First US sighting of Hasbro Transformers Masterpiece Bluestreak at Toys R' Us

Wha??? I need to hit TRU Times Square tomorrow morning...

"Online exclusive!" Yeah, right. Not to sound like a jerk, but does one hand at Hasbro know what the other one is doing? I mean, come on...

Autobot032 wrote:"Online exclusive!" Yeah, right. Not to sound like a jerk, but does one hand at Hasbro know what the other one is doing? I mean, come on...

I think it's fairly obvious what one hand is doing .

Mr O wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:"Online exclusive!" Yeah, right. Not to sound like a jerk, but does one hand at Hasbro know what the other one is doing? I mean, come on...

I think it's fairly obvious what one hand is doing .

Congrats!

Are there any known differences between this release and the original Takara release of MP-18 aside from the box?

megatronus wrote:Wha??? I need to hit TRU Times Square tomorrow morning...

Dat price though.... I'll wait for a sale

Convoy wrote:I'm hoping mold degradation fixes that perma-clip, that occurs in the chest when this mold is "properly" transformed into robot mode, for prospective buyers.
My poor TakaraTomy Streak/Bluestreak is still afflicted by the Nucleon and stuck in robot mode.
I miss transforming that guy.
That one issue is what's keeping me from jumping on the Blue Bluesteak before it's out of a reasonable price range forever.

This is literally the first time I've heard any mention of that issue, so thanks for mentioning it. It's like nobody wants to talk about the issues with MP molds, they either never mention the issues or they walk right past posts that attempt to discuss them. Silly, since we're collectors and we should be sharing these sorts of things openly and honestly. Like the crap red paint color matching across the panels on MP-12 Sideswipe, the ill-fitting door panels/gaps, and the paint defects common on all variations of MP-12, regular and the black Lambor model. Few will even acknowledge that. So strange. And we have a re-release of it coming up for the Asian market (and who knows, Hasbro might bring it here, too), but hardly anyone actually asks the important questions like is the paint application or the quality control any better on that re-issue, or are we just spending the same $70 to get the same crap paint quality that's not even acceptable for a KO let alone an official product.

70$US at TIME SQUARE no less. That make... around 88$CAN... Pretty spot on actu... "AFTER TAXES".
Aw, fawk you, TrU.

Nice [TRU Timesquare on Broadway & 44th] If any of my Toy's R'us could look like that. Man....... SMH.
An I personally don't get it-- A Billion $$ dollar company can't try an keep 2 or 3 Different MP's in stock at all times. I don't think they know how much $$$ they're loosing; buy not keeping ALL they're stores shelves Stocked. God forbid they have more than 4 or 5 Voyager-class choices, 2 or 3 (platinum) reissues, A few MP's it would be nice too see alot of this, Just once on the shelf.
&
"Nucleon" hah.

-Kanrabat- wrote:70$US at TIME SQUARE no less. That make... around 88$CAN... Pretty spot on actu... "AFTER TAXES".
Aw, fawk you, TrU.

How are taxes TRU fault? You can clearly see the retail price before taxes on the receipt.

mcfmullen wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:70$US at TIME SQUARE no less. That make... around 88$CAN... Pretty spot on actu... "AFTER TAXES".
Aw, fawk you, TrU.

How are taxes TRU fault? You can clearly see the retail price before taxes on the receipt.

He is referring to the price difference between canada and us. The Price after tax i the us is equal to the price before tax in canada, taking conversion into account. And he doesnt find that fair.

Don't act like y'all don't know. Our MP's cost more because of the taxes, WHICH cover the dog sled teams it takes to get them up here.

shajaki wrote:Don't act like y'all don't know. Our MP's cost more because of the taxes, WHICH cover the dog sled teams it takes to get them up here.

That doesn't make mush sense to me.

Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:Don't act like y'all don't know. Our MP's cost more because of the taxes, WHICH cover the sled dog teams it takes to get them up here.

That doesn't make mush sense to me.

Cause... Canada? North... snow... igloos....

Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:Don't act like y'all don't know. Our MP's cost more because of the taxes, WHICH cover the dog sled teams it takes to get them up here.

That doesn't make mush sense to me.

megatronus wrote:Wha??? I need to hit TRU Times Square tomorrow morning...

