Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Omega Supreme Promotional Video From TakaraTomy

Geez HasTak, I'm already sold on Omega Supreme! You don't have to make me want the Titans Return leader molds to attach to him too! In all seriousness, I'm super excited for Omega to come out, though I do still wish the eyes were the original blue we had seen and not the orange that appears to be the final product. Oh well, nothin a bit of paint won't fix

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I still say you bag on Skyfire too much. Definitely agree about Megatron AKA "They forgot to include tabs for my neckplate" as the weakest link, though. I wouldn't say he's bad per say, but compared to the others he's only so-so.

No, Megatron isn't horrible, but he definitely missed the mark, especially when considering how good Optimus is (robot mode anyway, truck mode is just okay). As for Jetfire, maybe it seems I bag on him too much, but it was just a letdown for me how simple and seemingly unfinished he is. I mean, he has the same problem that leader RoTF Jetfire does: he's basically a robot laying down with a plane draped over him.

Okay, what even?
No. Just, no. Not even close. That is not a valid criticism of SIEGE Jetfire, because that is not even an accurate description of SIEGE Jetfire. SIEGE Jetfire's arms actually tuck away and integrate into the jet mode. SIEGE Jetfire's actual nosecone actually folds down to become the robot chest. SIEGE Jetfire's head is completely hidden away within the upper cabin. SIEGE Jetfire's legs actually collapse and transform into the engines.
How the crap does that qualify as "a robot laying down with a plane draped over him."? Seriously, how? Any way I look at it, that is such a maddeningly nonsensically mismatched description.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for the Generations Leader figure, but it's superior to this one in both looks and transformation. Might have to pick one up.

You, um, you sure about that? Because if you think SIEGE Jetfire has too much robot showing from below, well...

This is what T30 Jetfire looks like from below in jet mode. Robot head in plain sight, fake cockpit chest because of having the Valkyrie jet mode, legs awkwardly tucked under Silverbolt style an, arms plainly visible and the shoulders barely passing themselves off as engines. Are you sure you weren't scammed and sold one of these? Because I can definitely see that getting called "a robot laying down with a jet draped over him"

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2) Caliburst

You mean G2 Blowpipe?

Stargrave wrote:I think he’s too big and expensive. Just a bit. I think it’s pushed him into that same box that some people fit in with Shockwave not feeling quite worth it. Know what I mean? I think it would have been just as good and fun to see Jetfire in a Leader class with a base Voyager upgraded with the Veritech armor. Just thinkin’

1. Well, we basically already had that - it was called Classics Jetfire.
2. The price is because of the size (and the accessories), and the size itself is one of the main points. That and having a fully cartoon-accurate altmode with a solid upper cabin instead of the Valkyrie's separate boosters.

For sure but even with as big as he was in the cartoon I think the scale is just a little too inflated. He’s almost as big as Omega but Omega’s got a good justification for being so big. I think just personally he sticks out a bit with how they’ve been doing scale so far. Like I love a big Jetfire we all love a big Jetfire but this is like StarDestroyerfire.

I'm glad I was validated that there *was* storage in the shins, almost wish there was an elevator in one of the legs to provide transport to the raised roadway.

Stargrave wrote:For sure but even with as big as he was in the cartoon I think the scale is just a little too inflated. He’s almost as big as Omega but Omega’s got a good justification for being so big. I think just personally he sticks out a bit with how they’ve been doing scale so far. Like I love a big Jetfire we all love a big Jetfire but this is like StarDestroyerfire.

I distinctly recall in Fire in the Sky, the autoboots *rode* inside Jetfire's lower body.... so... yes, he's supposed to be that big, maybe even bigger? he often had to crouch to interact with other autobots. If I had one complaint about Siege Jetfire, it's that he doesn't really *crouch* i'd have loved a forward ankle tilt or *deep* knee bend to properly crouch down.

As far as top three... oh man that's rough...

1) Voyager Optimus Prime (as funky as the truck is... he's truly a marvel of posability and just *looks* right. If you have issues with his "backpack" or "arm kibble" it all slides off on mushroom pegs.

2) Ultra Magnus (and to be honest, he might even beat out Optimus). This was the Ultra Magnus I always wanted, including the inner white prime. I still think the core robot works better for Ultra Magnus than as Prime-minor on the "galaxy upgrade". I'm still miffed that IDW went with *that* version for the comics.

3) Reflector. He's just a solid fun, poseable bot. His "solo" alt mode feels like it misses the mark, but the camera is perfect. His robot mode is perfect.

Honorable Mentions: Hound and Seekers.

