Scale Comparison for Titans Return Fastclash and Titan Master Compatibility Revealed

ScottyP wrote:Of course they could have "done more". This is almost always true. Will, you seem especially price conscious for these products throughout the various discussions on these boards. Would you be willing to pay $125-$150 for these sets if it meant more tooling? Hasbro likely has numbers to say that the aggregate of the fandom wouldn't.

Not seeing more retooling isn't laziness, it's cost control.

Hey Scotty I realize I never replied about the cost based reasoning. I totally get that and see why it was done this way. Afterall, Victorion had a retooling and new weapons but all the other non exclusive boxsets were straight redecos. But I find that one smarter than what they did with Quckswitch here. The G2 redecos make perfect sense as redecos because thats what the G2 toys were. Its why no one minds when they redeco a seeker mold into a different seeker. Its cost saving there too, but it fits with the character. With Quickswitch, that same cost saving is there but made more apparent because that toy was very different from Six Shot. If they wanted to do a straight redeco of Sixshot, Greatshot would have been better since thats exactly what Greatshot is (just like with the G2 CW redecos). You would have preferred Greatshot too right?

In the end, I get the cost conscious aspect, but I would preffer it they worked that into doing redecos which made more sense (and of course, not tease us with possible retooling, but thats another thing).

Bronzewolf wrote:

Qwan wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:it was misfire
the 4th deluxe in wave 5 said wolfwire. im thinking that was a placeholder for slugslinger

If this is the case I'll be severely disappointed as I missed out on Wolfy the first time around and was really hoping to get him now. I just completed my OG Autobot Headmasters and he's the last one I need to complete the OG Cons. (Ironically, Wolfwire is the one I wanted most out of the first couple waves 'cause he's just a wittle pupper shnuppers, yes he is, yes he is!)

"Call me what, you did? A big mistake mate, that was"

Ahhhhh, that was too good. Perfect image!

I don't think that the Wolfwire listing was a placeholder. Given that every other Deluxe from the first 2 waves has seen a re-release, it would make sense for WW to get one too - and I don't remember placeholder listings ever being a thing before, at least in TR? (I could be wrong on that though.) I'd say chances are still good of WW seeing re-release in Wave 5... the only thing then is, how many places are actually going to get Wave 5 in.

It's a good point. You've got TLK coming in hard over the next few weeks. I have a fear that anything else TF related (whether that's TR or otherwise) is going to get blindsided. That's not the end a great line like this deserves.

A few things to mention here.
1- the news of wolfwire being in wave 5 came directly from a supplier who has a direct account with hasbro. They gave him a wave breakdown and he then gave it to his client.
2- about TLK toys drowning out the rest, hasbro stated that all lines would coexist and you should be able to find the toys you are looking for. Not saying thats whats going to happen, but at least they are aware of our concerns. We will see what good that does.

Randomhero wrote:

https://twitter.com/matty0984/status/845085651448086529

Honestly I like Nautica a lot better when I'm looking at her in a group shot. I actually think she looks more distinct from Brainstorm and Blurr when she's right next to them - which isn't the kind of thing that normally works that way!


And the Clones, I think, are a pretty lateral situation. I would've been equally happy with either slightly-above-Legends-class without TM compatibility, or straight-up Legends class with the ability to cart TMs around (which is what we're getting after all, it seems). Hypothetical best- and worst-case scenarios are above-Legends with TM compatibility, or Legends without TM compatibility, respectively - but either of the two most likely outcomes would have been alright with me.

Qwan wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

https://twitter.com/matty0984/status/845085651448086529

Honestly I like Nautica a lot better when I'm looking at her in a group shot. I actually think she looks more distinct from Brainstorm and Blurr when she's right next to them - which isn't the kind of thing that normally works that way!


And the Clones, I think, are a pretty lateral situation. I would've been equally happy with either slightly-above-Legends-class without TM compatibility, or straight-up Legends class with the ability to cart TMs around (which is what we're getting after all, it seems). Hypothetical best- and worst-case scenarios are above-Legends with TM compatibility, or Legends without TM compatibility, respectively - but either of the two most likely outcomes would have been alright with me.