Well? were there any left? Did you get one?

shajaki wrote:

Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:Don't act like y'all don't know. Our MP's cost more because of the taxes, WHICH cover the sled dog teams it takes to get them up here.

That doesn't make mush sense to me.

Cause... Canada? North... snow... igloos....

Maple'll try a different joke.

Va'al wrote:Maple'll try a different joke.

What if I Canada do better?

shajaki wrote:

Va'al wrote:Maple'll try a different joke.

What if I Canada do better?

I can't bear all this.

jay5 wrote:This is literally the first time I've heard any mention of that issue, so thanks for mentioning it. It's like nobody wants to talk about the issues with MP molds, they either never mention the issues or they walk right past posts that attempt to discuss them. Silly, since we're collectors and we should be sharing these sorts of things openly and honestly. Like the crap red paint color matching across the panels on MP-12 Sideswipe, the ill-fitting door panels/gaps, and the paint defects common on all variations of MP-12, regular and the black Lambor model. Few will even acknowledge that. So strange. And we have a re-release of it coming up for the Asian market (and who knows, Hasbro might bring it here, too), but hardly anyone actually asks the important questions like is the paint application or the quality control any better on that re-issue, or are we just spending the same $70 to get the same crap paint quality that's not even acceptable for a KO let alone an official product.

Woah woah woah, let's not revise history. The MP-12 QC was a huge let down when the toy first came out, there was a ton of discussion about it, just a firestorm for a bit. The tight joint being referred to on the Datsun mold is not universally so tight that you can't make it a car again, but it's definitely also been discussed a ton, and again, was so discussed at the time the first versions were released. The perception may be that these things are ignored, but it's pretty far from the truth, it's just that these are toys from October 2012 in Sideswipe's case and September 2013 in Prowl's case, and there isn't much else to be said about it that hasn't been.

In other words, I don't think anyone's ignoring or forgetting anything in an effort to be some Takara/Hasbro non-KO/3P White Knight, it's that nothing's being said because there is nothing else to say about it.

So that makes me curious: Since those MPs are that old and the first issue of them was so long ago, is there any evidence that Takara or Hasbro re-issues will be of any higher quality than the first runs?

Va'al wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Va'al wrote:Maple'll try a different joke.

What if I Canada do better?

I can't bear all this.

IF you add them up, these jokes a-mounty to nothing.

jay5 wrote:So that makes me curious: Since those MPs are that old and the first issue of them was so long ago, is there any evidence that Takara or Hasbro re-issues will be of any higher quality than the first runs?

Afaik the paint on subsequent runs of MP-12 were better. Not perfect, mind you, but better. Some of the first run Lambors are really bad. As far as molding, usually not much done there unless it's a total disaster warranting a second "Version", like MP-9, though the second version was still just as bad of a QC mess as the first, if not worse so who knows if it's even desirable for them to try

ScottyP wrote:

jay5 wrote:So that makes me curious: Since those MPs are that old and the first issue of them was so long ago, is there any evidence that Takara or Hasbro re-issues will be of any higher quality than the first runs?

Afaik the paint on subsequent runs of MP-12 were better. Not perfect, mind you, but better. Some of the first run Lambors are really bad. As far as molding, usually not much done there unless it's a total disaster warranting a second "Version", like MP-9, though the second version was still just as bad of a QC mess as the first, if not worse so who knows if it's even desirable for them to try

I only know this, the latest version of MP 12 (tf expo exclusive without tampograph) had really good paint apps.

So it turns out that the Starscream we are getting from TRU later this year does NOT come with the coronation gear which now remains TT exclusive:

I'm just happy to have another chance to get him at a decent price. Let's hope he doesn't have any of the screwy issues Sunstorm had.

Cobotron wrote:I'm just happy to have another chance to get him at a decent price. Let's hope he doesn't have any of the screwy issues Sunstorm had.

I wouldnt expect it to be better. That mold has been a real let down. I am really surprised it gets so much love. What impreses me most about it and why I wouldnt mind getting it for cheap is it's ability to use the nosecone for the chest and not have kibble in back of it's head. But then again, Prime Dreadwing achieved it quite well.