Worst three:

1) the carbot micro masters (I hate that their arms seem so fiddly- and it doesn't seem fair to be mad at something so tiny).

2) Prowl. He just doesn't quite feel right, between the shoulders, doors, and lack of paint. Swipe and Streak look amazing... so maybe when they roll out.

3) Soundwave/Megatron. It's a tie, because they've had better figures. Their POTP/Combiner Wars incarnations I just liked better. Meg's borrowed voyager form from Blitzwing just really worked well for him, and was a solid tank, and I even really liked the jet mode (call back to Machine Wars anyone?). The leader soundwave from Primes Trilogy may have been too big... but he really pushed all the right buttons.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I still say you bag on Skyfire too much. Definitely agree about Megatron AKA "They forgot to include tabs for my neckplate" as the weakest link, though. I wouldn't say he's bad per say, but compared to the others he's only so-so.

No, Megatron isn't horrible, but he definitely missed the mark, especially when considering how good Optimus is (robot mode anyway, truck mode is just okay). As for Jetfire, maybe it seems I bag on him too much, but it was just a letdown for me how simple and seemingly unfinished he is. I mean, he has the same problem that leader RoTF Jetfire does: he's basically a robot laying down with a plane draped over him.

Okay, what even?
No. Just, no. Not even close. That is not a valid criticism of SIEGE Jetfire, because that is not even an accurate description of SIEGE Jetfire. SIEGE Jetfire's arms actually tuck away and integrate into the jet mode. SIEGE Jetfire's actual nosecone actually folds down to become the robot chest. SIEGE Jetfire's head is completely hidden away within the upper cabin. SIEGE Jetfire's legs actually collapse and transform into the engines.
How the crap does that qualify as "a robot laying down with a plane draped over him."? Seriously, how? Any way I look at it, that is such a maddeningly nonsensically mismatched description.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for the Generations Leader figure, but it's superior to this one in both looks and transformation. Might have to pick one up.

You, um, you sure about that? Because if you think SIEGE Jetfire has too much robot showing from below, well...

This is what T30 Jetfire looks like from below in jet mode. Robot head in plain sight, fake cockpit chest because of having the Valkyrie jet mode, legs awkwardly tucked under Silverbolt style an, arms plainly visible and the shoulders barely passing themselves off as engines. Are you sure you weren't scammed and sold one of these? Because I can definitely see that getting called "a robot laying down with a jet draped over him"

I'm sure.

I'll concede that comparing Siege Jetfire to RoTF Jetfire was a bit harsh. He's not as bad. But close. Looking at the underside, I see arms, shoulders, legs, knees. Look at all those gaps. Just as bad from the side view. On an $80 Commander Class figure it is unacceptable to have these errors in engineering. There should have been panels to cover them up, or at least have the transformation fill them in. Because of the difference in size, the gaps are more prominent in Siege Jetfire than Generations Jetfire. That figure is by no means close to perfect, which is why I haven't bought it yet, but it looks better than this. I bought the Siege figure even after watching reviews, because the robot mode looked good on screen. In hand? Not as good. Not bad, but not as good. Too bland. And yes, I know there are places such as Reprolabels that can help with that. But again, for $80, it shouldn't need it. Because then it becomes a $100 figure, or more. Bottom line for me (and again, this is just my opinion, I'm not stating facts so don't have an aneurysm) this is a disappointment for the money spent and the size and space it occupies. I mean, this is halfway to a Titan-sized figure, and it looks like someone enlarged a deluxe figure.

Jetfire was a really big guy, I know scale wasn't exactly consistent with the Cartoon but at the very least Jetfire was always much bigger then everyone else.


He could fit many Autobots in his vehicle mode, so there was mass shifting to some extent but he towered over everyone who wasn't a Combiner or Omega Supreme/Skylinx

Since Siege is a G1 Cartoon inspired line it only makes sense, plus we have already have had Leader Jetfires and Jetfires of many different sizes in the past.


I also really appreciate that Jetfire can serve as a dropship for other figures, a genius idea I'd like to see more of.

For some reason I couldn't attach these to the previous post.

Are Apeface, Spinster, Crosshairs and Astrotrain going to be released at retail or are they online exclusives?

FellintoOblivion wrote:Are Apeface, Spinster, Crosshairs and Astrotrain going to be released at retail or are they online exclusives?

They should be available at retail

Thanks for the lists guys! Think I'll give it another day or so then tally up the totals. Will also ask at years end to see if anyone's feelings changed or if Wave 5 beat the rest into submission

ZeroWolf wrote:

FellintoOblivion wrote:Are Apeface, Spinster, Crosshairs and Astrotrain going to be released at retail or are they online exclusives?

