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Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 9th, 2017 @ 7:17pm CDT
Because he's plenty available at BBTS and for 94$US.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... tails/4810
That reissue make sense for the Asian market, but it make absolutely no sense to buy the re-issue from BBTS while the other is available for almost 100$US less!
So, buy the Platinum while you still have the chance. It's an amazing combiner well worth your money.
Posted by Dagon on July 9th, 2017 @ 7:22pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on July 9th, 2017 @ 7:24pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 9th, 2017 @ 7:27pm CDT
Dagon wrote:I understand the need to turn a profit off of molds, particularly old G1 molds, but the Predacons may soon unseat the Combaticons for most used G1 combiner team reuses.
How come? Only two versions exist so far. The all plastic original and the Platinum version with gold and die-cast. I don't count re-issues. The Bruticus mold was repainted with all the colors of the rainbow.
So why not re-release Predaking under a different name with some bright and fruity colors? Or a Beast Wars hommage redeco? Of course, it would be a SDCC exclusive or something.
Posted by Dagon on July 9th, 2017 @ 7:32pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Dagon wrote:I understand the need to turn a profit off of molds, particularly old G1 molds, but the Predacons may soon unseat the Combaticons for most used G1 combiner team reuses.
How come? Only two versions exist so far. The all plastic original and the Platinum version with gold and die-cast. I don't count re-issues. The Bruticus mold was repainted with all the colors of the rainbow.
So why not re-release Predaking under a different name with some bright and fruity colors? Or a Beast Wars hommage redeco? Of course, it would be a SDCC exclusive or something.
Well, I'd say it's for the fairly obvious reason that this set, which is more or less the same as the one that was reissed in a box by Takara in like 2005 or 2006, has been reissued several times. I think one of them came with a larger sword, but otherwise. I know the Combaticons have been reused in different colors, but that doesn't change the fact that the same figures have been rereleased many times. Maybe a different sword, or a slight change in paint or stickers, but the same G1 Predacons three or four times now.
Posted by shajaki on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT
It's Takara, not Hasbro. So not Platinum. But it doesn't fall under the most recent Takara Reissue line (Encore), appear to be a solo release, or start a brand new line. But rather (and strangely specifically) is a... reissue... of the 2010 reissue..?
Weirder still as Kanrabat pointed out, the stock pics show him to be no different from the gold plastic'd Platinum Edition. This might actually be a worthwhile reissue if it were done in the proper yellow/black/red/orange of the original G1 and proper 2010 reissue.
Seriously. What the hell.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:39pm CDT
Posted by Hydrargyrus on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 9th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Been considering picking up a G1 Predaking. Never had one, and it looks nice. But I'm not really that big a fan of G1 molds in general (gre up on the articulation-heavy Beast Era, so I'm spoiled like that ), so I'm still not sure if I'd want to go for it for anything other than the novelty factor.
You should definitely consider getting the PLATINUM version. The gold make it look royal and the diecast make it HEAVY and awesome to play with. It also scale perfectly with Combiner Wars. Furthermore, the transformation, while simple, is very creative and satisfying.
A worthwhile addition in any collection.
Also, have a video review:
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on July 10th, 2017 @ 5:11am CDT
Posted by Sjeng on July 10th, 2017 @ 6:39am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:They still haven't done an brand new one for Combiner Wars or whatever so here's that old G1 toy again. I mean it still looks neat but the chunky proportions, lack of articulation and simplistic robot modes of the team just seem begging for an update as much as many members of the fanbase are.
Absolutely. Along with Abominus and Pirahnacon.
Which is why I got me an MMS Feral Rex. That sadly tapped me out, so no Ordin or Poseidon for me.
Posted by YoungPrime on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:18am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 7:29am CDT
YoungPrime wrote:Does this mean that there won't be an updated CW version anytime soon then?
Nah -- pretty much the entire Platinum line, especially last year shows that re-issues don't really matter.
Posted by Sjeng on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:00am CDT
Kurona wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Does this mean that there won't be an updated CW version anytime soon then?
Nah -- pretty much the entire Platinum line, especially last year shows that re-issues don't really matter.
I think Kurona means a new Combiner Wars version. New molds, modernized bots. Articulation.