All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

shajaki wrote:All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

Honestly, I'm just thrilled that Hasbro did this one in the correct colors. They followed Takara's lead on the paint mask and tones almost exactly for a fantastic G1-cartoon accurate look. The ONLY difference seems to be Hasbro's insistence on the toy-accurate blue-painted nosecone, but that hides away nicely in robot mode anyway. They didn't even bother with the flared wing stripes or silly "decals" that detract a bit from their MP Thundercracker release a few years ago. I can skip the coronation gear if it means I can have the toy at almost 60% off the price of Takara's version through online retailers.

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

What did Sunny cost CAD? $80? $90? Starscream is the real McCoy, and the alternative (yes with more accessories) IF you can find him will cost $200+ USD. So yeah, anyone who needs an MP Screamer would be daft to pass on him.

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

shajaki wrote:All mold issues concerned, if he's sold at the same price Sunstorm was, its a STEAL compared to TT's.

Even if he doesnt come with the same accessories?

What did Sunny cost CAD? $80? $90? Starscream is the real McCoy, and the alternative (yes with more accessories) IF you can find him will cost $200+ USD. So yeah, anyone who needs an MP Screamer would be daft to pass on him.

Question for you, is an MP screamer needed as much as it used to be? We had the original MP 03 and then Hasbro released theirs and people either bought him then or double dipped for the accurate deco. Then when the retooling of the mold came to remove that thigh kibble, Takara released theirs for 200$ so (like last time) people either got him then or double/triple dipped for more accurate deco and more accurate molding (though people still have their problems with it, I can attest to that). And now while we are getting the Hasbro version of that retooled mold in starscream deco finally, we are also getting another starscream in the same G1 deco (Hasbro was very precise about the white they used) in the same scale and at half the price (lower if you just wait for a discount). So I am wondering if it's a sign that things are evolving and that the need for this mold as starscream isn't really there.

Of course the main argument people always give is : but this is MP starscream. But are we over that mold? Am I over that mold? At that price? It's what I am currently wondering. I had an MP Starscream (MP 03 G) and it broke the second day I bought him so I do need a Starscream in this scale. One thing for sure, I am either gettingn CW Leader Starscream (who actually comes with a crown) OR Hasbro MP Starscream, not both.

william-james88 wrote:Question for you, is an MP screamer needed as much as it used to be?

I had this same discussion with X over "why would anyone want a FT Quakewave nowadays?".

william-james88 wrote:We had the original MP 03 and then Hasbro released theirs and people either bought him then or double dipped for the accurate deco.

Thigh thingies, people hated it. Accurate deco helped, but people still clamored over MP11.

william-james88 wrote:Then when the retooling of the mold came to remove that thigh kibble, Takara released theirs for 200$ so (like last time) people either got him then or double/triple dipped for more accurate deco and more accurate molding (though people still have their problems with it, I can attest to that).

See, not everyone did. I sure didn't, likewise with MP10. I wasn't that hard into TF's back then and I had MP01 and MP03 (and the accurate repaint) and figured I didn't need it. My first MP11 was Sunstorm, and after seeing how different the mold was I was in for everything (flaws and all). I bought Hasbro's MP10 from the shelf, and MP11 from eBay at a markup.

william-james88 wrote:And now while we are getting the Hasbro version of that retooled mold in starscream deco finally, we are also getting another starscream in the same G1 deco (Hasbro was very precise about the white they used) in the same scale and at half the price (lower if you just wait for a discount). So I am wondering if it's a sign that things are evolving and that the need for this mold as starscream isn't really there.

If people want to put Leaderscream in their MP display, more power to them. But they're worlds apart to me.

william-james88 wrote:Of course the main argument people always give is : but this is MP starscream. But are we over that mold? Am I over that mold?

I don't get the "being over" the mold. This isn't about being over the mold to me. Its the quintessential version of the seeker, and the most popular one of them all. And I doubt that EVERYONE bought TT's MP11 when it was out the first time.

william-james88 wrote:At that price?

This is the complaint I don't get. If you want Starscream, in his greatest plastic representation, you will never get one at a better price. If you just don't want him, or want Leadersream instead, that's fine. But Hasbro's MP11 is amazing for what it is.

shajaki wrote:

william-james88 wrote:At that price?