They should be available at retail

Thanks for the lists guys! Think I'll give it another day or so then tally up the totals. Will also ask at years end to see if anyone's feelings changed or if Wave 5 beat the rest into submission

Apeface and Spinister are kind of blowing my mind

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I still say you bag on Skyfire too much. Definitely agree about Megatron AKA "They forgot to include tabs for my neckplate" as the weakest link, though. I wouldn't say he's bad per say, but compared to the others he's only so-so.

No, Megatron isn't horrible, but he definitely missed the mark, especially when considering how good Optimus is (robot mode anyway, truck mode is just okay). As for Jetfire, maybe it seems I bag on him too much, but it was just a letdown for me how simple and seemingly unfinished he is. I mean, he has the same problem that leader RoTF Jetfire does: he's basically a robot laying down with a plane draped over him.

Okay, what even?
No. Just, no. Not even close. That is not a valid criticism of SIEGE Jetfire, because that is not even an accurate description of SIEGE Jetfire. SIEGE Jetfire's arms actually tuck away and integrate into the jet mode. SIEGE Jetfire's actual nosecone actually folds down to become the robot chest. SIEGE Jetfire's head is completely hidden away within the upper cabin. SIEGE Jetfire's legs actually collapse and transform into the engines.
How the crap does that qualify as "a robot laying down with a plane draped over him."? Seriously, how? Any way I look at it, that is such a maddeningly nonsensically mismatched description.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I never cared for the Generations Leader figure, but it's superior to this one in both looks and transformation. Might have to pick one up.

You, um, you sure about that? Because if you think SIEGE Jetfire has too much robot showing from below, well...

This is what T30 Jetfire looks like from below in jet mode. Robot head in plain sight, fake cockpit chest because of having the Valkyrie jet mode, legs awkwardly tucked under Silverbolt style an, arms plainly visible and the shoulders barely passing themselves off as engines. Are you sure you weren't scammed and sold one of these? Because I can definitely see that getting called "a robot laying down with a jet draped over him"

I'm sure.

I'll concede that comparing Siege Jetfire to RoTF Jetfire was a bit harsh. He's not as bad. But close. Looking at the underside, I see arms, shoulders, legs, knees. Look at all those gaps. Just as bad from the side view. On an $80 Commander Class figure it is unacceptable to have these errors in engineering. There should have been panels to cover them up, or at least have the transformation fill them in. Because of the difference in size, the gaps are more prominent in Siege Jetfire than Generations Jetfire. That figure is by no means close to perfect, which is why I haven't bought it yet, but it looks better than this. I bought the Siege figure even after watching reviews, because the robot mode looked good on screen. In hand? Not as good. Not bad, but not as good. Too bland. And yes, I know there are places such as Reprolabels that can help with that. But again, for $80, it shouldn't need it. Because then it becomes a $100 figure, or more. Bottom line for me (and again, this is just my opinion, I'm not stating facts so don't have an aneurysm) this is a disappointment for the money spent and the size and space it occupies. I mean, this is halfway to a Titan-sized figure, and it looks like someone enlarged a deluxe figure.

I can agree with you the transformation is pretty straight forward, but I'd argue none of the Titan's were mindblowing in their transformations either, possibly with the exception of Devastator (and that's mostly *combiner*).

I get what you're saying about the gaps looking directly under it, but I don't really see it from the sides. I do agree with you on him being *too big* and it's not in the sense that he's *out of scale* so much as in *where do I put him?!*

I think a lot of the bland-ness is because he's cast in white plastic. It's the same issue I have with the Rainmakers... A little wash/dry brush over them would really make the details pop... sadly... i have ZERO experience in that technique.

I know not everyone has the same incomes and definately a lot more people have more expenses than *I* do (kids and what not- i don't have any) but the arguements over Shockwave being *leader prices* I just don't get that squabling. Jetfire I kind understand a bit more at $80. But I wouldn't write the commander class off yet. Curious to see what the next offering is. But I don't think it will be *mind blowingly complex* just because it's big. I think Hasbro has honed in on the "simple but satisfying" tranformation. Heck, Sideswipe is a simplified version of his MP design.

Deadput wrote:Jetfire was a really big guy, I know scale wasn't exactly consistent with the Cartoon but at the very least Jetfire was always much bigger then everyone else.


He could fit many Autobots in his vehicle mode, so there was mass shifting to some extent but he towered over everyone who wasn't a Combiner or Omega Supreme/Skylinx

Since Siege is a G1 Cartoon inspired line it only makes sense, plus we have already have had Leader Jetfires and Jetfires of many different sizes in the past.


