First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

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The Takara Tomy Hobby Expo was held last week and while we had seen most of the toys on display, there were some new ones. They had a grey model of the completed MPG Raiden which gives us our best look yet at the MP gestalt. We get a look at the back and the connection points for some components. Speaking of gestalts, they also had a fully completed Legacy Menasor on display. Which means we got to see Breakdown in it's combined mode.

There was also MP Trailbreaker, the Canon Prime figure and the Haslab Victory Sabr, along with other figures. We posted some images below but you can see more here which is where they were posted by the fan who took them, Gamerlingual.

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

Transformers News: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Prototype of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo

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Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145379)
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 25th, 2022 @ 11:33pm CDT
Hmmm...I guess that Breakdown "works" but...seems so odd that all the other limb bots look unique yet they'd only barely retool the rear of 'Rider for the last limb. I'm hoping this is but a mere placeholder until he gets a proper reveal. Maybe some kind of kitbash mockup.
I don't particularly hate it but is intriguing.
Especially since Motormaster's box art showed a very different looking Breakdown that was much more Lambo-like.

Very interesting indeed....
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145380)
Posted by Emerje on September 25th, 2022 @ 11:41pm CDT
Well Raiden is as messy and kibble heavy as expected. Would much rather they used all that extra junk for his leg "wings" to make him taller and used proper non-integrated wing accessories instead. Hopefully those "wings" can be removed.

Emerje
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145387)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 26th, 2022 @ 2:39am CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:Hmmm...I guess that Breakdown "works" but...seems so odd that all the other limb bots look unique yet they'd only barely retool the rear of 'Rider for the last limb. I'm hoping this is but a mere placeholder until he gets a proper reveal. Maybe some kind of kitbash mockup.
I don't particularly hate it but is intriguing.
Especially since Motormaster's box art showed a very different looking Breakdown that was much more Lambo-like.

Very interesting indeed....
If this is the final Breakdown, it's entirely likely that a bunch of retooled parts went towards his robot mode that simply aren't visible in alt mode, which would make him more than "barely" retooled.

Either way, we'll know this weekend.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145388)
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 26th, 2022 @ 3:29am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:Hmmm...I guess that Breakdown "works" but...seems so odd that all the other limb bots look unique yet they'd only barely retool the rear of 'Rider for the last limb. I'm hoping this is but a mere placeholder until he gets a proper reveal. Maybe some kind of kitbash mockup.
I don't particularly hate it but is intriguing.
Especially since Motormaster's box art showed a very different looking Breakdown that was much more Lambo-like.

Very interesting indeed....
If this is the final Breakdown, it's entirely likely that a bunch of retooled parts went towards his robot mode that simply aren't visible in alt mode, which would make him more than "barely" retooled.

Either way, we'll know this weekend.


I wouldn't doubt the budget went into robot if this is truly what Breakdown will end up as either!
As much as I do prefer displaying bots in robot mode...it'd still pretty jarring to have one of them just be a retool when the rest are new!
HasTak didn't seem to mind making alt modes that resemble the Lambo'tach with ER Sunstreaker and KD Sideswipe, I wonder why they would suddenly drop that ball for ol' Breakdown. :-?
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145393)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 26th, 2022 @ 7:29am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:Hmmm...I guess that Breakdown "works" but...seems so odd that all the other limb bots look unique yet they'd only barely retool the rear of 'Rider for the last limb. I'm hoping this is but a mere placeholder until he gets a proper reveal. Maybe some kind of kitbash mockup.
I don't particularly hate it but is intriguing.
Especially since Motormaster's box art showed a very different looking Breakdown that was much more Lambo-like.

Very interesting indeed....
If this is the final Breakdown, it's entirely likely that a bunch of retooled parts went towards his robot mode that simply aren't visible in alt mode, which would make him more than "barely" retooled.

Either way, we'll know this weekend.


