Official Images of CM's Corp Minerva and Ginrai Prototype
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Minelba (Minerva)





Ginrai (Prototype)






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Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 16th, 2012 @ 4:28am CST

Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 16th, 2012 @ 5:19am CST
Nemesis Destron wrote:Not bad with these latest images. I will say they are a hell of a lot better than those lame ass sh*ts they have on Prime...'nuff said!
Well, these are $100 high-end action figures, those are almost completely non-poseable pack-in PVC statues.

Posted by joevill on February 16th, 2012 @ 7:23am CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 16th, 2012 @ 8:05am CST
Posted by rpetras on February 16th, 2012 @ 8:46am CST
Of course if these guys put out a TFA version of bot-mode Sari, I'd get that!
Posted by fenrir72 on February 16th, 2012 @ 9:01am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 16th, 2012 @ 10:23am CST
Yeah, see? Aside from their heads, these guys have no organic components in the bodies. In this state, they are no longer organic "flesh creatures".
Posted by Blurrz on February 16th, 2012 @ 4:04pm CST
Posted by grimdragon2001 on February 17th, 2012 @ 7:25am CST
Posted by El Duque on February 20th, 2012 @ 2:06am CST
Posted by Captnhooker on February 20th, 2012 @ 3:44am CST
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 20th, 2012 @ 3:53am CST

Posted by cannonfodder4000 on February 20th, 2012 @ 4:14am CST
Captnhooker wrote:Who`s the baldy one? He looks nothing like Hi-Q.
I don't know about that, only Hi-Q can pull off those glasses.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I think what's missing for all these is an angry or battle rage expression.
Ginrai comes with one, as he should.

Posted by Blurrz on February 20th, 2012 @ 4:41am CST

Posted by Swindle01 on February 20th, 2012 @ 7:59am CST
Posted by Captnhooker on February 20th, 2012 @ 8:31am CST
cannonfodder4000 wrote:Captnhooker wrote:Who`s the baldy one? He looks nothing like Hi-Q.
I don't know about that, only Hi-Q can pull off those glasses.Nemesis Destron wrote:I think what's missing for all these is an angry or battle rage expression.
Ginrai comes with one, as he should.
It looks that i`m just remember him for his "Last Autobot" appearance.
But then, you cant disagree, that this one Hi-Q is obviously kinda "Black Person".
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:41am CST
cannonfodder4000 wrote:Captnhooker wrote:Who`s the baldy one? He looks nothing like Hi-Q.
I don't know about that, only Hi-Q can pull off those glasses.Nemesis Destron wrote:I think what's missing for all these is an angry or battle rage expression.
Ginrai comes with one, as he should.
Good to know especially for those way too happy-go-lucky expressions for Minerva. Yeah I get the anime style, I have my share of interest of anime but looking at these latest pics I can't stop thinking of Kirby with that helmet on and that same face....


Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 11:10am CST
No, it just that, without any paint apps, Hi-Q's figure here *looks* Black. But, no, he's White (as most Nebulons were in Marvel).Swindle01 wrote:so the marvel comic ginrai is a black dude? hmmmm
He was bald originally, only growing some hair much later in the comic's run.Captnhooker wrote:Who`s the baldy one? He looks nothing like Hi-Q.


Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 20th, 2012 @ 12:18pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:No, it just that, without any paint apps, Hi-Q's figure here *looks* Black. But, no, he's White (as all Nebulons were in Marvel).Swindle01 wrote:so the marvel comic ginrai is a black dude? hmmmm
You're forgetting Brisko:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Brisko
Not that one token character makes up for Nebulos being yet another alien comic book world to fall victim to what I call the Kurse of Krypton. Is there a more widely used term in comic circles?
Nonetheless, Marvel Nebulos still outperforms Rebirth Nebulos/Nebulon on most levels, IMHO.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 12:28pm CST
Yes I am, thanks. Edited me previous post to change "all" to "most".Bumblevivisector wrote:You're forgetting Brisko:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Brisko
Agreed.Bumblevivisector wrote:Not that one token character makes up for Nebulos being yet another alien comic book world to fall victim to what I call the Kurse of Krypton. Is there a more widely used term in comic circles?
Nonetheless, Marvel Nebulos still outperforms Rebirth Nebulos/Nebulon on most levels, IMHO.
Marvel Nebulos = sophisticated society with realistic political corruption and interesting culture.
Sunbow Nebulos = Saturday morning cartoon-styled alien world with green men, cliche villains, and no unique history.
Posted by Rated X on February 20th, 2012 @ 1:24pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 1:33pm CST
Why do keep calling them dolls when they're even more robotic than G.I. Joe figures?Rated X wrote:Any comparison shots on how big the dolls are compared to deluxe figures ??? They might be cool if they are scout size or smaller. But if they are barbie doll sized, then they just dont go with a classics collection. Plus the girl dolls also suggest other things that I have mentioned before that other posters disagree with me on...
They don't even have any organic body parts (aside from their heads) when in these forms on the show. the only "armor" than they "wear" in these forms are their helmets.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 20th, 2012 @ 1:41pm CST
Rated X wrote:Any comparison shots on how big the dolls are compared to deluxe figures ??? They might be cool if they are scout size or smaller. But if they are barbie doll sized, then they just dont go with a classics collection. Plus the girl dolls also suggest other things that I have mentioned before that other posters disagree with me on...
It's all in the eye of the beholder, and he is usually the pervert

