New Stock Images of Takara Tomy Mall Exclusives Earthrise Micromasters and Deluxe Airwave

As usual, don't get fooled by the photography lightning.
None of the plastic colors are changed.

I pre ordered Airwave from Target . months ago. I have no clue however when any retailer will start carrying any wave 2. I think June was the original timeframe, but with all that's happened, and some places just now getting wave 1, I'm not expecting anything anytime soon

Not a fan of the Air Razor figure at all.

The "theme/gimmick" for this line should've focused more on the Quintesson's IMO. But if "Bridges" where their focus then it should've been Space Bridges.

If 5-10 of those Microbots had a 3rd mode that combined to make a Space Bridge with Deluxe figures like Ironworks and Air Razor playing a part in it, then I'm sure they'd be flying off of shelves.

Quintesson's ranged from Human to Scout size in Season 3 not Voyager class... Allicon's should be Voyager, Gnaw/Sharticon's should be Deluxe while Quintesson's should've been Micro Masters or Legends class with a Scraplet alt-mode. And every last one of them would've sold like hotcakes.

True or not..?

YoungPrime wrote:Not a fan of the Air Razor figure at all.

The "theme/gimmick" for this line should've focused more on the Quintesson's IMO. But if "Bridges" where their focus then it should've been Space Bridges.

If 5-10 of those Microbots had a 3rd mode that combined to make a Space Bridge with Deluxe figures like Ironworks and Air Razor playing a part in it, then I'm sure they'd be flying off of shelves.

Quintesson's ranged from Human to Scout size in Season 3 not Voyager class... Allicon's should be Voyager, Gnaw/Sharticon's should be Deluxe while Quintesson's should've been Micro Masters or Legends class with a Scraplet alt-mode. And every last one of them would've sold like hotcakes.

True or not..?

Why should the Allicon be a Voyager? They were roughly the same size as Kup and Hot Rod in the movie - and much smaller than Ultra Magnus on the show.

Also Air Razor? She's not a character in this line, so surely you mean Air Wave.

Also when you say micro bots, are you on about the Micromasters or battle masters like Sound Barrier? I'd think it'd be pretty silly for the Micromasters to turn into that my self. After all, they're needed to man the bases.

Fuser and Blast Master? Yeah, I might go for those.It's a pretty nice shuttle mode. Airwave? Easy pass. I don't have shelf space for all the interconnecting base modes in this line.

If the main theme of this line was Quintessons, I would be buying less figures than I already plan to considering most of my buys from this line are the modulators, or other base forming characters.

I enjoy the little base building aspect of the Modulators because they're neat little $20 bases, designed to be bases, as opposed to the $50 scrapheaps from Titans Return. Plus, not every kid is going to the $150 Titan class figures for the Micromasters and Battlemasters to operate, so these are a good alternative.

It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I like that we're getting a cheaper way of city building as opposed to using the (mostly) forced base modes from Titans Return, and trying to figure out how to force the Titans to work together for a city. Plus, I can't wait to have a little display with Omega, Sky Lynx, and the Astro-Squad all getting ready to launch. I would include Astrotrain, but I kinda prefer his Train mode.

sol magnus wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Not a fan of the Air Razor figure at all.

The "theme/gimmick" for this line should've focused more on the Quintesson's IMO. But if "Bridges" where their focus then it should've been Space Bridges.

If 5-10 of those Microbots had a 3rd mode that combined to make a Space Bridge with Deluxe figures like Ironworks and Air Razor playing a part in it, then I'm sure they'd be flying off of shelves.

Quintesson's ranged from Human to Scout size in Season 3 not Voyager class... Allicon's should be Voyager, Gnaw/Sharticon's should be Deluxe while Quintesson's should've been Micro Masters or Legends class with a Scraplet alt-mode. And every last one of them would've sold like hotcakes.

True or not..?

Why should the Allicon be a Voyager? They were roughly the same size as Kup and Hot Rod in the movie - and much smaller than Ultra Magnus on the show.

The same reason Springer is a Voyager. I can post about 5 pictures from Season 3 where Springer, Kup and Blur are the same height. Plus Voyager class Allicon's IMO would be bigger threats and better quality.

It could be argued that Springer isn't just a voyager because of height but for parts count to help with the triple forming aspect, there's always more to it then height.

There's also the possibility that by making it a deluxe, they're thinking of the fans who will be troop building.

Not impressed with airwave but I'll probably pick him up as his pieces might look better combined with another base or bot.

ZeroWolf wrote:It could be argued that Springer isn't just a voyager because of height but for parts count to help with the triple forming aspect, there's always more to it then height.

There's also the possibility that by making it a deluxe, they're thinking of the fans who will be troop building.