I was telling someone else I don't see three retools. I see three characters that I know and love.

william-james88 wrote:












AutobotMirage
TF-fan kev777

Works for me.

william-james88 wrote:

oh wow that looks stupid. That alt mode is simply terrible.

Titanmaster Rodimus looks so much like Headstrong.

It seems so strange that Takara is dragging it's heels with Kup & Hotrod. I guess they may have stopped or slowed down the line while the Movie 5 stuff is current. But I want to see what Takara Hotrod looks like and I want to seem them start repainting the later Titanmaster vehicles too. As many people have speculated their Kup may be quite different in colour too. it would be so strange to make Blurr and not Kup & Hotrod - they should reissue Japanese Blurr too as he's so hard to get and he's a nice complement to the other two.

Oh and taking on the idea of Boxed sets forever... There is always the idea of Flywheels from Blitwing to keep dredging up too as a possible item of inclusion. You might be able to make Siren/Loundmouth out of Hotrod too if you strip the pipes & Tail off and give him some roof lights and a nice paint job - he might need a new chest - but I think it can pass if it has too.

I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

RAR wrote:Titanmaster Rodimus looks so much like Headstrong.

It seems so strange that Takara is dragging it's heels with Kup & Hotrod. I guess they may have stopped or slowed down the line while the Movie 5 stuff is current. But I want to see what Takara Hotrod looks like and I want to seem them start repainting the later Titanmaster vehicles too. As many people have speculated their Kup may be quite different in colour too. it would be so strange to make Blurr and not Kup & Hotrod - they should reissue Japanese Blurr too as he's so hard to get and he's a nice complement to the other two.

Oh and taking on the idea of Boxed sets forever... There is always the idea of Flywheels from Blitwing to keep dredging up too as a possible item of inclusion. You might be able to make Siren/Loundmouth out of Hotrod too if you strip the pipes & Tail off and give him some roof lights and a nice paint job - he might need a new chest - but I think it can pass if it has too.

It is a big question on what's going on with Takara. Next figure is trypticon and he's not out for 6 months. They're sitting on a lot of good molds and retools and before anyone says "Takara doesn't do repaints" they do, they do a lot, they just don't do the ones Hasbro does. Does make me wonder if they're taking an indefinite hiatus for a while after Trypticon.

It took two and half years for them to release Skids. They teased a Jhiaxus and I was pumped for that and it never happened, Hell, were getting more Japanese characters from Hasbro than Takara, overlord, metalhawk, black shadow, the headmaster juniors.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:If this is the case I'll be severely disappointed as I missed out on Wolfy the first time around and was really hoping to get him now. I just completed my OG Autobot Headmasters and he's the last one I need to complete the OG Cons. (Ironically, Wolfwire is the one I wanted most out of the first couple waves 'cause he's just a wittle pupper shnuppers, yes he is, yes he is!)

I'm not sure where you are located, but I've seen a number of Wolfwires in Walgreens (Chicago area) while hunting for Wave 4.

Question, just because I was there a few weeks ago: are you finding them in Walgreens that are actually in the city proper, or in walgreens around the suburbs or farther out? I went to both a walgreens and a target in the city proper and they had no TF;s whatsoever

Suburbs. I live in the Homewood and work in Northbrook. There are a ridiculous like 15 stores within 15 miles of each. I've also seen Brainstorm the most if you have missed out on him so far.

RodimusRex wrote:I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

Wasnt the last takara rodimus release the Cloud Rodimus figure?

Randomhero wrote:

RAR wrote:Titanmaster Rodimus looks so much like Headstrong.

It seems so strange that Takara is dragging it's heels with Kup & Hotrod. I guess they may have stopped or slowed down the line while the Movie 5 stuff is current. But I want to see what Takara Hotrod looks like and I want to seem them start repainting the later Titanmaster vehicles too. As many people have speculated their Kup may be quite different in colour too. it would be so strange to make Blurr and not Kup & Hotrod - they should reissue Japanese Blurr too as he's so hard to get and he's a nice complement to the other two.