Posted by Captnhooker on February 20th, 2012 @ 1:44pm CST
Posted by Rated X on February 20th, 2012 @ 2:36pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Any comparison shots on how big the dolls are compared to deluxe figures ??? They might be cool if they are scout size or smaller. But if they are barbie doll sized, then they just dont go with a classics collection. Plus the girl dolls also suggest other things that I have mentioned before that other posters disagree with me on...
It's all in the eye of the beholder, and he is usually the pervertBesides, ever seen female G.I. Joe figures, like Baroness (Ok, maybe a bad example)
It's being on display that worries me. Hispanics in Miami are very family oriented. They place being a perv in the same catagory as being a rapist. I know certain places in middle america anything goes (as Eminem suggests in his lyrics) But here in Miami, displaying one of those dolls just gives some people the wrong idea. It would give women the creeps since most of them have teenage daughters or sisters. I might want the Minerva one, but not sure if it would be displayed in my main room.

Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 3:48pm CST
Well, what if they're displayed in a non-perverted, generic pose, like just standing straight or just sitting down, with nothing sexual implied?Rated X wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Any comparison shots on how big the dolls are compared to deluxe figures ??? They might be cool if they are scout size or smaller. But if they are barbie doll sized, then they just dont go with a classics collection. Plus the girl dolls also suggest other things that I have mentioned before that other posters disagree with me on...
It's all in the eye of the beholder, and he is usually the pervertBesides, ever seen female G.I. Joe figures, like Baroness (Ok, maybe a bad example)
It's being on display that worries me. Hispanics in Miami are very family oriented. They place being a perv in the same catagory as being a rapist. I know certain places in middle america anything goes (as Eminem suggests in his lyrics) But here in Miami, displaying one of those dolls just gives some people the wrong idea. It would give women the creeps since most of them have teenage daughters or sisters. I might want the Minerva one, but not sure if it would be displayed in my main room.
Plus, like I said, they aren't even humans in this form.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 20th, 2012 @ 3:49pm CST
Rated X wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:Any comparison shots on how big the dolls are compared to deluxe figures ??? They might be cool if they are scout size or smaller. But if they are barbie doll sized, then they just dont go with a classics collection. Plus the girl dolls also suggest other things that I have mentioned before that other posters disagree with me on...
It's all in the eye of the beholder, and he is usually the pervertBesides, ever seen female G.I. Joe figures, like Baroness (Ok, maybe a bad example)
It's being on display that worries me. Hispanics in Miami are very family oriented. They place being a perv in the same catagory as being a rapist. I know certain places in middle america anything goes (as Eminem suggests in his lyrics) But here in Miami, displaying one of those dolls just gives some people the wrong idea. It would give women the creeps since most of them have teenage daughters or sisters. I might want the Minerva one, but not sure if it would be displayed in my main room.
Then I have a good story for you. The police were visiting some guy's house, when they noticed he had a collection of Transformer toys. They then asked if he was a child predator. No joke!
Posted by Blurrz on February 20th, 2012 @ 4:59pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:26pm CST
ENOUGH with the obsession with this Nonsensical, Out of Place and Trolling! Dolls, underage features, curvaceous design.....

If you don't like to buy Minerva, don't!And get out of the thread!
With apologies to other Floridians out here, would you allow such stereotyping? For those with such a mind set against those collecting figs, they can just KISS MY B*TT!
It's bad enough that prior to the anime explosion and the Bayformers movie, admit it, a lot of our "mainstream" peers looked down on us.....at least until popular culture accepted some of this in the mainstream.
I have a 15 year old nephew who knows and is aware of my main G1 TF collection and sub collection of various anime figs. He knows the difference between an ero fig and a main line General Patronage fig. I own both lines (ero and mainstream figs).
He (the 15 year old) knows the difference between an icky, yucky naked girl and a wowza high tech most excellent action figure along the lines of figma(Maxfactory), ALmecha (Alter), vmf(Yamato)and Gutto Kuro(CMs) line. He knows when to get the rise out of one and when to just enjoy the complexity of a fig. Showing the 15 year olda pic of Minerva, well he doesn't find her anywhere near erotic at all.......in fact she's kinda skinny according to him.
So If a 15 year old can tell the difference while supposed Floridian adults can't..........then I fear for your future (get your priorities straight for heavens sake!)
I second Blurrz x infinity........let's talk about the merit of the toys and not the distractions!
1.When will she be available?
2.How much?
3.Quality?
4.Wished they'd make a scaled transtector body for her