This is the complaint I don't get. If you want Starscream, in his greatest plastic representation, you will never get one at a better price. If you just don't want him, or want Leadersream instead, that's fine. But Hasbro's MP11 is amazing for what it is.

Sounds good. And thanks for replying. It helps me see if it is worth getting it. I was a bit torn on it and your reply helped greatly!

Is there a reason no one has posted an image of the interior box art to MP Bluestreak from TRU?! Just got mine today, super excited, and then I notice the line drawings in the box..

Bumblebee, Megatron, Optimus, Unicron?!

To jump in with you Shaj and WJ, I'm going to try to get the new release of Starscream from TRU when it's available. I have the Walmart MP release of Starscream and Skywarp, and those leg panels (moved them to the lower leg so he will actually stand) drive me nuts. I received TRU MP Thundercracker as a gift when he came out and the improvements make the figure that much better. I think I'll swap Walmart Starscream's head to the TRU release, gotta have that smirk

itscramtastic wrote:Is there a reason no one has posted an image of the interior box art to MP Bluestreak from TRU?! Just got mine today, super excited, and then I notice the line drawings in the box..

Bumblebee, Megatron, Optimus, Unicron?!

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Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

william-james88 wrote:Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

Booooooooooo. Didn't notice them in Prowls box..

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hasbro has been using those since last year and it was found that they were more blueprints of their G1 selves and not indicative of any upcoming MP release. In the end, they are just there to look good.

Booooooooooo. Didn't notice them in Prowls box..

Na, it was in the backdrop of instructions.

Here's an example:



Sn here is the link to that previous rumour which has since been debunked:http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/rumour-potential-transformers-masterpiece-megatron-and-cliffjumper-designs/31857/

So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

itscramtastic wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

I am assuming they are the same.

All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

Do you have Sideswipe yet? He didnt get a Hasbro release which is too bad since I find him to be the best car mold so far (and he was the first).

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:All I can do is compare mine to pictures and I can't see a difference other than some stamping on the inside of his left foot (rear section of the car). It feels great in hand, I'm really happy to have Prowl and Bluestreak, I just need more MP Autobot cars now

Do you have Sideswipe yet? He didnt get a Hasbro release which is too bad since I find him to be the best car mold so far (and he was the first).

I didn't get one yet, and I thought Hasbro was releasing him (rumors I guess) so now I'll pick one up. That's good to hear that he's awesome, even though I'm partial to Z cars over Lamborghini's Too bad he didn't come with the jet pack that Prime could steal.

Wolfman Jake wrote:So, is Hasbro's MP Bluestreak really as spot on to the Takara-Tomy release as Prowl was allegedly last year? I'm assuming that Hasbro's Prowl had no differences, as I've never seen any mentioned, and am hoping that Bluestreak is the same in this regard.

Pretty much. Got my Hasbro one in yesterday and here are the teeny tiny nit-picky differences:

• Hasbro stamping on inner right foot/leg assembly.
• Silver paint is thicker on Hasbro one - but this could be one of those "only on mine" things and may vary by piece and/or production run.
• There might be an extremely minor difference in the dark metallic paint. Maybe. Would probably have to take them out in sunlight to be sure, but could also be a production run thing.
• The red plastic in his lower torso (under the car hood in robot mode) is all the same color of red on my Hasbro one, whereas on my Takara version (which is a 1st run one) there is a slight difference in red for red parts on the same toy. I may have the versions backwards here, running this off memory since I'm not at home.

In other words - what differences are there between the Hasbro and Takara MP Bluestreaks? For practical purposes, nothing.

Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

Hasbro version without the cape and crown yes. I also think the Hasbro cars should be around $45

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Really disappointed about the lack of cape and crown for Hasbro MP Starscream. That kinda makes the price hard to swallow.

What price would make sense for an MP seeker to you? Should it be the same as the MP cars?

Hasbro version without the cape and crown yes. I also think the Hasbro cars should be around $45

But isnt that less than the cost of the Takara versions? And as far as we know, there isn't any difference between the toy aside from the box.

Does anyone know what the MP-11 Starscream releases have been going for at retail in Japan? I know the standard price domestically for that import is about $200, but what is it before the mark-up? That should give us a better idea as to the true value of the Hasbro version, sine the cape and crown, for $79.99.