But since CW has stopped, I don't think there will be new combiners. Unless they decide to go for a new formula after T.R.
PRedaking, Abominus and Pirahnacon all have quite unique bots though, so no reusing molds and simple recolours, which makes them expensive to produce.
Posted by galvatron00 on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Posted by Kurona on July 10th, 2017 @ 8:44am CDT
Sjeng wrote:Kurona wrote:YoungPrime wrote:Does this mean that there won't be an updated CW version anytime soon then?
Nah -- pretty much the entire Platinum line, especially last year shows that re-issues don't really matter.
I think Kurona means a new Combiner Wars version. New molds, modernized bots. Articulation.
But since CW has stopped, I don't think there will be new combiners. Unless they decide to go for a new formula after T.R.
PRedaking, Abominus and Pirahnacon all have quite unique bots though, so no reusing molds and simple recolours, which makes them expensive to produce.
Oh I was simply meaning that just because something's getting re-issued, doesn't mean that a new version isn't possible. Take for instance the Platinum set of Galvatron and Rodimus last year -- even though we got that, we still got new versions of Galvatron and Rodimus in the Titans Return line. So this re-issue happening doesn't mean we're not getting a Generations Predaking.
And as for mold re-use, I wouldn't worry too much -- there's quite a potential that I can see. Divebomb could easily share molds with Cutthroat; they could re-use engineering from TR Twinferno for Sinnertwin much like Streetwise and Chromedome; not to mention Tantrum and Rampage could be the same mold with some retooling. Heck, that last one is exactly what MMC did with Feral Rex. And then there's the non-G1 Combiners they'd make; Razorclaw could become Lio Convoy, the entire Seacon team could be made into the BWII seacons -- never underestimate what Hasbro'll do to make a quick buck.
Posted by shajaki on July 10th, 2017 @ 9:48am CDT
I think the availability of Crazy Devy parts is starting to weign. There is a set though, of all the CD Predaking upgrades KO'd under the name "Collection Kingdom". Even sold by BBTS. I have it.... and I would seriously only recommend it if you only plan to assemble him... and never touch him again. He looked great, but it was a pretty disappointing set.itscramtastic wrote:I think I should jump on that Platinum Edition and see what Crazy Devy parts I can pick up. I know BBTS has had those on clearance lately too..! Snap. All the monies going all the places.
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Posted by galvatron00 on July 10th, 2017 @ 10:10am CDT
Well then, with your warning, I shall pass on all of it!shajaki wrote:I think the availability of Crazy Devy parts is starting to weign. There is a set though, of all the CD Predaking upgrades KO'd under the name "Collection Kingdom". Even sold by BBTS. I have it.... and I would seriously only recommend it if you only plan to assemble him... and never touch him again. He looked great, but it was a pretty disappointing set.itscramtastic wrote:I think I should jump on that Platinum Edition and see what Crazy Devy parts I can pick up. I know BBTS has had those on clearance lately too..! Snap. All the monies going all the places.
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Posted by alternator77 on July 10th, 2017 @ 6:31pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 10th, 2017 @ 10:14pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Well then, with your warning, I shall pass on all of it!shajaki wrote:I think the availability of Crazy Devy parts is starting to weign. There is a set though, of all the CD Predaking upgrades KO'd under the name "Collection Kingdom". Even sold by BBTS. I have it.... and I would seriously only recommend it if you only plan to assemble him... and never touch him again. He looked great, but it was a pretty disappointing set.itscramtastic wrote:I think I should jump on that Platinum Edition and see what Crazy Devy parts I can pick up. I know BBTS has had those on clearance lately too..! Snap. All the monies going all the places.
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Hold your horses! Sajaki was only referring to the KO upgrade kit. The G1 Predaking is AMAZING and personally, it dosent need any upgrade kits. Buying G1 mean the thing must look the part after all.