Who said they still can't if it was a Voyager..? 7 Different SIEGE Seekers flew off shelves last year. Plus an 8th one (Hot Link) doing well to. All of which are the same mold for $30 a piece.
But I'd be okay with this current Allicon if the alt-mode didn't looks like this:


Hopefully it's just not proper transformed because the initial plan to buy 4 of these is plummeting to 0. But feel free to buy as many of them as you like.

People bought those seekers because they were different characters of a type that has 17(!) variations. It's harder to get people to troop build at a voyager level because of price and space. Plus I think there's little hope of a mis-transformation there but who knows till it shows up in stores. I'll be getting mine online, little hope of UK bricks and mortar getting it in.

I'm troop building Alicon. I agree his alt. mode could be better, but it's also the only official version we've ever gotten. Plus it's good enough for my Quintesson army.

ZeroWolf wrote:People bought those seekers because they were different characters of a type that has 17(!) variations. It's harder to get people to troop build at a voyager level because of price and space. Plus I think there's little hope of a mis-transformation there but who knows till it shows up in stores. I'll be getting mine online, little hope of UK bricks and mortar getting it in.

The price of them is still relative.

$30 a pop!

So I believe the same people who spent $210+ on 7 Voyagers class Seekers of the same mold last year (4 of them for the sake of troop building since rainmakers only had one feature while Red Wing wasn't on Sunbow at all) wouldn't mind buying 2 or more Voyager class Allicon's if they had made them that way instead of Quintessons.

I think the Alicons should have had better alt modes and been voyagers. While the Sharkticons being smaller deluxe. The Quintessons being double micromaster size or the 10$ price point. But thats just me, I wont be buying any of them since I got the upgraded legends class 3rd pary Sharkticons and Alicons with the roughly legends size Quintessons KO's or whatever they were. If Hasbro/Takara had done that, I would have spent a whole lot of money.

What are these Quentisons everyone's talking about? We've just seen the Judge right? Also, did they redo the sharkitcon's again, or do we just have the... (legion?) ones from Titan's Return? Feel like I missed something here. ALicon looks cool.. but those arms are *really* phoned in...

SpikeyTigertron wrote:What are these Quentisons everyone's talking about? We've just seen the Judge right? Also, did they redo the sharkitcon's again, or do we just have the... (legion?) ones from Titan's Return? Feel like I missed something here. ALicon looks cool.. but those arms are *really* phoned in...

No it's only the judge and Alicon we've seen so far but there is a listing for a deluxe quint in the Netflix subline and the rumours of the deluxe quintessa (thinking about it, its entirely possible that quintessa and the Netflix one are in fact two different decos of the same toy)

ZeroWolf wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:What are these Quentisons everyone's talking about? We've just seen the Judge right? Also, did they redo the sharkitcon's again, or do we just have the... (legion?) ones from Titan's Return? Feel like I missed something here. ALicon looks cool.. but those arms are *really* phoned in...

No it's only the judge and Alicon we've seen so far but there is a listing for a deluxe quint in the Netflix subline and the rumours of the deluxe quintessa (thinking about it, its entirely possible that quintessa and the Netflix one are in fact two different decos of the same toy)

The "DELUXE QUINTESSA" listings already turned out to mean "DELUXE QUINTESS. A.", as in "Deluxe Quintesson Alicon". The specific listings that were "DELUXE QUINTESSA" were revealed to be the Deluxe Alicon. Many are assuming the Deluxe "Quintesson" for the Netflix line will also be the Alicon.

All these listings get confusing after a while Even so these are the only quints a transforming toyline needs unless the line takes a page out of Studio Series playbook and includes non-transforming characters in larger price points (like Dotm megs coming with igor, or DotM Shockwave with Wheelie, Brains and a paratrooper) if people want to supplement their quints then there is the Cyberverse quint they can add.

YoungPrime wrote:The "theme/gimmick" for this line should've focused more on the Quintesson's IMO. But if "Bridges" where their focus then it should've been Space Bridges.

If 5-10 of those Microbots had a 3rd mode that combined to make a Space Bridge with Deluxe figures like Ironworks and Air Razor playing a part in it, then I'm sure they'd be flying off of shelves.

I think what you're saying is "I wish it was like this, not that," but I think it's worth noting that the underlying plan is backwards. The theme for this year is a way to combine the Battle Masters and Micromaster bases into a unifying theme, with bridges/ramps as the core gimmick. For better or for worse, Generations has since 2014 incorporated a "current year minus 30" update to vintage figures. Micromaster bases were in 1989 and 1990, with Action Master partners in 1990. Since Quintessons don't traditionally transform, they fit it in with this cycle's play feature.

