In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup

Friday, December 10th, 2021 8:21AM CST

Category: Toy News
Posted by: william-james88 Views: 75,751

Topic Options: View Discussion · Sign in or Join to reply

Thanks to ???? on Weibo, we have in hand images of the Buzzworthy rerelease of Studio Series deluxe Kup with new deco. This toy has been released at collector stores in Hong Kong and while it is ready for distribution, we just don't know when it will land in the west and make its way to Target shelves. For now, we can at least see what is going on deco-wise with this toy. It has some very specific callbacks to shots of Kup from the Transformers Movie, bringing it closer to an onscreen likeness. We lso have shots of the back of the box of both Kup and Cliffjumper.

You'll let us know what you think!

News Search

Got Transformers News? Let us know here!

Most Recent Transformers News

Walmart Opens Store Page For Retro G1-Inspired Seaspray, Plus Potential Brawn Leak

Posted 4 days ago

New Galleries: Power of the Primes Prime Masters Vector Prime, Micronus and Liege Maximo

Posted 4 days ago

Christmas in July- New Transformers Hallmark Keepsake Ornaments have been Released and Available

Posted 6 days ago

New Gallery: Robosaur Triceratops (aka KO G1 Dinobot Slag)

Posted 7 days ago

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123070)
Posted by sol magnus on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:32am CST

I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123071)
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:43am CST

sol magnus wrote:I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.

I think this may be the concensus. The deco does work better in robot than vehicle mode though.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123072)
Posted by sol magnus on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:53am CST

william-james88 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:I dunno. He just looks better in this deco to me.

I think this may be the concensus. The deco does work better in robot than vehicle mode though.

Good thing I display my Transformers in robot mode then.

But hey, you've given me an idea of what to do with the old one I'm stuck with (since my son also has Kup already). I'll change it to a truck.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123077)
Posted by Solrac333 on December 10th, 2021 @ 9:40am CST

Meh. I'm fine with the first version. At the high deluxe prices, I'm not double dipping.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123080)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 10:19am CST

It's not just the windows that's different, they actually went and corrected Kup's altmode colors:

The wheels on his legs are now gray instead of black.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123081)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 10th, 2021 @ 10:26am CST

I can't believe Hasbro is getting me to double dip on a Kup figure. :lol:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123086)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2021 @ 10:44am CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:I can't believe Hasbro is getting me to double dip on a Kup figure.

I found that Kup to be a bad toy.
Yet me too..... #-o

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123092)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 11:16am CST

Sabrblade wrote:It's not just the windows that's different, they actually went and corrected Kup's altmode colors:

The wheels on his legs are now gray instead of black.

Sabr, what is “corrected” per say with the alt mode? The only difference is that they painted some of the sea foam green parts above the windshield turquoise, but that looks less accurate to the movie, as seen below. They had it right the first time. Also, the wheels should be visible at all on the shins, so wether black or gray, it’s still in accurate.

I would love to see some side-by-side comparison pics too, just to compare a d contrast better the colors used for the plastics and paints. They look to be different shades, it it’s impossible to really tell unless they are in the same picture with the same lighting conditions.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123093)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 11:37am CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabr, what is “corrected” per say with the alt mode? The only difference is that they painted some of the sea foam green parts above the windshield turquoise, but that looks less accurate to the movie, as seen below. They had it right the first time. Also, the wheels should be visible at all on the shins, so wether black or gray, it’s still in accurate.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123094)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 10th, 2021 @ 11:40am CST

Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123095)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 11:47am CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.

AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123098)
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:07pm CST

It seems that there is still hope for SS and WFC Trilogy figures to be re-released sans cr@pple-damage paint (ignoring the "anime damage" that this new version of Kup is sporting, like a champ). I hope Galvatron and Springer get this treatment, and possibly some slightly repainted versions of "rare" characters from these lines, like the Seekers, Coneheads, and Earthrise Ratchet and Ironhide, etc.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123099)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:12pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.

Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow. It's not just the lighting.

I'll give you a shot where lighting is actually playing a trick, though:

In this shot - which seems to be the only other full shot of the truck mode from the movie on the wiki - the upper part of the truck cab is the same color as the windshield section, as per the color model... but you have to look closely to not be fooled by the lighting into thinking it's lighter.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123101)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:15pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.
Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow.