The chest, head, front of the torso (lower part), shins and feet are pretty much all that is left that we can't see from car/leg mode. My bet is on the head, chest and torso being new tooling along with the back of the car that we can see. The shins and feet probably didn't really need any changes.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145394)
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 26th, 2022 @ 8:15am CDT
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Perhaps the Takara version has a speech chip in the sword? ;)
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145407)
Posted by DeathReviews on September 26th, 2022 @ 11:29am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nemesis Primal wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:Hmmm...I guess that Breakdown "works" but...seems so odd that all the other limb bots look unique yet they'd only barely retool the rear of 'Rider for the last limb. I'm hoping this is but a mere placeholder until he gets a proper reveal. Maybe some kind of kitbash mockup.
I don't particularly hate it but is intriguing.
Especially since Motormaster's box art showed a very different looking Breakdown that was much more Lambo-like.

Very interesting indeed....
If this is the final Breakdown, it's entirely likely that a bunch of retooled parts went towards his robot mode that simply aren't visible in alt mode, which would make him more than "barely" retooled.

Either way, we'll know this weekend.


The chest, head, front of the torso (lower part), shins and feet are pretty much all that is left that we can't see from car/leg mode. My bet is on the head, chest and torso being new tooling along with the back of the car that we can see. The shins and feet probably didn't really need any changes.


Structurally, Breakdown (at least from these photos) looks nearly identical to Wildrider. If Breakdown is simply a remold of Wildrider, that would be disappointing. As was observed, the art for the Motormaster box conveyed the impression that Breakdown would be more traditionally "Lambo". As strong as this combiner set was with Dragstrip and Motormaster, it would be tragic if they went lazy at the end with a simple remold. They should at least add a spoiler accessory to plug into the back of the car. It's not really a Lambo without that rear spoiler - right?
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145410)
Posted by Overcracker on September 26th, 2022 @ 12:15pm CDT
Sadly, this Breakdown just looks like a lightly retooled Wild Rider.

While I understand they would need to share underlying engineering since they need to work the same way, this is a lazy way of doing it.

The car mode should have been retooled to more closely resemble a Lambo at the very least.

If they produced a Dead End that works essentially the same way as Dragstrip, but looks completely different, they can produce a Breakdown that is not just a cheap retool of Wild Rider.

This is a lazy end to what otherwise was turning out to be a really good Menasor.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145413)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 26th, 2022 @ 1:27pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:It's not really a Lambo without that rear spoiler - right?
Tell that to WFC Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and all their repaints.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145415)
Posted by DeathReviews on September 26th, 2022 @ 1:35pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:It's not really a Lambo without that rear spoiler - right?
Tell that to WFC Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and all their repaints.



OK. I'll tell it to them too :). They don't look like proper Lambos without a rear spoiler. Even if they had only been detachable plug-in accessories, they SHOULD have included that as a feature for all the WFC versions which used that mold. They lost a lot by not having proper spoilers on those figures as well. The closest we got was that weird hair dryer for ER Sunstreaker, and even that was a poor substitute. All it did was prove they COULD have made a rear spoiler as an attachable accessory, but didn't. BOO!

For Legacy Breakdown, they could do it easily. It would just be a matter of MAKING a spoiler with two 5mm pegs at the base. The ports are right there on the back of the car, plain as plain can be. Hopefully, they are doing this. But I get the hunch that they'll just be giving Breakdown two identical guns, like they did with Wild Rider and Dragstrip, and those will plug into those ports.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145416)
Posted by DeathReviews on September 26th, 2022 @ 1:49pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Sadly, this Breakdown just looks like a lightly retooled Wild Rider.

While I understand they would need to share underlying engineering since they need to work the same way, this is a lazy way of doing it.

The car mode should have been retooled to more closely resemble a Lambo at the very least.

If they produced a Dead End that works essentially the same way as Dragstrip, but looks completely different, they can produce a Breakdown that is not just a cheap retool of Wild Rider.

This is a lazy end to what otherwise was turning out to be a really good Menasor.


Hear, hear. Looking closely at the photos, it looks like the lower portions on the car are a perfect match to Wild Rider except for the colors. The hinges, sculpting and transformation seams appear identical. The only difference is the molding on the top. Even the windows and windshield seem to be the same shape. Granted, that won't stop me from GETTING one - I fully intend to complete Menasor. Time will tell, I suppose. But if these photos are any indication, Hasbro seems to have gone lazy with this one.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145418)
Posted by Overcracker on September 26th, 2022 @ 2:16pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Sadly, this Breakdown just looks like a lightly retooled Wild Rider.