Oh and taking on the idea of Boxed sets forever... There is always the idea of Flywheels from Blitwing to keep dredging up too as a possible item of inclusion. You might be able to make Siren/Loundmouth out of Hotrod too if you strip the pipes & Tail off and give him some roof lights and a nice paint job - he might need a new chest - but I think it can pass if it has too.

It is a big question on what's going on with Takara. Next figure is trypticon and he's not out for 6 months. They're sitting on a lot of good molds and retools and before anyone says "Takara doesn't do repaints" they do, they do a lot, they just don't do the ones Hasbro does. Does make me wonder if they're taking an indefinite hiatus for a while after Trypticon.

It took two and half years for them to release Skids. They teased a Jhiaxus and I was pumped for that and it never happened, Hell, were getting more Japanese characters from Hasbro than Takara, overlord, metalhawk, black shadow, the headmaster juniors.

The day they pass on a Rodimus mold is the day they declare bankruptcy, if I understand the Japanese fandom at all.

RodimusRex wrote:I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

If they do that toy it'll either be like the other colors they've done from United or Henkai Henkai or go Magenta like the MP(which is the only reason I'll get takaras). They try their best to be as accurate as possible. I don't see Takara taking a straight hot rod toy with his sports car and giving it that brownish deco to make it look like Rodimus prime,

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

Wasnt the last takara rodimus release the Cloud Rodimus figure?

Er... Last RETAIL release.

http://toys.tfw2005.com/rodimus-convoy-3-5953

RodimusRex wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

Wasnt the last takara rodimus release the Cloud Rodimus figure?

Er... Last RETAIL release.

http://toys.tfw2005.com/rodimus-convoy-3-5953

Turns out I was wrong too. This is the last Takara retail release of Rodimus

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:If this is the case I'll be severely disappointed as I missed out on Wolfy the first time around and was really hoping to get him now. I just completed my OG Autobot Headmasters and he's the last one I need to complete the OG Cons. (Ironically, Wolfwire is the one I wanted most out of the first couple waves 'cause he's just a wittle pupper shnuppers, yes he is, yes he is!)

I'm not sure where you are located, but I've seen a number of Wolfwires in Walgreens (Chicago area) while hunting for Wave 4.

Question, just because I was there a few weeks ago: are you finding them in Walgreens that are actually in the city proper, or in walgreens around the suburbs or farther out? I went to both a walgreens and a target in the city proper and they had no TF;s whatsoever

Suburbs. I live in the Homewood and work in Northbrook. There are a ridiculous like 15 stores within 15 miles of each. I've also seen Brainstorm the most if you have missed out on him so far.

Thanks! The inner-city ones must just not carry the figures.

And Brainstorm was actually a figure I wasn't looking for. I love the thrilling 30 one I have

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Bronzewolf wrote:If this is the case I'll be severely disappointed as I missed out on Wolfy the first time around and was really hoping to get him now. I just completed my OG Autobot Headmasters and he's the last one I need to complete the OG Cons. (Ironically, Wolfwire is the one I wanted most out of the first couple waves 'cause he's just a wittle pupper shnuppers, yes he is, yes he is!)

I'm not sure where you are located, but I've seen a number of Wolfwires in Walgreens (Chicago area) while hunting for Wave 4.

Question, just because I was there a few weeks ago: are you finding them in Walgreens that are actually in the city proper, or in walgreens around the suburbs or farther out? I went to both a walgreens and a target in the city proper and they had no TF;s whatsoever

Suburbs. I live in the Homewood and work in Northbrook. There are a ridiculous like 15 stores within 15 miles of each. I've also seen Brainstorm the most if you have missed out on him so far.

Thanks! The inner-city ones must just not carry the figures.

And Brainstorm was actually a figure I wasn't looking for. I love the thrilling 30 one I have

It's a damn good brainstorm but I'd be lying if I said he wasn't in a box in my office closet. I really like the TR one being the same heights the others and everyone he chills with in MTMTE but it is a good figure and looking back it was a good experiment for what became Titans Return.

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusRex wrote:I was thinking...

The last Takara Rodimus release was Classics Hot Rod in Rodimus Prime/Convoy colors.

Do you suppose this TM Rodimus Prime head tooling could be a hint that Takara will be doing a redeco of Hot Rod (with this alternate head) in the darker Rodimus Prime deco?

