a bit amongst the factions.

I strongly considered going Con myself, because it sounded like fun, but in the end I kind of saw this coming and saw little point in it. You guys really don't need me while the Maximals definitely do.

The Autobots are just as bad for it too. There were more Autobots then Cons when I reupped.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:04 pm

I keep saying this, and I'll keep saying this until some one listerns.

We need smaller missions for the beasts and larger missions for the origanals.

Ie, as well as the current 6v6 missions, have soem tag team missions for all factions, and some 4v4 missions, at least between the beastes, and perhaps between the generations too (I see no point in them between the G1ers).
Also, have 10v10 missions between the G1ers. Then there'll be easier to fill misisons for the beasts, and less G1ers floodign beast missions.

It's very simple, and requires no programmign at all if that part of the control panels exist.

by **Tammuz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:13 pm

just got to get my alts and i'm defecting, 4v4s or not.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:21 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Galvatron Supreme wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:I would like to see LESS maximal missions auto-generated. They are always empty or nearly so.

The former would be fine. The latter, not so much. I'm a con for life.

And I'm a Autobot deep down. So? In order to balance the game factions and get more XP, I went Con. Leveled up a lot, had a lot of fun, then when the beast factions where introduced and there was all those empty missions, I went Pred to boost their numbers and get more XP. You can be whatever faction you want, but if you refuse to go to a lower population faction, then I think you forfeit your right to complain that the lower factions don't have enough opposition for you.

And while you're Con for life, enjoy the hardship of being level 2 and only gaining 100xp a mission.

Rat Convoy wrote:As far as I'm concerned, there's too many "Cons for life." The game would be a lot more fun for everyone, including yourselves, if you guys spread out a bit amongst the factions.

I strongly considered going Con myself, because it sounded like fun, but in the end I kind of saw this coming and saw little point in it. You guys really don't need me while the Maximals definitely do.

The Autobots are just as bad for it too. There were more Autobots then Cons when I reupped.

Judge us all you want, but when some of us pick a side, we pick it for a reason and dont feel the need to jump ship just because another side may be having issues.

So, the beast factions are smaller? Tough.
Learn to deal with it or help Red try and get it sorted.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:23 pm

Tammuz wrote:just got to get my alts and i'm defecting, 4v4s or not.

We need more good women like you.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:24 pm

Decides not to point out to Psychout that I fully intend to go back to the cons someday...

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:26 pm

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News Credits: 3 · by **Darth Trader** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:26 pm

I agree with pRed. Maybe lower the number to 3 on 3 or 4 on 4 in the max/pred missions. I don't weant to see LESS max/preds. Just less max/preds generated at a single time. I, personally, try not to join the 6 on 1 slaughterfests that ensue because of it.

So, if there is somebody using that "push generate" thing, you're a douche. Please stop. :-)

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:29 pm

Psychout wrote:Judge us all you want, but when some of us pick a side, we pick it for a reason and dont feel the need to jump ship just because another side may be having issues.

So, the beast factions are smaller? Tough.
Learn to deal with it or help Red try and get it sorted.

That's your choice and you're welcome to it. However, some of us like to try to keep the game a little balanced numbers wise. It helps me enjoy the game, and it helps you enjoy the game because there's someone else for you to get XP from. So, until something is done to balance the game (like Red's suggestions), I will continue trying to get people to defect to the lower population factions, because that is better for the game.

Am I being a mercenary? Sure.

Is that bad? Not really, because every person who defects from the autobots or decepticons is helping the other autobots and decepticons.

by **Loki God Of Mischief** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:30 pm

I was just pointing out that I'm a mercenary. Merc With A Mouth and all.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:37 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Psychout wrote:Judge us all you want, but when some of us pick a side, we pick it for a reason and dont feel the need to jump ship just because another side may be having issues.

So, the beast factions are smaller? Tough.
Learn to deal with it or help Red try and get it sorted.

That's your choice and you're welcome to it. However, some of us like to try to keep the game a little balanced numbers wise. It helps me enjoy the game, and it helps you enjoy the game because there's someone else for you to get XP from. So, until something is done to balance the game (like Red's suggestions), I will continue trying to get people to defect to the lower population factions, because that is better for the game.

Am I being a mercenary? Sure.

Is that bad? Not really, because every person who defects from the autobots or decepticons is helping the other autobots and decepticons.

