RhA wrote:I see your point. First off, the Tomahawk mold is barely a Bayformer. If he'd been in red and white, classics Blades would have been on the tip of everyones tongue. He's far closer to the classics-look than he is to the movie-look.
Repainting him into Springer is a 'take it or leave it' thing. There are already two other Springers out there and at least this one looks like Springer.
Secondly, a 3rd party toy is not a Transformer, it just looks like one. It continues to amaze me that people will pay 100$ for something with inferior plastic which looks slightly more like something would produce in 1986 than 2012.
The question you raise in the topic title is different from the one you eventually ask, though. People already pay more for a 3rd party PPOOBDUBXUIDS-1 NERDRAGE, so that answer for some is 'YES'. At the end of the post you ask if we'd pay more for a Hasbro figure with higher quality and compare it to a 3rd party figure.
In short- NO. The reasons for higher prices on 3rd party stuffs aren't directly related to the quality of the pastic and design alone. Hasbro should be able to deal with this for FAR less money.
xyl360 wrote:The MP line is essentially the best of the best (even better than the third party figures) in my opinion, and I'm talking Takara's MP line, NOT Hasbro's.
What Takara have been doing since MP-10 is just amazing. They're making these figures perfect down to the slightest details in both modes with fully accurate colors, generous paint apps and transformations as simple or as complex as required to get perfect results in both modes. I've yet to see a single third party do that with any figure, and I own several.
Third parties are doing a decent job of filling holes, but if Takara ever decides to take on doing MP combiners, I expect the days of third party success will be numbered because right now, Takara is making better transforming toys that do a heck of a lot more than just homage G1 characters, they ARE the G1 characters. When I look up at my shelf and see MP-10 standing there I don't think to myself "There's one of my Optimus Primes", I think "There IS Optimus Prime!" None of the other lines, be they from Hasbro, Takara or toys from third parties make me feel that way (though Hegemon is pretty close, I'll admit ).
headsortails wrote:xyl360 wrote:The MP line is essentially the best of the best (even better than the third party figures) in my opinion, and I'm talking Takara's MP line, NOT Hasbro's.
What Takara have been doing since MP-10 is just amazing. They're making these figures perfect down to the slightest details in both modes with fully accurate colors, generous paint apps and transformations as simple or as complex as required to get perfect results in both modes. I've yet to see a single third party do that with any figure, and I own several.
Third parties are doing a decent job of filling holes, but if Takara ever decides to take on doing MP combiners, I expect the days of third party success will be numbered because right now, Takara is making better transforming toys that do a heck of a lot more than just homage G1 characters, they ARE the G1 characters. When I look up at my shelf and see MP-10 standing there I don't think to myself "There's one of my Optimus Primes", I think "There IS Optimus Prime!" None of the other lines, be they from Hasbro, Takara or toys from third parties make me feel that way (though Hegemon is pretty close, I'll admit ).
I gotta agree with this. And it's weird for me considering right before the outbreak of Takara's new MP line-up they have going on, I was becoming more of a "third-party" fan. But then Takara busted out with this MP awesomeness and put faith back in me. Looks to me as thought they decided to fight fire with fire. And if they do indeed take on the more complicated combiners and triple changers (or even, high hopes here, a Six Shot), then the game changes dastrically.Hasbro, in my opinion, will just be Hasbro, catering to the rising number of kids growing up in the good ol' U.S. of A. and every once in the while throwing a bone to us adult collectors. As far as the "other guys"- I'm still leaning on them to produce what Hasbro doesn't. I'm sure they will deliver before Hasbro does.
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