Wasnt the last takara rodimus release the Cloud Rodimus figure?

Er... Last RETAIL release.

http://toys.tfw2005.com/rodimus-convoy-3-5953

Turns out I was wrong too. This is the last Takara retail release of Rodimus

*The best Takara retail release of Rodimus

I am my own robot!!! I am NOT just a purple Blurr with wingfans!!!



Oh, damnit!!!



Honestly, I actually like the figure even though it is literally Blurr with 2 wing pieces pressed into the arms. My honest first impression of Blurr was that his slim body could easily be used for a fembot.

Randomhero wrote:It is a big question on what's going on with Takara. Next figure is trypticon and he's not out for 6 months. They're sitting on a lot of good molds and retools and before anyone says "Takara doesn't do repaints" they do, they do a lot, they just don't do the ones Hasbro does. Does make me wonder if they're taking an indefinite hiatus for a while after Trypticon.

It took two and half years for them to release Skids. They teased a Jhiaxus and I was pumped for that and it never happened, Hell, were getting more Japanese characters from Hasbro than Takara, overlord, metalhawk, black shadow, the headmaster juniors.

Maybe they're just wanting to focus on the movie line for now. TAV hasn't gotten much love either. Right now they're sitting on a ton of awesome molds between TR and RID but nothing has been announced.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I am my own robot!!! I am NOT just a purple Blurr with wingfans!!!

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Oh, damnit!!!

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Honestly, I actually like the figure even though it is literally Blurr with 2 wing pieces pressed into the arms. My honest first impression of Blurr was that his slim body could easily be used for a fembot.

I'm actually pretty sure most people were hypothesizing that Blurr would make a good fembot for quite a while - I think, though, that most of us thought he'd be used for Arcee rather than Nautica. (Similar alt-modes, precedent as a Headmaster even if it is just in The Rebirth, etc.)

But that Nautica is actually growing on me quite quickly now that we're getting in-hand photos! I think that second photo really says it all for me, because I looked at it and actually had to go "hang on, are those really all the parts that are different? That doesn't really look like the same silhouette". Even if she is just a redeco with a few new parts, those parts and deco are doing a great job of making her look quite separate from her mold-mates!

(Maybe this was Hasbro's plan all along? Give Blurr a rubbish color-scheme so that any redeco with more than two different shades would immediately look like a massively different figure? )

Randomhero wrote:

https://twitter.com/matty0984/status/845085651448086529

Man those group shots make her look better. Not perfect by any means but not terrible. I think if I get her she'll get a Shapeways faceplate and slight deco changes,

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I am my own robot!!! I am NOT just a purple Blurr with wingfans!!!

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Honestly, I actually like the figure even though it is literally Blurr with 2 wing pieces pressed into the arms. My honest first impression of Blurr was that his slim body could easily be used for a fembot.

Well, there goes the #3 body style for the Blurr mold.

Cobotron wrote:Des Moines eh? Looks like I need to jump across the river to Council Bluffs TRU Sooner than later to see what I can see.

And I definitely have to drive up to Cedar Rapids this weekend. Slim pickings in Iowa City.

So glad I kept my 3rd Party Quickswitch and SixKnight. While I do enjoy my Titans Return SixShot the fact that QuickSwitch is not a completely different mold, I would have preferred a different mold or some serious retooling and the only people to get it right is FansProject.

Anyone still trying to figure out the rest of the sets?

From what we know, the Titan Masters are random, though Thunderwing and Rodimus Prime share chest molds (which may mean the 4 face plates and chest are gang-molded), we know the Clones, but the Deluxes and up are harder to figure out. To help out, here are the molds that haven't had their secondary tooling revealed, if any:

Deluxe
Hot Rod
Scourge
Highbrow
Weirdwolf
Perceptor
Doublecross
Kup
Mindwipe

Voyager
Alpha Trion
Galvatron

Leader Class
Powermaster Optimus Prime (but since the retooled mold appears as Magnus Prime, he's out)

I don'y know about the rest but Thunderwing's titanmaster shares parts with Fangry like the robot head.