5.Is her armor cast off


Addendum:
Btw, she's a bit taller than a Voyager fig. That's their usual size range.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:29pm CST
How tall are these Suit Mode Autobots?
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:34pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:38pm CST
That's about 10 inches, right?fenrir72 wrote:Around the size of G1 Defensor's height.
Though, do you mean Minerva or Ginrai being that tall (Ginrai's taller than she is)?
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:45pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 10:51pm CST
So, Ginrai's about a foot tall, then?fenrir72 wrote:Minerva more or less around that height. Ginrai I estimate to be maxed to Defensor's (being an adult compared to teeny booper in the anime)
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2012 @ 11:15pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2012 @ 11:20pm CST
but he's taller than Minerva.fenrir72 wrote:Less than that, 8 to 9 inches.
Okay, let me clarify. Who is Defensor's height, Minerva or Ginrai?
Posted by fenrir72 on February 20th, 2012 @ 11:57pm CST
Reference G1 Defensors' height. He is more or less 10 inches.
More or less based on the reference picture, I'd say Ginrai is around the same maximum height.
Minerva more or less shorter, some extrapolation, Minerva around 8 inches while Ginrai maxed to 10 inches. That simple.
I'm sure with Minerva's range because I own 2 of CMs Gutto Kuro line so I'd give that a rough estimate.
Addition:
I'm copy pasting the specs of #46 Noriko of Gunbuster
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
Specifications
Pre-painted Action Figure
Size: Appx. 200mm Tall
Material: PVC, ABS
[Set Contents]
-Main figure
-Optional face parts x5
-Optional hand parts x 12
-Battle costume x1
-Gym uniform x 1
-Headband (blue, yellow) x 1 each
-GuColle stand set
I've placed the size in bold fonts...........around 200 mm, so Minerva should more or less be along this measurement.
So, anyone get a "rise" out of Noriko?

Posted by El Duque on March 9th, 2012 @ 8:00am CST
Posted by Rated X on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:03am CST

Posted by Tigertrack on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:08am CST
Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ???
There are plenty. 12" GI JOE collectors buy lots of 'dolls'.
And there are many fans of character action figures male or female.
This is not my cup of tea, but I do like the Minerva.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:54am CST

Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 9th, 2012 @ 12:39pm CST
Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ???
Women would call them "dolls"
Men call them "Action Figures"
For further education I'd suggest you look into S.H. FiguArts, S.I.C., or even D-Arts figures

Posted by fenrir72 on March 9th, 2012 @ 7:14pm CST


But if you wanna get a "rise" from one and tick off them uptight sexually repressed idiots from Florida try this instead
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
and
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
You can actually strip off their costumes.
Posted by Rated X on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:26pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ???
Women would call them "dolls"
Men call them "Action Figures"
For further education I'd suggest you look into S.H. FiguArts, S.I.C., or even D-Arts figures
No, male collectors call them "action figures" to sugarcoat the truth.
Men call them "dolls".
It may be expensive, based off a boys cartoon, and look great in a man cave, but it's still a doll.
My name aint, Willy Wonka. I dont sugarcoat s**t.

Posted by Rated X on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:41pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:@ Rated XThis is getting old with your "doll" fetish again.
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But if you wanna get a "rise" from one and tick off them uptight sexually repressed idiots from Florida try this instead
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
and
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1
You can actually strip off their costumes.
Those actually look pretty cool. But as I clearly stated before, the hispanic population in south Florida is very family oriented and protective of their daughters. Having a bunch of erotic young looking dolls in your house will just make people talk s**t about you. I know in some parts of middle America, anything goes from incest to polygamy. But not in Miami.
I am by no means saying you or anyone on this forum do such things. Im just being honest. It's kind of like putting a Jessica Rabbit doll in youre living room and saying youre an cartoon fan.