I point this out because one of the things I like most about the Generations line, especially in the time since Combiner Wars, is that they incorporate historic play features, new related gimmicks, and unrelated fan wants in a comprehensive way so there's something for everyone.*

(With the caveat that G1 is always better represented than other franchises and brands.)

YoungPrime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:Not a fan of the Air Razor figure at all.

The "theme/gimmick" for this line should've focused more on the Quintesson's IMO. But if "Bridges" where their focus then it should've been Space Bridges.

If 5-10 of those Microbots had a 3rd mode that combined to make a Space Bridge with Deluxe figures like Ironworks and Air Razor playing a part in it, then I'm sure they'd be flying off of shelves.

Quintesson's ranged from Human to Scout size in Season 3 not Voyager class... Allicon's should be Voyager, Gnaw/Sharticon's should be Deluxe while Quintesson's should've been Micro Masters or Legends class with a Scraplet alt-mode. And every last one of them would've sold like hotcakes.

True or not..?

Why should the Allicon be a Voyager? They were roughly the same size as Kup and Hot Rod in the movie - and much smaller than Ultra Magnus on the show.

The same reason Springer is a Voyager. I can post about 5 pictures from Season 3 where Springer, Kup and Blur are the same height. Plus Voyager class Allicon's IMO would be bigger threats and better quality.

I would have thought Springer was a voyager because he's a triple changer. Inconsistencies aside, all the 86 cars were generally larger than most of their 84-85 brethren, minus Grapple, Inferno, Ironhide and Ratchet.

As far as the Allicon, and this is just my opinion, they got it right. There's not much to them, really - just another type of Sharkticon. MAybe slightly smarter.

So should we be expecting voyager figures for Kup and Blurr as well, since they were the same height in those shots?

Rodimus Prime wrote:So should we be expecting voyager figures for Kup and Blurr as well, since they were the same height in those shots?

They could be big deluxes, like Ironhide, Impactor or Hoist. Why would they need to be Voyagers?

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So should we be expecting voyager figures for Kup and Blurr as well, since they were the same height in those shots?

They could be big deluxes, like Ironhide or Hoist. Why would they need to be Voyagers?

YoungPrime stated that Alicon should be voyager because it was the same height in the movie as Blurr and Kup, who were the same size as Springer in some season 3 episodes and Springer got a voyager figure. I was just responding to that. And I agree, at least Kup should be the same size as Ironhide. Blurr can be smaller, as I suspect if we do get Blurr in WFC, he'll be a retool of Arcee.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So should we be expecting voyager figures for Kup and Blurr as well, since they were the same height in those shots?

They could be big deluxes, like Ironhide or Hoist. Why would they need to be Voyagers?

YoungPrime stated that Alicon should be voyager because it was the same height in the movie as Blurr and Kup, who were the same size as Springer in some season 3 episodes and Springer got a voyager figure. I was just responding to that. And I agree, at least Kup should be the same size as Ironhide. Blurr can be smaller, as I suspect if we do get Blurr in WFC, he'll be a retool of Arcee.

He did. I said Allicon makes more sense as a Deluxe.

I can't disagree in some episodes Springer was the same size as the rest of the main 86 cast, since they sort of made them all larger for whatever reason, but there are definitely on screen moments where he's bigger than them, but smaller than Magnus. Particularly the movie end scene for one.

I pretty much think HasTak got the size on Springer right. I think they got the size of Allicon right. Switching over to Masterpiece, Hot Rod is (correctly) taller than the 'average' car, but still shorter than Ironhide. Springer would probably be around the same height as Inferno/Grapple, but that's speculation and opinion on my part - to be fair, the toy of Springer was SMALLER than all the 1986 cars, so there's room for argument.

I'm sure somebody will run in with a chair shot to say "scale don't matter" or something.

Scale does matter to me for Transformers. BUT, the G1 show should not be used for scaling purposes! The sizes were never consistent due it being a cheaply made show for kids. So far I only have had one problem with the sizes of the siege/ER figures and that being Impactor. I just wish he would have been a voyager, but they gave us the IDW head so I am happy.

Also, can we please stop arguing about the size of the Alicon? Hasbro is making him as a deluxe. If you don't like it get a 3rd party or hope for an upscaled KO figure of the ER one.

Now for a different subject, when do you think there will be more reveals? There are still plenty of exclusives and wave 4 that need to be shown. I personally can not wait to see what other base-formers and obscure characters are coming.

Normally we would have a series of SDCC reveals, but those are cancelled. Instead Hasbro will reveal during an upcoming Fan First Friday. Each of their other major brands have been featured lately, so I think the next set of reveals cold be as soon as two days from now.