Deadput wrote:I don'y know about the rest but Thunderwing's titanmaster shares parts with Fangry like the robot head.

And Rodimus uses Ptero/Swoop as the base. They could be anyone in the Titan Master Class

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyone still trying to figure out the rest of the sets?

From what we know, the Titan Masters are random, though Thunderwing and Rodimus Prime share chest molds (which may mean the 4 face plates and chest are gang-molded), we know the Clones, but the Deluxes and up are harder to figure out. To help out, here are the molds that haven't had their secondary tooling revealed, if any:

Deluxe
Hot Rod
Scourge
Highbrow
Weirdwolf
Perceptor
Doublecross
Kup
Mindwipe

Voyager
Alpha Trion
Galvatron

Leader Class
Powermaster Optimus Prime (but since the retooled mold appears as Magnus Prime, he's out)

Would the chests and face-plates be molded together? I'm not too sure about how the actual molding process works, but since the chests are plastic and the faces are die-cast I wouldn't think it would be possible to mold them together. (I could be wrong though; I really have very little idea how the process works.)

And from those molds, the ones I'm willing to guess as secondary toolings are Kup into Crosshairs and Perceptor into Magnificus (that one, in particular, still seems like a very box-set kind of thing to me). In fact, if we assume that Kup will be turned into Crosshairs, that's further evidence that it'll be in a box-set - since we know from the Steeljaw situation that Hasbro prefers not to have different characters with the same name on the shelves at the same time, and TLK toys are about to strike in full force, it's unlikely for a hypothetical TR Crosshairs to be seeing mass retail any time soon. (Of course, they could always just give him a slightly modified name like Crossblast or Xrosshairx and then everything would be fine and dandy.)

Also, what about Windblade? If Scourge and Highbrow can count as unique then presumably she's also unique enough to have her own secondary tooling. Not sure what that one would be either, though.

Also also, we can't rule out any molds just because we've already seen a second use of them like Chromedome and Breakaway. Not only have we seen straight redecos of figures already released to mass retail (G2 Prime), we've also gotten Nautica who marks the third notably distinct tooling of that mold. Basically nothing's for certain, and I can almost guarantee that like half the figures in these upcoming sets are going to totally blindside us.

Yet there us going to be Rid Drift's and Movie Drift's on shelf at the same time with similar color schemes.

I wouldn't rule out a TR Crosshairs yet in fact his movie version might help sells with a TR version.

Deadput wrote:Yet there us going to be Rid Drift's and Movie Drift's on shelf at the same time with similar color schemes.

I wouldn't rule out a TR Crosshairs yet in fact his movie version might help sells with a TR version.

I'd argue that the similarities between RiD and Movie Drift set him in a similar boat to most Bumblebees - they're basically the same character in different lines (especially after the conscious effort to align their colors). Meanwhile, I doubt that these two have enough in common to justify that:

I fear that due to the (highly notable) differences, Hasbro would see them more as competitive moreso than complementary.

Mind you, I'm not saying that Crosshairs is impossible out of TR! In fact, I think he's one of the most likely figures to see, based on the current molds and patterns we've seen out of TR. Moreso, I'm saying that if he does happen, it'll probably be in one of the box-sets so that he doesn't interfere with sales of the other Crosshairs - whom I don't doubt we'll be seeing plenty of toys of for the next several months.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyone still trying to figure out the rest of the sets?

From what we know, the Titan Masters are random, though Thunderwing and Rodimus Prime share chest molds (which may mean the 4 face plates and chest are gang-molded), we know the Clones, but the Deluxes and up are harder to figure out. To help out, here are the molds that haven't had their secondary tooling revealed, if any:

Deluxe
Hot Rod
Scourge
Highbrow
Weirdwolf
Perceptor
Doublecross
Kup
Mindwipe

Voyager
Alpha Trion
Galvatron

Leader Class
Powermaster Optimus Prime (but since the retooled mold appears as Magnus Prime, he's out)

Don't forget about God Bomber, I think for the last two God Bomber will be one since Hasbro is releasing the Ginrai retool. I wouldn't be surprised if he's coming in one as Apex, and for the final one it'll be Twincast or Soundblaster. I'd rather have a full on Thunderwing with a new head and chest out of Black shadow but the Titan Master one kinda negates that. But hey, two Optimus Primes are in these sets. I can see for voyagers maybe a toy accurate Galvatron or maybe a lio Prime.