Thanks, Zelda! You said it perfectly.

AKOM, though, is responsible for Kup’s shins sometimes being gray instead of turquoises in many post-movie TV episodes. :roll:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123103)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:26pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Sigh... gotta love different color models, right? Most of Season 3 was animated by AKOM, which is notorious for its errors in coloring, models and all other kinds of weirdness.
AKOM doesn't even factor here. Wolfman was looking at a TFTM screencap of Kup's altmode covered in heavy lighting and shadow.
Except that even taking the lighting into account, the uppermost part of Kup's truck mode cab in that shot is still obviously a paler green than the part with the windshield, with clear dividing lines between the patches of color. The areas of it that are lit are an exact color match for the area of the front right fender that's lit and are paler than the lit area of the section that connects to the bed (with a black line clearly dividing the colors), and the shadowed areas are still lighter than the areas of the windshield section that are in the same band of shadow.

Thanks, Zelda! You said it perfectly.

Watching the whole sequence reveals that it's all the same color:

Along with many other shots in the movie:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123105)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:41pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Watching the whole sequence reveals that it's all the same color:

Sorry, no it doesn't. At least, not based on what you showed. All those shots you posted? Still show a definite contrast between the uppermost section and the windshield section. They don't all show it as matching the fender, but it's still definitely lighter than the windshield section (which is visibly darker than the top area even in the patches that are in the same light or shadow).

The screenshots you provide from the rest of the movie do obey the color model, but every single one of those shots from the victorious "Transform and roll out" sequence show the top of his cab to be darker than the windshield area.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123106)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CST

Hmmm…I can see what you mean now, Sabr, but the lighting effects must have fooled the designers too. That’s pretty weird. Got any season 3 screen caps? I wonder if the SS86 release color scheme appears in the show and not the movie.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123110)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:20pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm…I can see what you mean now, Sabr, but the lighting effects must have fooled the designers too. That’s pretty weird.

It happens more than you think. Google Image searches bring up old fan-colored models from a Ukranian fansite that used that screencap for reference when coloring Kup's altmode:

These Ukranian models have influenced tons of toys' decos in recent years, thanks to sites like Pinterest and other fan Wikis (who aren't TFWiki) spreading them around the Internet.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Got any season 3 screen caps? I wonder if the SS86 release color scheme appears in the show and not the movie.

Best I could find (most were at bad angles, in terrible lighting, or from behind):

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123112)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:26pm CST

All I know is that I like the back wheels gray instead of black because it doesn't make the wheels stand out so much in bot mode.
I also prefer the gray color on the top of the torso around the neck area.
The windshield color is definitely good enough for me, and the extra details of linework are a bonus.
I do wish they would've added details on both legs, not just his right one.
*edit*
I just noticed to detail on his left bicep area... I get it, it's literally a small detail, yet I really appreciate that!

Again, I much prefer this new version and will be getting him for sure.

Down the road I hope to see a magenta Hot Rod, and a Galvatron that's a desaturated blue-violet, rather than an almost wine colored red-ish violet of the Kingdom version.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123113)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:27pm CST

There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123114)
Posted by sol magnus on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:28pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Any link to that?

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123115)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:29pm CST

sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Any link to that?

Just check the recent news posts on TFW2005.

It is a bit of a shame with the opaque windows, though. I like them for a bit of added depth and realism that goes along with the more detailed sculpting flourishes in modern Generations figures. The opaque windows look more plain and “cartoony/fake” on a real world object. I love how some recent figures have the inside of the windshields painted or against an inner piece of plastic with tech detailing to hide the messy robot kibble folded up inside. They could have done the same for Kup if they had used a colorless transparent plastic with a silver or light gray paint job underneath.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123116)
Posted by sol magnus on December 10th, 2021 @ 1:49pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Any link to that?

Just check the recent news posts on TFW2005.

It is a bit of a shame with the opaque windows, though. I like them for a bit of added depth and realism that goes along with the more detailed sculpting details in modern Generations figures. The opaque windows look more plain and “cartoony/fake” on a real world object. I love how some recent figures have the inside of the windshields painted or against an inner piece of plastic with tech detailing to hide the messy robot kibble folded up inside. They could have done the same for Kup if they had used a colorless transparent plastic with a silver or light gray paint job underneath.