Im not disputing that, but those who want to stay loyal to the cons, regardless of their reasons, shouldn't be hounded for it.

Recruit all you want and I wish you luck, but surely the best way to sort it is to work together with the maxinals, open up a dialogue with the staff and find a way to make you faction more attractive between you. Ive done my bit to help you guys already.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:00 pm

Psychout wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:
Psychout wrote:Judge us all you want, but when some of us pick a side, we pick it for a reason and dont feel the need to jump ship just because another side may be having issues.

So, the beast factions are smaller? Tough.
Learn to deal with it or help Red try and get it sorted.

That's your choice and you're welcome to it. However, some of us like to try to keep the game a little balanced numbers wise. It helps me enjoy the game, and it helps you enjoy the game because there's someone else for you to get XP from. So, until something is done to balance the game (like Red's suggestions), I will continue trying to get people to defect to the lower population factions, because that is better for the game.

Am I being a mercenary? Sure.

Is that bad? Not really, because every person who defects from the autobots or decepticons is helping the other autobots and decepticons.

Im not disputing that, but those who want to stay loyal to the cons, regardless of their reasons, shouldn't be hounded for it.

Recruit all you want and I wish you luck, but surely the best way to sort it is to work together with the maxinals, open up a dialogue with the staff and find a way to make you faction more attractive between you. Ive done my bit to help you guys already.

I realize that part of the misunderstanding, or most of it, is my fault, since I don't use emotes, but 90% of what I say should be taken as a joke or me being a sarcastic bastard.

And I will continue to hound those who I think would be a instant boost for the Preds and Maximals, like GS who's number one and would instantly give anyone in a mission with him a chance to win just by riding on his higher level. And he'll give more targets for the Decepticons and Autobots.

Plus, I see no reason for really carrying what faction you're in when it wont keep you from talking to people on the boards. When I was a Autobot, the two people I respected the most on the boards were Burn and GP. Hell, most of the people I respected on the boards were Decepticon. Hasn't really changed since I went to the Predacons.

Some raw numbers though:

2321 Autobots, 2276 have XP.
1915 Decepticons, 1875 have XP.
937 Maximals, 913 have XP.
611 Predacons, 603 have XP.

News Credits: 3 · by **Darth Trader** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:30 pm

Just for curiosity's sake, if one switches factions, does one get to keep their team names and xp in tact?

by **Tammuz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:31 pm

yup.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:40 pm

Galvatron Supreme wrote:Just for curiosity's sake, if one switches factions, does one get to keep their team names and xp in tact?

You get to keep your selected alt modes until you reset too.

*edit*

If we have faction specific alt modes, why not faction specific weapons?

by **Tammuz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:45 pm

becuase we either end up with duplicate weapons(funtionally the same but with different names) or risk one faction having an advatage of a "better weapon"

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:53 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:If we have faction specific alt modes, why not faction specific weapons?

That isn't a bad idea, but the question comes: is the weapon cache remained separated or is it back to a "one big pool" version?

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:58 pm

Tammuz wrote:becuase we either end up with duplicate weapons(funtionally the same but with different names) or risk one faction having an advatage of a "better weapon"

Nothing wrong with the weapons being functionally the same but with different names. As for one getting a 'better weapon' as long as everythings done right and balanced, that shouldn't happen.

by **Tammuz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:13 pm

i think it's a bit redundant.

by **Rat Convoy** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:26 pm

Doesn't seem particularly necessary and sounds like a pain in the rear to come up with four different names for each weapon.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:37 pm

Esepcilly when some more faction tailored missions would improve tha gameplay for the majority of the players, and therefore is of far more interest.

No, Im not gonna shut up about this.

by **Rat Convoy** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:51 pm

pRedimus wrote:Esepcilly when some more faction tailored missions would improve tha gameplay for the majority of the players, and therefore is of far more interest.

No, Im not gonna shut up about this.

I'm with ya, Red. And I think the priority after the missions are sorted ought to be standardization of tactics costs and making all alts dual tactics.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:57 pm

Tammuz wrote:i think it's a bit redundant.

It's the same as having 6 alts with the same stats. Or 6 variations on spiders. 20 different dragons... 6 guns with "light to heavy damage" ect.

by **Tammuz** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:03 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Tammuz wrote:i think it's a bit redundant.

It's the same as having 6 alts with the same stats. Or 6 variations on spiders. 20 different dragons...

well yes, i think that's redundant too.