Also for voyagers they could do a G2 Megatron. Either all purple or all green with purple camo to go with laser Prime. I'd like that since there is a peg hole next to megatrons head for the canon to look slung over his shoulder.

Their are so many deluxe molds I won't even bother trying but I wouldn't limit it to "who in 87-88 hasn't been done yet" because the first two box sets are evidence that that doesn't matter.

Considering the boxsets seem to be going with the obscure later years of G1, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Carnivac out of Wolfwire. In fact I'm kind of crossing my fingers.

Kurona wrote:Considering the boxsets seem to be going with the obscure later years of G1, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Carnivac out of Wolfwire. In fact I'm kind of crossing my fingers.

While that could be possible, I dont think later year G1 is the main theme per se. Right now the sets not only have later year G1 but also G2, Armada and IDW characters, as well as what used to be Takara exclusives.

Inner robot or outer shell colour for Carnivac ?

How about Cybertron Snarl / Galaxy Force Fang Wolf colours too ?

Though I wouldn't say no to a G2 Megs - I kinda wish the KO makers had twigged that idea with the leader - you kinda get it with Armada Megs - but not quite. I actually like the idea of Archforce as then I can at least pretend that the more red Optimus is Sureshot if I wanted to.

I think a purple jet would look badass as well. heck I'd not mind having G2 Green, G2 Purple (no writing on it though) & Flywheels as well. and while we are at it a Combat Hero Optimus Prime & RID-2001 Scourge too (Though Takara is making that one it seems).

You could also make some kinda wacky multiple homage that draws on a lot of other things like Powered Convoys Blue/Black Robot cab with perhaps a white tanker and homage the Micromaster combiner - that one might work if it had a new head and perhaps used Octane's chest.

To make : "Oilslide"

http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Oiler/oiler.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Slide/slide.htm

Actually there is a thought - why not mix the parts up ? why not use Optimus' wings with Octane's jet nose, gun and chest for example ?

I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

Considering each known TR Leader mold has had at least 2 uses thus far (Optimus technically 3). It would be nice if God Bomber was the Leader of one of the Box sets, and the other was a reuse of a *hopefully* new Leader to be revealed in Wave 6.

Randomhero wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

Isn't Godbomber only deluxe sized?

RiddlerJ wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

Isn't Godbomber only deluxe sized?

Takara's is as tall as Super Ginrai, so slightly taller than your average TR Leader.

So...just on whim I decided to go to my local TRU this morning. Took a break form work so I showed up there just after doors opened at 10am. There were three Velocitron sets at the service desk, two were being purchased by two other guys that walked in just before me so I half-heartedly asked the clerk..."Are there any more on the shelf by chance"? . They said no, but the 3rd one could be purchased, so I got it. Apparently the other two guys were friends and just looking to see if other locations had them. There are 3 or 4 stores in my general area, and they mentioned two by name (Arden and Elk Grove). Apparently not all TRU's will be getting these, how the stores are slected though isn't currently known. I thought they would have chosen the store in a nicer area like where I got my Fort Max, but I'm not looking a gift horse in the mouth.

So if anyone is in the Sacramento CA area, the Citrus Heights store had 3 of these, of which I now have one, hopefully they will get more stock in soon.

Also I'm affectionately calling this the "family" pack. I get Quickswitch, my daughter gets Nautica, and my son gets the rest .

My TRU in Ann Arbor, MI had 3 of the box sets today. Also 2 Six Shots. So the box sets are definitely hitting everywhere if Ann Arbor got them in. We generally only see good TF stock there from about October to December.

Randomhero wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

I would love for a Blaster retool into Mainframe, but I don't see that coming.

I picked one up at Barrett Parkway in Kennesaw, GA last night. Already eBayed and shipped what I didn't want. Kept Laser Prime (for my G2 collection) and Rodimus (for my movie collection, now serving as Hot Rod's head).

There were two left on the shelf.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

I would love for a Blaster retool into Mainframe, but I don't see that coming.