Side by side, I'm not sure I'm as in love with Cliff as I am with Kup. Back in the day when these guys had screws holding them together I'd disassemble them and make the best representation out of both, but as it stands I'm bot sure that's even possible considering the gray on Cliffjumper seems at least a shade lighter than on the show.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123117)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 2:00pm CST

sol magnus wrote:Side by side, I'm not sure I'm as in love with Cliff as I am with Kup. Back in the day when these guys had screws holding them together I'd disassemble them and make the best representation out of both, but as it stands I'm bot sure that's even possible considering the gray on Cliffjumper seems at least a shade lighter than on the show.

Even if the shade of gray is not exactly to your liking, it’s more accurate than the black arms and legs of the Earthrise release. The erroneous red on the shoulders and forearms is gone too. This repaint of Cliffjumper looks way more faithful to his cartoon model, in my opinion. Plus, the number of Autobot insignias has been increased to some from absolutely none, lol!

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123118)
Posted by sol magnus on December 10th, 2021 @ 2:10pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Side by side, I'm not sure I'm as in love with Cliff as I am with Kup. Back in the day when these guys had screws holding them together I'd disassemble them and make the best representation out of both, but as it stands I'm bot sure that's even possible considering the gray on Cliffjumper seems at least a shade lighter than on the show.

Even if the shade of gray is not exactly to your liking, it’s more accurate than the black arms and legs of the Earthrise release. The erroneous red on the shoulders and forearms is gone too. This repaint of Cliffjumper looks way more faithful to his cartoon model, in my opinion. Plus, the number of Autobot insignias has been increased to some from absolutely none, lol!

I agree he looks more faithful to the animation model, but the animation model is less clashy than what they ended up with. Also, just like with Kup but in reverse, I kind of think the original just looks better minus the lack of an Autobot logo.

I dunno. I'll probably change my mind at some point between now and getting to see it in the store.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123123)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2021 @ 3:06pm CST

TlDr; Both versions of Kup are valid.
And if one have both one could swap parts to have the "best" version.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123124)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 3:18pm CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:TlDr; Both versions of Kup are valid.
And if one have both one could swap parts to have the "best" version.

Except that, with the use of pins instead of screws, it’s a LOT harder to mix and match parts now.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123126)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 10th, 2021 @ 3:32pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:TlDr; Both versions of Kup are valid.
And if one have both one could swap parts to have the "best" version.

Except that, with the use of pins instead of screws, it’s a LOT harder to mix and match parts now.

Goddammit.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123127)
Posted by primalxconvoy on December 10th, 2021 @ 3:51pm CST

Wolfman Jake wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Any link to that?

Just check the recent news posts on TFW2005.

I'd rather eat my own young than give that place any more of my time. Isn't that one of the reasons many of us come here instead?

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123128)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 4:04pm CST

primalxconvoy wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:There are some nice side-by-side comparison shots of Cliffjumper circulating now too. The plastic for the windows is indeed now opaque, solid plastic, not “brittle” transparent plastic. The same goes for Kup and his energon goodies, it’s all opaque now. I hope we see SS86 Jazz get the same treatment in the Buzzworthy Bumblebee line. Maybe they could throw in his correct number too?

Any link to that?

Just check the recent news posts on TFW2005.

I'd rather eat my own young than give that place any more of my time. Isn't that one of the reasons many of us come here instead?

I just looked at the pictures. I avoid the forums and comment sections. I don’t even have a user account there. But, they are quicker on breaking news from time to time. I much prefer the company and conversation here, despite the occasional bad apple or two.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123131)
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2021 @ 4:36pm CST

If you thought there were reasons to double dip on Kup, well wait till you get a load of Cliffumper. While the blue chest (which seems to be a solid plastic piece rather than painted clear plastic) is the most obvious part, the grey arms and legs are also different from the original. it has the autobot insignia on the chest too. And the change in deco is not just with the figure, but with the gun too. It is painted blue now, to look more like it did in the G1 episode (photo below). These images came to us from Instagram user tonezone.mp4.

We also have new images of Kup comparing him to the original release.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123135)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 10th, 2021 @ 4:48pm CST

Oh man, these new Kup and Cliffjumper decos just beat the tar out of the old ones.

