Transformers Mosaic: "The Shape of Things to Come."

So.......Arcee is a transvestite? I will never look at Arcee the same way again.

Lord Onixprime wrote:So.......Arcee is a transvestite? I will never look at Arcee the same way again.

Hahahahah.

I mean: according to the excellent and sophisticated Spotlight: Arcee, Cybertronian do not have a gender and their bodies cannot understand gender differences.
Jhiaxus experimented on helpless guinea pigs (with actions that sounds a lot like metaphor of physical abuse) in order to see what would happen if they were programmed as if they had a gender.
This conflict of impulses that could not find a vent in her body turned Arcee into a psycho killer.

What the... Transgender Transformers now? Yuck! This makes me sick! I see the connection to Spotlight: Arcee though!

I really liked this. Interesting concept for "Arc"

Interesting origin story, even if we are not so sure on whether we believe it or not.

Lord Onixprime wrote:So.......Arcee is a transvestite? I will never look at Arcee the same way again.

post op.....

I was just rereading Spotlight Arcee the other night. They REALLY need to do some sort of follow-up series to clean up that mess. The story tries to be cryptic and just ends up being kind of incoherent.

And also inconsistent with the other comics; Arcee claims that, aside from her, gender doesn't exist on Cybertron, yet four female transformers appear in Megatron's Origin comic (albeit, one isn't visually identifiable as female).

Caelus wrote:I was just rereading Spotlight Arcee the other night. They REALLY need to do some sort of follow-up series to clean up that mess. The story tries to be cryptic and just ends up being kind of incoherent.

And also inconsistent with the other comics; Arcee claims that, aside from her, gender doesn't exist on Cybertron, yet four female transformers appear in Megatron's Origin comic (albeit, one isn't visually identifiable as female).

I am pretty sure they were asked about this, and the answer was, the artists are allowed the freedom to choose characters to put into their backgrounds, as long as they are not on 'the list' that will be used elsewhere.

So basically, it's another TF continuity mistake because Mr. Milne was not in the know about the plans for Arcee (or dialogue for said issue), even though he also did the art for that comic as well?

I can't help being disappointed that this wasn't a Battlestar Galactica mosaic

Caelus wrote:I was just rereading Spotlight Arcee the other night. They REALLY need to do some sort of follow-up series to clean up that mess. The story tries to be cryptic and just ends up being kind of incoherent.

And also inconsistent with the other comics; Arcee claims that, aside from her, gender doesn't exist on Cybertron, yet four female transformers appear in Megatron's Origin comic (albeit, one isn't visually identifiable as female).

I didn't see anything inconsistant at all, orther than her not knowing about the other genders, and if the mixture is off, then I see no reaosn why she couldn't have sximply missed them. I don't see why it isn't possible that Haux didn't refine his experimenting or create smethign that could spread, aince we don't know how long they could come and go from the Dead Universe.

I agree it's odd, but it was a unique choice for her being the outcast. For me though, I see the TF gender as something that was just a label picked up from the observations of othewr species in the universe. The stronger bots became "male" since most species that we "see" (all played on TV by humans, but...) mtend for the male to be the bulkier half, and the sprightlier bots became female.

MrMunkeepants wrote:I can't help being disappointed that this wasn't a Battlestar Galactica mosaic

At least you got the right reference for the title.
And one day I will wtite a BSG/Tf crossover. I already have the idea

Errr...uhhhhh.....weird.
Probably the only Mosaic I didn't really like, mostly because I hate one character turning into someone totally different with no memory of the previous at all.
And why is Arcee evil? Did I miss something?

zenosaurus_x wrote:Errr...uhhhhh.....weird.
Probably the only Mosaic I didn't really like, mostly because I hate one character turning into someone totally different with no memory of the previous at all.

Actually, Arcee remembers being Arc, and that's what drives her crazy, literally... she wants to goback toher normal self, but she cannot. Jhiaxus' reprogramming overwhelms her with inputs and feelings that her body cannot understand.

And why is Arcee evil? Did I miss something?

"Spotlight: Arcee" provides the details: she's more driven than evil (and she's attacking a 'Con, anyway!).

Pretty interesting idea. I'd like to read Spotlight: Arcee again now..

M3Gr1ml0ck wrote:

zenosaurus_x wrote:Errr...uhhhhh.....weird.
Probably the only Mosaic I didn't really like, mostly because I hate one character turning into someone totally different with no memory of the previous at all.

Actually, Arcee remembers being Arc, and that's what drives her crazy, literally... she wants to goback toher normal self, but she cannot. Jhiaxus' reprogramming overwhelms her with inputs and feelings that her body cannot understand.

And why is Arcee evil? Did I miss something?

"Spotlight: Arcee" provides the details: she's more driven than evil (and she's attacking a 'Con, anyway!).

Oh sorry, I don't know much about the spotlights and whatnot, relatively new to anything not movie.

zenosaurus_x wrote:Oh sorry, I don't know much about the spotlights and whatnot, relatively new to anything not movie.

Welcome on the comics side and thanks for reading, then!

By the way, there is an official comic explaining how Movie Arcee from TFTM07 (toy line) became the group of three bots seen in RotF.
She was forced to undergo a disturbing Decepticon experiment, like the Twins.

I heard about that, something about this guy named FlatLine(who should have a toy, he looked cool) and whatnot.
Didn't really know about the Twins' experiment, I need to research it more often.

Actually, if you read through it a few times, it makes sense, and you never see what shinanagans went on before she/he was arcee, before this.
As for origins of Megatron having females in back ground, who's to say the process wasn't refined and completed Arcee went crazy cause she was the test dummy. Oh and for all the people moaning about a fictional transformer character changing genders, albeit by force. they should look to nature, in our own planet. There are many animals like fish ( sheephead, and certain frogs) that if a certain sex is low in a population will actually change sex to keep species going!

I must point out, that you use the word "transvestite" incorrectly. A Transvestite is a cross dresser. The word you want is Transexual/

Liked it .. but 'S'Imon'...?

bit self indulgent, no Mr Writer? Nomis-5 or somefing would've been subtler

sorry, 'self indulgent' was a bit strong. Can't find the word I'm looking for, but you know what I mean

kriksix wrote:sorry, 'self indulgent' was a bit strong. Can't find the word I'm looking for, but you know what I mean

Perhaps more of a reference/tip of the hat to "Simon" Furman?

Yes, that was meant to be a tip of the hat to Furman.

But I should add that the planet and moon names were created by me. You know, Simon (Reeves) did the original "Spotlight Flywheels" story and left the celestial bodies unnamed. I developed the script for the Mosaic, using all his concepts and adding something of mine.

If you want to find a reference to Simon Reeves, go for the "Veeres" planet

aaah a nod to The Simon writer

and oh yeah Veeres.. that;'s the kinda fing

This is what happens when people think to much

There's really no need for an origin story for Arcee. the cartoon did the right thing by ignoring the elephant in the room.