It'd be nice to get a new mainframe but I don't think I'd appreciate him being leader class. For whatever reason a preceptor mold always screamed Mainframe to me. Maybe it's because they're both nerds. Though with the revelation of being a mutineer in MTMTE/LL he and the rest of them that turned against rodimus take an acid bath.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:I'm more concerned with what Leader class figures are going in those last two box sets. I have a bad feeling it's going to be Soundblaster and Twincast.

One will be fir sure, but I still believe one is gonna be Godbomber. That leaked list from last year had a couple of the figures from the box sets listed and one was Apex.

Isn't Godbomber only deluxe sized?

No he's Leader in size. He's huge. When the rumor list showed an Apex people theorized Deluxe but after seeing Legends Godbomber and his size and what he does, a deluxe would just not work at all. I think he's coming in one of the sets. It makes sense with magnus prime especially since that figure has so many connection ports for god Bomber it feels like a waste of production to not bring him out too. Who knows. We'll probably find out at HasCon or whatever it's called or a leak like we did with liokaizer and a Computron. Haven't had leaks like those in a while

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Considering the boxsets seem to be going with the obscure later years of G1, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Carnivac out of Wolfwire. In fact I'm kind of crossing my fingers.

While that could be possible, I dont think later year G1 is the main theme per se. Right now the sets not only have later year G1 but also G2, Armada and IDW characters, as well as what used to be Takara exclusives.

I think the boxed sets are deliberately a hodgepodge.

They know from previous boxed sets getting remaindered at Ross that any ONE theme has a niche audience. So they want boxed sets now that have figures representing several categories of collector.

I wouldn't be shocked for a single set to have Armada, G2, and Beast Wars homages together.

I think we can guess that Intelligence and Firepower are the remaining two sets. We can also guess that the figures will have some thematic overlaps with the first two.

Bat Convoy (probably the red deco) and Megalligator are two possibilities. Carnivac. G2 Megs (who I see as a lock for Firepower set). Probably one or more IDW characters. Wouldn't rule out a Spike or Daniel Titan Master. I'd guess no two from a set will be from the same point in Transformers history aside from all being post-86 movie.

I know Hascon is in Sept. but in the past with Botcon, (in which the dates would vary from late spring to late summer), Hasbro usually had a presence at both Botcon and SDCC. I know there's been some speculation that Hasbro will not be at SDCC/will not have an exclusive figure...but has that been confirmed?...I cant believe between now and September there will be no public reveals, that would basically leave the rest of TR to be revealed through leaks.

o.supreme wrote:I know Hascon is in Sept. but in the past with Botcon, (in which the dates would vary from late spring to late summer), Hasbro usually had a presence at both Botcon and SDCC. I know there's been some speculation that Hasbro will not be at SDCC/will not have an exclusive figure...but has that been confirmed?...I cant believe between now and September there will be no public reveals, that would basically leave the rest of TR to be revealed through leaks.

They might offer the same exclusive at both shows. Or they may go through Entertainment Earth/Toys'R'Us, etc. as they did with some Joe Exclusives in the past. It's pretty much unthinkable to me they wouldn't have an SDCC display booth. They may or may not offer their exclusives at their booth but even then Hasbro exclusives get offered with partners elsewhere at SDCC.

o.supreme wrote:I know Hascon is in Sept. but in the past with Botcon, (in which the dates would vary from late spring to late summer), Hasbro usually had a presence at both Botcon and SDCC. I know there's been some speculation that Hasbro will not be at SDCC/will not have an exclusive figure...but has that been confirmed?...I cant believe between now and September there will be no public reveals, that would basically leave the rest of TR to be revealed through leaks.

We now know that there are other shows they attend where they can reveal stuff. Like Cybertron Con and the recent Australia Toyfair which revealed the one wave 5 toy that was missing at the Toy Fair (misfire). So people thought there would be no public reveals between toy fair and hascon but there were. There might be others All I mean to say is that hasbro has many ways of revealing figs and if its not at sdcc (no confirmation yet) or botcon, there will be other ways.

Also, I am glad you found your boxset, I remember you really disliked not seeing the CW ones in stores.