Kup's altmode is colored correctly, his eyes are more lively blue, the opaque window matches his overall deco so much better, he's got a proper G1 Autobrand instead of a Movieverse one, his leg wheels are gray instead of black...

Cliffjumper's windows are solid opaque plastic instead of painted translucent plastic, his red is brighter and so much more vibrant, his arms and legs are the correct gray and black instead of red and black, his bazooka is metallic blue, he's got an Autobrand on his chest and on the front end of his car hood...

They both look so GOOD.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123137)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 10th, 2021 @ 4:55pm CST

Thanks for posting those comparison shots...

I also like that Kup's limb parts are toned-down instead of a minty blue-green.
The backpack part being darker looks better as well.
It almost looks like his eyes are painted and outlined... The brighter blue looks good.

While I don't like the painted windows for Cliffjumper's alt mode, that won't matter because he'll always be in bot mode in my display.
The red-orange color looks fantastic.
And I do appreciate the gray portions of the limbs. It just looks better.
I don't care that much, but the metallic blue of the weapons is also an improvement imo.

So these guys are supposed to be released on the 30th?
This is a hunt I'm looking forward to!

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123138)
Posted by Otaku-mus Prime on December 10th, 2021 @ 4:59pm CST

I'm torn between the 2 versions now. I like cartoon accurate but I also like seeing the machine parts in the windshield -- it gives some additional "depth" to the toy.

How do you feel about the painted fists of the BWB version?

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123140)
Posted by M. Spector on December 10th, 2021 @ 5:16pm CST

I think might be just the push needed to get me to go in on Kup. While the transparent windscreen with the exposed parts is a good aesthetic choice, I like how the extra paint on this new one detracts from the "toy ness" of the bare plastic on the old ones limbs. Plus those eyes!
These are redecos done right ;)^

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123141)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 10th, 2021 @ 5:37pm CST

Kup looks better enough that I might be tempted to get him. Cliffjumper I'm not so sure is worth replacing.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123145)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 10th, 2021 @ 6:22pm CST

Well Kup was already a buy for me, these just reinforce it. And I was already passing on Cliffy, and these reinforce that as well. He just gives me total RtS Rodimus vibes in car mode.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123146)
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2021 @ 6:25pm CST

King Kuuga wrote:Kup looks better enough that I might be tempted to get him. Cliffjumper I'm not so sure is worth replacing.

Same, I get that cliffjumper is mote accurate but I don't think that makes him look better.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123148)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:02pm CST

And sold! The lighter eyes on Kup make him look much less zombie-like.

I missed Cliff the first time (deluxe price for a legends fig really bugged me) and have regretted it.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123150)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:15pm CST

Yeah, the colors just look better on BB Kup. I’m going to have to double dip. As I said a few times before already, I’m already sold on BB Cliffjumper. :lol:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123151)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:27pm CST

It really is surprising that we're getting these figures now...
And is just so odd that this new Kup isn't what we initially got in SS86.
Is this Hastak's move to sell more of this mold because they weren't able to figure out a better way with something like a SG version?

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123152)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:27pm CST

After looking at that group shot, I'm even more convinced that Wreck-gar should have been a deluxe. His giant bike mode just looks off next to the other vehicles. His bot mode is more passable, but still too big.

Anyway, back to Kup and Cliffy...

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123153)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:45pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:After looking at that group shot, I'm even more convinced that Wreck-gar should have been a deluxe. His giant bike mode just looks off next to the other vehicles. His bot mode is more passable, but still too big.

Anyway, back to Kup and Cliffy...

I tend to agree about Wreck-gar...
A height in-between Springer and Hot Rod would've been ideal imo, but even slightly closer to HR.
And the alt mode situation is just what it is... Even with a smaller figure overall, the bike was always going to be too big.

Even though I'm alrady certain I'll get this new CJ, earlier this evening I was looking at my ER version.
These new photos are just a little misleading in terms of the size of that window on the chest...
It's actually not that large, which considering that really bright blue paint, is a really good thing imo.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123154)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on December 10th, 2021 @ 7:53pm CST

I don't mind Wreck-Gar, the only thing that bothers me in that group shot is Rodimus's spoiler in alt-mode. Even if they were going to have him as a standalone car, I wish they'd made a way that it could slide closer to the windscreen and have the car slot deeper into the trailer. Even with that criticism, it's still a great set and a fantastic companion to the SS86 lineup.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123155)
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:15pm CST

MeGrimlock78 wrote:And sold! The lighter eyes on Kup make him look much less zombie-like.