While I understand they would need to share underlying engineering since they need to work the same way, this is a lazy way of doing it.

The car mode should have been retooled to more closely resemble a Lambo at the very least.

If they produced a Dead End that works essentially the same way as Dragstrip, but looks completely different, they can produce a Breakdown that is not just a cheap retool of Wild Rider.

This is a lazy end to what otherwise was turning out to be a really good Menasor.


Hear, hear. Looking closely at the photos, it looks like the lower portions on the car are a perfect match to Wild Rider except for the colors. The hinges, sculpting and transformation seams appear identical. The only difference is the molding on the top. Even the windows and windshield seem to be the same shape. Granted, that won't stop me from GETTING one - I fully intend to complete Menasor. Time will tell, I suppose. But if these photos are any indication, Hasbro seems to have gone lazy with this one.


Yup. Only the rear of thew car appears to have bene modified to accommodate those ports, and provide a more sloped rear "window". Everything else looks pretty much the same.

I'll probably get it too though, as otherwise, there's no way to complete Menasor.

They wouldn't just release a lightly retooled Wild Rider now and then release a real Breakdown later down the line would they? Would They? WOULD THEY? :-(
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145434)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 26th, 2022 @ 5:23pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:It's not really a Lambo without that rear spoiler - right?
Tell that to WFC Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and all their repaints.


Wrong: some models have no spoiler or have them as an option, including the Aventador (AoE Lockdown), Centenario (TLK Hot Rod), the Diablo (RiD R.E.V./CR Eaglekiller) and of course the Countach. >:oP
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145439)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on September 26th, 2022 @ 6:04pm CDT
So what do the numbers add up to (ballpark) if someone were to get all Raiden combiners?

I want to see more images in the coming days, not to mention the final after prototypes! :VEHI:
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145443)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 26th, 2022 @ 7:13pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:So what do the numbers add up to (ballpark) if someone were to get all Raiden combiners?


Shouki is $160, give or take, Getsuei is a tad smaller at $140, we can expect fellow leg Yukikaze to be the same. The arms Suiken and Seizan we haven't seen anything yet, so we don't know their size or price. I'd say $150 for each member is a safe average, with Raiden coming to... yikes, $900?!
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145446)
Posted by Emerje on September 26th, 2022 @ 7:29pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:So what do the numbers add up to (ballpark) if someone were to get all Raiden combiners?

I want to see more images in the coming days, not to mention the final after prototypes! :VEHI:

Around $900 depending on where you get them and what shipping costs. The first 3 from Pulse come to $445 before shipping and tax.

Emerje
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145452)
Posted by o.supreme on September 26th, 2022 @ 8:01pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Nemesis Destron wrote:So what do the numbers add up to (ballpark) if someone were to get all Raiden combiners?


Shouki is $160, give or take, Getsuei is a tad smaller at $140, we can expect fellow leg Yukikaze to be the same. The arms Suiken and Seizan we haven't seen anything yet, so we don't know their size or price. I'd say $150 for each member is a safe average, with Raiden coming to... yikes, $900?!


The best way to go (if you can) is to pre order from Amazon.jp direct.

Shouki was around $125, Getsuei just shipped at around $113, and if the exchange rates are around the same next March (not likely but...) Yukikaze is currently also at $125. So there will be some variance, but around $750 for all 6. At any rate, if I end up spending less than $800 (as opposed to $900+ through conventional means) I'll consider it a win.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145477)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 26th, 2022 @ 8:46pm CDT
Raiden does look messy, but I really want to see it completed with final models and colors before I pass a judgment on it. I have been really excited for this figure.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145518)
Posted by Brokebot on September 27th, 2022 @ 10:12am CDT
I'm looking forward to completing Raiden, but that Menasor just makes me sad.
Re: First Look at Legacy Breakdown, Grey Model of MPG Raiden and More at Takara Tomy Hobby Expo (2145526)
Posted by First-Aid on September 27th, 2022 @ 11:38am CDT
That Trailbreaker looks really awkward for some reason.

Can't wait for that Star Saber! It's gorgeous!

That Raiden...I was holding off on picking those figs up until I saw the final combined form first. Wow. AMazing.

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