Posted by galvatron00 on July 11th, 2017 @ 8:09am CDT
Horses held!-Kanrabat- wrote:Hold your horses! Sajaki was only referring to the KO upgrade kit. The G1 Predaking is AMAZING and personally, it dosent need any upgrade kits. Buying G1 mean the thing must look the part after all.itscramtastic wrote:Well then, with your warning, I shall pass on all of it!shajaki wrote:I think the availability of Crazy Devy parts is starting to weign. There is a set though, of all the CD Predaking upgrades KO'd under the name "Collection Kingdom". Even sold by BBTS. I have it.... and I would seriously only recommend it if you only plan to assemble him... and never touch him again. He looked great, but it was a pretty disappointing set.itscramtastic wrote:I think I should jump on that Platinum Edition and see what Crazy Devy parts I can pick up. I know BBTS has had those on clearance lately too..! Snap. All the monies going all the places.
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Yeah, the Platinum Edition is still on my radar. And G1 is G1. All the chunky makes it the cool.
Posted by shajaki on July 11th, 2017 @ 1:32pm CDT
My bad, I certainly wasn't implying Predaking himself was bad! He is fantastic.itscramtastic wrote:Horses held!-Kanrabat- wrote:Hold your horses! Sajaki was only referring to the KO upgrade kit. The G1 Predaking is AMAZING and personally, it dosent need any upgrade kits. Buying G1 mean the thing must look the part after all.itscramtastic wrote:Well then, with your warning, I shall pass on all of it!shajaki wrote:I think the availability of Crazy Devy parts is starting to weign. There is a set though, of all the CD Predaking upgrades KO'd under the name "Collection Kingdom". Even sold by BBTS. I have it.... and I would seriously only recommend it if you only plan to assemble him... and never touch him again. He looked great, but it was a pretty disappointing set.itscramtastic wrote:I think I should jump on that Platinum Edition and see what Crazy Devy parts I can pick up. I know BBTS has had those on clearance lately too..! Snap. All the monies going all the places.
Can't go wrong with G1 though
Yeah, the Platinum Edition is still on my radar. And G1 is G1. All the chunky makes it the cool.
And actually while I'm clearing things up, I'm not even saying the Crazy Devy upgrades are garbage either. They COULD be wonderful, I don't know. All I know is that the legit ones were hard to come by (back when I was looking anyways), and that the KO set "Collection Kingdom" was garbage.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:23pm CDT
Dagon wrote:I understand the need to turn a profit off of molds, particularly old G1 molds, but the Predacons may soon unseat the Combaticons for most used G1 combiner team reuses.
Ruination alone had what, 4 uses of the mold?
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:31pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Is that Predaking the exact same as the Platinum one?
Because he's plenty available at BBTS and for 94$US.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... tails/4810
That reissue make sense for the Asian market, but it make absolutely no sense to buy the re-issue from BBTS while the other is available for almost 100$US less!
So, buy the Platinum while you still have the chance. It's an amazing combiner well worth your money.
Substandard packaging on what they still have. Might be worth that $100 different in price to some. Not me, but I already have 3 original g1 Predacons, 94 bucks is to rich for me in order to get the set for the tiger and the bull/buffalo (whatever the non rhino foot is) anyway.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 12th, 2017 @ 4:21am CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Is that Predaking the exact same as the Platinum one?
Because he's plenty available at BBTS and for 94$US.
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/V ... tails/4810
That reissue make sense for the Asian market, but it make absolutely no sense to buy the re-issue from BBTS while the other is available for almost 100$US less!
So, buy the Platinum while you still have the chance. It's an amazing combiner well worth your money.
Substandard packaging on what they still have. Might be worth that $100 different in price to some. Not me, but I already have 3 original g1 Predacons, 94 bucks is to rich for me in order to get the set for the tiger and the bull/buffalo (whatever the non rhino foot is) anyway.
The Platinum is NOT meant to be compatible with the G1 original anyway. Because the G1 original have NO diecast. So gving him two limbs that is full of diecast on an all-plastic combiner will result into something... messy...
I you don't care about having the whole G1 original combiner and your G1 predacons are 100% complete, you could sell them, buy the Platinum, and STILL have some money left. Just a thought.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 1st, 2017 @ 7:33am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 1st, 2017 @ 4:32pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:the hip screw gets loose on rampage every time I put the fist of the combiner then taking it out. the fist isn't tight on the wrist like his counterpart divebomb in arm transformation. even when I tighten it with the screw driver it keeps happening. is this a common issue? if so, how can I fix it? thank you.