I'd say we could get some reveals end of June, mid-July at the latest. Personally, I hope we get to see the rumored Bumblebee figure so we can get a rough idea of the rumored Bugbite.

And in the realm of unlikely, I hope we see that rumored Cheetor and RID Prime, but I still doubt they're going to be made

All good things to those who wait

How often ahead do they usually reveal? It was what, three months between NYCC and when the figures were available on Hasbro Pulse? If that is so and we know what is dropping all the way till September, would we get any reveals before then?

I'm really hoping there is either one non-GEEWUN figure left in Earthrise or, if still G1, something we haven't seen done in CHUG proper before like a G1 cartoon accurate Alpha Trion or Elita-1 (granted odds are the Netflix one is just a Chromia retool).

aronjlove wrote:How often ahead do they usually reveal? It was what, three months between NYCC and when the figures were available on Hasbro Pulse? If that is so and we know what is dropping all the way till September, would we get any reveals before then?

You don't have to do elaborate math and speculation. Hasbro has done product reveals on each of the last three Fridays, for Marvel Legends, Power Rangers Lightning Collection, and Star Wars Black Series and Vintage Collection. Transformers is the only one of their core collector brands that hasn't gotten the treatment yet. I can't promise that it will be Generations versus Studio Series, or mainline versus retailer exclusives, but we will get our reveals anyday now.

Based on the latest MPM news, I would bet money it's going to happen this week.

So when we get more news about new models/toys? June?

Microbot wrote:So when we get more news about new models/toys? June?

Hopefully.

Scorponok Box Art on Hasbro Pulse (sorry I cannot post links form work, but its there...)

o.supreme wrote:Scorponok Box Art on Hasbro Pulse (sorry I cannot post links form work, but its there...)

Yup, and back in stock too https://hasbropulse.com/collections/back-in-stock/products/transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-earthrise-titan-wfc-e25-scorponok

Yeah I pre-ordered mine a while back, I got excited when I saw *back in stock* and actually thought it was released... not just back in stock to pre-order...

aronjlove wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Scorponok Box Art on Hasbro Pulse (sorry I cannot post links form work, but its there...)

Yup, and back in stock too https://hasbropulse.com/collections/back-in-stock/products/transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-earthrise-titan-wfc-e25-scorponok

Where are you guys seeing the box art photo? All I see in the Pulse Listing are the same photos that have been there.

I got an email from Hasbro Pulse that has this image
and the text above that image is

Transformers Fans! We're giving you a FIRST look at the packaging art for the Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Earthrise Titan WFC-E25 Scorponok figure! This art is jam packed with epic action that is truly MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!



And even better news... it's BACK IN STOCK!

But when I click the image I just get a bigger image. Let me see if I can find an actual link.Nevermind, from what I can tell that image is all that has been shown but I found this at Tformers.com

Aaaaaannnnnnddddd speaking of Pulse, I just got an email saying Doubledealer is pushed back till August. My heart says no but my wallet says yes?

Will we see any reveals soon?

I've seen some articles about SDCC having some *virtual* panels even though the convention itself is canceled. Whether or not Hasbro plans to do any of these, or just do slow burns throughout the Summer with *Fan-Fridays* on Pulse is anybody's guess...

Thanks to Hasbro's Facebook page, Seibertronian aronjlove, and an email from those subscribed to Pulse updates, we have some cool new images to bring to you of War for Cybertron Earthrise Titan Class Scorponok!

This possible biggest-ever Decepticon figure deserves some good packaging, and that's what he gets! These shots show off the front and side of the packaging, as well as a shot of the figure standing next to his box. The impressive box art shows the gargantuan Decepticon with Optimus Prime clutched in his claw, with the Ark in the background.








Also, if you missed out on preordering him via Pulse, he's back up for preorder there again. Just click on any of the pictures above to be taken to his Pulse listing.

Does this make the anticipation harder to bear? Tell us what you think below, and se what your optics can spy in the artwork.

Is that megs shooting Scorpy on the side of the box? I know Double Dealer is swooping in on the background.

The box art proportions look... Off? Like, his arms look a little too long, at least to me. Still super excisted to get this guy. Just hope that the die-cast Scorponok from Titans Return looks good on the Mega Zarak part

That might be the greatest box art ever made

Bad ass!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:That might be the greatest box art ever made

It's definitely top tier. Speaking of which...I know there are books which collect original TF Box Art.... Has anyone suggested to Hasbro to TT to publish a book for more modern Toybox art? I'd love to have a coffee table type book that had all the art from Unite Warriors, the Titans, even most of Hasbro's standard releases going back from CW to current are pretty neat.

That looks awesome!! I can't wait to get him.. hopefully he won't get delayed like Doubledealer has been - just got the Hasbro Pulse email about 3 hours ago