Posted by fenrir72 on March 9th, 2012 @ 9:42pm CST
A doll is a toy of a human being, often used as a toy for children. Dolls have traditionally been used in magic and religious rituals throughout the world, and traditional dolls made of materials like clay and wood are found in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Europe. The earliest documented dolls go back to the ancient civilizations of Egypt, Greece and Rome. Dolls being used as toys was documented in Greece around 100AD. They have been made as crude, rudimentary playthings as well as elaborate art. Modern doll manufacturing has its roots in Germany going back to the 15th century. With industrialization and the appearance of new materials like porcelain and plastic, dolls were increasingly mass produced. During the 20th century dolls became increasingly popular as collectibles.
Action figure
An action figure is a posable character figurine, made of plastic or other materials, and often based upon characters from a film, comic book, video game, or television program. These action figures are usually marketed towards boys and male collectors. Redressable action figures are sometimes called action dolls [1] to distinguish them from those with all or most of the clothes molded on.
It is argued that action figures are particularly popular with boys because they represent traditional masculine traits and are closely associated with the public sphere.[2] While most commonly marketed as a children's toy, the action figure has gained wide acceptance as an adult collector item. In such a case, the item may be produced and designed on the assumption it will be bought solely for display.
from wiki
Posted by Rated X on March 9th, 2012 @ 10:04pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:Doll
A doll is a toy of a human being, often used as a toy for children. Dolls have traditionally been used in magic and religious rituals throughout the world, and traditional dolls made of materials like clay and wood are found in the Americas, Asia, Africa and Europe. The earliest documented dolls go back to the ancient civilizations of Egypt, Greece and Rome. Dolls being used as toys was documented in Greece around 100AD. They have been made as crude, rudimentary playthings as well as elaborate art. Modern doll manufacturing has its roots in Germany going back to the 15th century. With industrialization and the appearance of new materials like porcelain and plastic, dolls were increasingly mass produced. During the 20th century dolls became increasingly popular as collectibles.
Action figure
An action figure is a posable character figurine, made of plastic or other materials, and often based upon characters from a film, comic book, video game, or television program. These action figures are usually marketed towards boys and male collectors. Redressable action figures are sometimes called action dolls [1] to distinguish them from those with all or most of the clothes molded on.
It is argued that action figures are particularly popular with boys because they represent traditional masculine traits and are closely associated with the public sphere.[2] While most commonly marketed as a children's toy, the action figure has gained wide acceptance as an adult collector item. In such a case, the item may be produced and designed on the assumption it will be bought solely for display.
from wiki
Here are some posable character figurines that are all geared toward boys and male collectors. So I guess you would consider them "action figures" too ???




Posted by fenrir72 on March 9th, 2012 @ 10:10pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on March 9th, 2012 @ 11:10pm CST
That is such a narrow-minded, sexist, and offensive thing to say.Rated X wrote:How many people plan to buy a male doll ???

People buy toys of the characters they like. And, IMHO, Ginrai was the greatest Autobot leader of all the Autobot leaders in the entire Generation 1 era. That's right, I said it. The greatest Generation 1 Autobot commander was a "Puny Fleshling".

Rated X, what is your problem with human toys?Rated X wrote:No, male collectors call them "action figures" to sugarcoat the truth.
Men call them "dolls".
It may be expensive, based off a boys cartoon, and look great in a man cave, but it's still a doll.
My name aint, Willy Wonka. I dont sugarcoat s**t.
Do you really think that the term "doll" is appropriate for such human toys as G.I. Joe, Power Rangers, Action Man, DC superheros, Marvel superheroes, LEGO people, He-Man, the Simpsons, Family Guy, etc., even when they're made out of plastic and have no soft, felt material buolt into them?
Why, did you also cry "foul" when Kicker got his own toys in Energon?

Or how about Ga'Mede, who came with e-Hobby Magnificus?

Or even Jack, Miko, and Raf?

In fact, as I have told you time and again, Minerva and Ginrai, in these forms, ARE. NOT! HUMAN!!!!

Honestly, in the words of someone on TFWiki, it's people like you who take your "manly, tough, not-at-all-nerdy, children's-toy-collecting, kid's-cartoon-watching hobby way too seriously."
Ask yourself good and well how any of this applies at all to Ginrai, who is the main topic that we're discussing here.Rated X wrote:Those actually look pretty cool. But as I clearly stated before, the hispanic population in south Florida is very family oriented and protective of their daughters. Having a bunch of erotic young looking dolls in your house will just make people talk s**t about you. I know in some parts of middle America, anything goes from incest to polygamy. But not in Miami.
I am by no means saying you or anyone on this forum do such things. Im just being honest. It's kind of like putting a Jessica Rabbit doll in youre living room and saying youre an cartoon fan.
And even in regards to Minerva, there's nothing erotic about a girl whose body (minus her head) is made up entirely of robot parts and has nothing to reveal on her body.
Why, most fanmade Arcee toys look more erotic than CM Corp's Minerva figure.
And not a single one of those four fall into the same category of toy as this Ginrai figure does. Nice try, but no cigar.Rated X wrote:Here are some posable character figurines that are all geared toward boys and male collectors. So I guess you would consider them "action figures" too ???

Posted by Rated X on March 9th, 2012 @ 11:29pm CST
As far as my hate for "human" toys, I always saw robots as the "cool" alternitve. 1980's GI joe was cool too because they were small unlike the 60's versions that could go side by side with your sisters Barbies.