Is it for the vintage original, the first reissue, or the Platinum?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 1st, 2017 @ 5:55pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The Platinum is NOT meant to be compatible with the G1 original anyway. Because the G1 original have NO diecast. So gving him two limbs that is full of diecast on an all-plastic combiner will result into something... messy...
Hate to correct but the first G1 releases did have die cast, like all of the 1986 Movie offerings at the time. Later releases, as you may have guess, were all plastic, that includes the Japanese originals. In other words, the 2010 reissue was the first time Japan got the die cast versions.
But I would indeed be weary about attaching die cast versions to all plastic ones.
From the sound of Rampage's problem, you should remove the screw and check the threading inside as it may have been stripped.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 1st, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:the hip screw gets loose on rampage every time I put the fist of the combiner then taking it out. the fist isn't tight on the wrist like his counterpart divebomb in arm transformation. even when I tighten it with the screw driver it keeps happening. is this a common issue? if so, how can I fix it? thank you.
Is it for the vintage original, the first reissue, or the Platinum?
first reissue
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 1st, 2017 @ 8:57pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:the hip screw gets loose on rampage every time I put the fist of the combiner then taking it out. the fist isn't tight on the wrist like his counterpart divebomb in arm transformation. even when I tighten it with the screw driver it keeps happening. is this a common issue? if so, how can I fix it? thank you.
Is it for the vintage original, the first reissue, or the Platinum?
first reissue
So it's the all plastic one. As Jelze said above, you may have to disassemble the faulty part. Maybe something broke or came loose inside.
Posted by Emerje on August 1st, 2017 @ 9:22pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 2nd, 2017 @ 9:13am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:the hip screw gets loose on rampage every time I put the fist of the combiner then taking it out. the fist isn't tight on the wrist like his counterpart divebomb in arm transformation. even when I tighten it with the screw driver it keeps happening. is this a common issue? if so, how can I fix it? thank you.
Is it for the vintage original, the first reissue, or the Platinum?
first reissue
So it's the all plastic one. As Jelze said above, you may have to disassemble the faulty part. Maybe something broke or came loose inside.
2004 takara reissue. the metal one. the inner thigh is metal.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 3rd, 2017 @ 6:13pm CDT
That Predaking go so well in this glorious G1 display!
Seriously, the Reissue is pointless when the Platinum is half the price. Unless you are adamant about having yellow instead of gold details.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2017 @ 6:45pm CDT
But the Welcome to TF 2010 one was gold too.-Kanrabat- wrote:Seriously, the Reissue is pointless when the Platinum is half the price. Unless you are adamant about having yellow instead of gold details.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 3rd, 2017 @ 7:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But the Welcome to TF 2010 one was gold too.-Kanrabat- wrote:Seriously, the Reissue is pointless when the Platinum is half the price. Unless you are adamant about having yellow instead of gold details.
Seriously? It may be just a placeholder stock photo.
Let's wait for the actual in-hand images.
And if it's the EXACT SAME THING as the Platinum........
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2017 @ 7:28pm CDT
Yeah, the Platinum was basically the 2010 reissue with several of its stickers pre-applied, five sheets of more stickers, and a gold redeco of Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime's sword.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:But the Welcome to TF 2010 one was gold too.-Kanrabat- wrote:Seriously, the Reissue is pointless when the Platinum is half the price. Unless you are adamant about having yellow instead of gold details.
Seriously? It may be just a placeholder stock photo.
Let's wait for the actual in-hand images.
And if it's the EXACT SAME THING as the Platinum........
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 3rd, 2017 @ 8:39pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, the Platinum was basically the 2010 reissue with several of its stickers pre-applied, five sheets of more stickers, and a gold redeco of Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime's sword.
Are you sure about the pre-applied stickers? Because I remember clearly that there was none. the figures were clean as a newborn's bottom and there was LOTS of stickers to apply and it took a long time.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 3rd, 2017 @ 9:35pm CDT
Read that on the Wiki, but it could be a mistake.-Kanrabat- wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, the Platinum was basically the 2010 reissue with several of its stickers pre-applied, five sheets of more stickers, and a gold redeco of Prime Beast Hunters Optimus Prime's sword.