I missed Cliff the first time (deluxe price for a legends fig really bugged me) and have regretted it.

When you'll pick it up you'll see that it's nothing like a legends fig.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123157)
Posted by Dominus Prime on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:28pm CST

Definitely like this deco better. More tune accurate for sure. Just wish they would've taken the opportunity to improve the head sculp. It's not a bad head sculp per say but looks a little off to me

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123162)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 10th, 2021 @ 8:44pm CST

I think Kup looks slightly better, but they really needed to give him a new head, that one is not good.

As for Cliff.... Wow. I really love my ER Cliffjumper, it's a fun mold that looks great. But this repaint makes him look dreadful. This is the repaint that shows to me attempts at cartoon paintwork don't work. The windows look terrible in both mode, and the car mode color and the weird paint layout make this toy legit look like a dollar store toy. That was not good. So glad it's exclusive and hopefully it stays that way.

Sowndwave76 wrote:It really is surprising that we're getting these figures now...
And is just so odd that this new Kup isn't what we initially got in SS86.
Is this Hastak's move to sell more of this mold because they weren't able to figure out a better way with something like a SG version?

Nah, they just repainted all the ones my local walmarts got and shipped them elsewhere [/joke (seriously, the 4 walmarts I check in on have had at least 4 Kups each since I moved in June).

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123165)
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2021 @ 9:08pm CST

Sowndwave76 wrote:It really is surprising that we're getting these figures now...
And is just so odd that this new Kup isn't what we initially got in SS86.
Is this Hastak's move to sell more of this mold because they weren't able to figure out a better way with something like a SG version?

Kup has the Orion Pax retool/redeco option, which looks like they will be doing anyways.
But I don't think it's about selling more of this mold per se but rather ensure that retailers have constant stock on their shelves for anyone who wants to buy Transformers. And thus is what they settled on as the low effort product.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123170)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 10th, 2021 @ 10:14pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:Oh man, these new Kup and Cliffjumper decos just beat the tar out of the old ones.

Debatable

Some of the "improvements" you note are big downgrades in my book.

Sabrblade wrote:Kup's altmode is colored correctly,

Nice enough on its own, but for me it gets dragged down by other things.

Sabrblade wrote:his eyes are more lively blue,

Although at the cost of being painted.

Sabrblade wrote:the opaque window matches his overall deco so much better,

Meh. For me that's always been one thing that's made most of the movie onward G1 molds look kinda cheap. I think the look would be better done via a colorless clear window and off-white paint behind it. But even if the blue isn't exactly on, I'll take it over the opaque one any day.

Sabrblade wrote:he's got a proper G1 Autobrand instead of a Movieverse one

Something you have to squint to really take notice of lol :-P

Sabrblade wrote:Cliffjumper's windows are solid opaque plastic instead of painted translucent plastic,

Which is a massive downgrade because it makes him look like a candy toy or Happy Meal toy. Seriously, where the actual smeg did people get this unholy fetish for downgrading to cheap opaque windows? :-?

Sabrblade wrote:his red is brighter and so much more vibrant, his arms and legs are the correct gray and black instead of red and black, his bazooka is metallic blue, he's got an Autobrand on his chest and on the front end of his car hood...

All of which is undercut by the shitty Happy Meal toy windows.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Buzzworthy SS Kup (2123171)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 10th, 2021 @ 10:17pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:*snip*

Sabrblade wrote:Cliffjumper's windows are solid opaque plastic instead of painted translucent plastic,
Which is a massive downgrade because it makes him look like a candy toy or Happy Meal toy. Seriously, where the actual smeg did people get this unholy fetish for downgrading to cheap opaque windows?

Sabrblade wrote:his red is brighter and so much more vibrant, his arms and legs are the correct gray and black instead of red and black, his bazooka is metallic blue, he's got an Autobrand on his chest and on the front end of his car hood...
All of which is undercut by the poopy Happy Meal toy windows.

You never had clear plastic break on you, did you? :-?