Are you sure about the pre-applied stickers? Because I remember clearly that there was none. the figures were clean as a newborn's bottom and there was LOTS of stickers to apply and it took a long time.
If anyone can confirm if it's in error, I can change it.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 22nd, 2017 @ 6:55am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 22nd, 2017 @ 5:30pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:so how can I tighten rampage and dive bomb's hips? cause every time I put the predaking fists in between their legs the hip screws loosen up again even when I tighten them up. thank you.
All I can suggest is if you don't mind the screw being PERMANENT, you can always use some glue.
If the screw is metal on metal, then you're in business. Some Loctite Thread Locker will do the job marvellously. Just use enough to cover the threads. In absence of air the glue will cure and seal the screw in permanently. If the glue is left in air, it will remain liquid. THAT GLUE WILL NOT WORK OR DAMAGE PLASTICS HOWEVER.
If the screw is screwed in plastic, then you may use normal Crazy-Glue. Be very, very careful so that the glue don't run in any joints or you will RUIN your figure.
As a Doc Frankenstein type of customiser, that's the only solutions I can come up with.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 9:29am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:so how can I tighten rampage and dive bomb's hips? cause every time I put the predaking fists in between their legs the hip screws loosen up again even when I tighten them up. thank you.
All I can suggest is if you don't mind the screw being PERMANENT, you can always use some glue.
If the screw is metal on metal, then you're in business. Some Loctite Thread Locker will do the job marvellously. Just use enough to cover the threads. In absence of air the glue will cure and seal the screw in permanently. If the glue is left in air, it will remain liquid. THAT GLUE WILL NOT WORK OR DAMAGE PLASTICS HOWEVER.
If the screw is screwed in plastic, then you may use normal Crazy-Glue. Be very, very careful so that the glue don't run in any joints or you will RUIN your figure.
As a Doc Frankenstein type of customiser, that's the only solutions I can come up with.
Thanks!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 23rd, 2017 @ 4:36pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:Thanks!
No prob, bro, and keep us posted on the results.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on August 23rd, 2017 @ 6:55pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:Thanks!
No prob, bro, and keep us posted on the results.
ok
Posted by SpacerAM2 on September 12th, 2017 @ 4:10pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2017 @ 5:14pm CDT
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Posted by SpacerAM2 on September 12th, 2017 @ 5:46pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:So the screws did screwed into metal. That's the only way it could have worked.
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Actually it is the takara predaking reissue from 2004. got it around Christmas time. it is almost 13 years old. Thanks again!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2017 @ 5:56pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the screws did screwed into metal. That's the only way it could have worked.
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Actually it is the takara predaking reissue from 2004. got it around Christmas time. it is almost 13 years old.
I meant the ACTUAL UPCOMING reissue. You know, what that thread was originally about?
Posted by SpacerAM2 on September 12th, 2017 @ 8:44pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the screws did screwed into metal. That's the only way it could have worked.
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Actually it is the takara predaking reissue from 2004. got it around Christmas time. it is almost 13 years old.
I meant the ACTUAL UPCOMING reissue. You know, what that thread was originally about?
the titan version that is coming up next year. the real big one that is about the size of titans cw devastator?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 12th, 2017 @ 9:26pm CDT
SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the screws did screwed into metal. That's the only way it could have worked.
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Actually it is the takara predaking reissue from 2004. got it around Christmas time. it is almost 13 years old.
I meant the ACTUAL UPCOMING reissue. You know, what that thread was originally about?
the titan version that is coming up next year. the real big one that is about the size of titans cw devastator?
Go back to the very first post of this thread.
Posted by SpacerAM2 on September 13th, 2017 @ 7:35am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:SpacerAM2 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:So the screws did screwed into metal. That's the only way it could have worked.
Glad it all worked out.
Now to wait and see what this reissue will be like....
Actually it is the takara predaking reissue from 2004. got it around Christmas time. it is almost 13 years old.
I meant the ACTUAL UPCOMING reissue. You know, what that thread was originally about?
the titan version that is coming up next year. the real big one that is about the size of titans cw devastator?
Go back to the very first post of this thread.
ah ok!