I also really appreciate that Jetfire can serve as a dropship for other figures, a genius idea I'd like to see more of.

I do almost wish he had a full cargo bay (in his legs?) for the micromasters like the old micromaster combiner shuttle. http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-micromasters-battlefield-headquarters-with-full-barrel-and-overflow/3500/

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I do agree with you on him being *too big* and it's not in the sense that he's *out of scale* so much as in *where do I put him?!*

How much does he weigh?

I think a lot of the bland-ness is because he's cast in white plastic. It's the same issue I have with the Rainmakers... A little wash/dry brush over them would really make the details pop... sadly... i have ZERO experience in that technique.

It's not difficult, but it's easy to over do it.

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Well that is not a good look. What surprises me the most is the alt mode thigh gap. The bottom view doesn't bother me as I expect a mess with jetformers, but the side just seems a little sloppy. Making it easier to skip this guy.

Hey wait, but is there a Gerwalk mode? Pictures anyone?

Stargrave wrote:Hey wait, but is there a Gerwalk mode? Pictures anyone?

Now you have me curious T30 can pull it off, sorta...

carytheone wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Hey wait, but is there a Gerwalk mode? Pictures anyone?

Now you have me curious T30 can pull it off, sorta...

Googled!


I mean really, if there is a robot with a plain on it's back, it can most likely pull off a Gerwalk, amairight?

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Hey wait, but is there a Gerwalk mode? Pictures anyone?

Now you have me curious T30 can pull it off, sorta...

Googled!


I mean really, if there is a robot with a plain on it's back, it can most likely pull off a Gerwalk, amairight?

Looks like he's using crutches

I think he is... They say it happens in the autumn years...

Movieverse Jetfire used a cane...so why not?

Awww no that's a sad Gerwalk oh lord I'm dyin' right now. Gerhobble more like it.

Lancer has shipped from Pulse and will be here tomorrow!

Stargrave wrote:Located over on tfnd on Facebook we've discovered a new Japanese review of Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Omega Supreme by TakaraTomy designers!

I've found my people . They did the exact first 2 things I plan to do with my Omega Supreme, whenever I do get it

1. Compare/Contrast with UW Devastator
2. Connect to other TR Titans and Leader base modes




3. The *Splits*...nah, not doing that, but its good to know he can, for such a Big Guy

Hey D-Max Soundwave’s extra gun forms a perfect handle for Smashdown.
Full on John Henry mode:

Well considering my Siege collection so far consists of 1 Battlemaster, 1 Leader, and 7 Deluxes...

Top 3:
1. Galaxy Optimus (Grew up on the Unicron Trilogy, always wanted the original Cybertron Optimus but never got him, so the combination of nostalgia/wish-fulfillment, articulation, and bonus inner G1 Prime make this a win for me)
2. Ironhide (Nice meaty Deluxe, awesome weapon, the finally factor of getting a good Ironhide)
3. Sixgun (My favorite of the Weaponizers due to the versatility of his parts, his unique alt mode, and overall awesome look)

Honorable Mentions: Brunt, Smashdown

Bottom 3 (and none of these are even bad figures):
1. Hound (Least interesting of the figures I own, annoying to get the legs past the back kibble mid-transformation)
2. Skytread/Flywheels (minor mold issues with tank mode, waist swivel limited by jet kibble)
3. Cog I guess? (Least poseable Weaponizer, handheld guns only fit properly in his hands, alt mode splits slightly too easily)

I can almost guarantee this list will be more varied once Siege is over, I'll have a whole other size class involved even once I get the Rainmakers, Apeface, and Soundblaster.

I think his head’s supposed to dip down on purpose if only just for this pose:
“Such heroic nonsense.”

Stargrave wrote:I think his head’s supposed to dip down on purpose if only just for this pose:
“Such heroic nonsense.”
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Doesn't the head also push all the way in for alt-mode? My neck flap is very tight and I use the up and down motion in the same way for posing. Was there copies released that were too loose to hold their own weight?

Stargrave wrote:I think his head’s supposed to dip down on purpose if only just for this pose:
“Such heroic nonsense.”

Love it!

Here's my own (well, not really my own, it's from reddit but I wanted to show you)

Only thing missing is a hammer and he is God Magnus

That is a thing of beauty...

Hi guys, thanks to your feedback I just ordered a lot of transformers
Who cares about the money, transformers is my biggest passion
I'll post a photo when I receive them. Anyway, here's my actual collection, all of it comes from my childhood times.
Love you guys, happy to be a part of this community!

Stargrave wrote:Hey D-Max Soundwave’s extra gun forms a perfect handle for Smashdown.
Full on John Henry mode:

Sad part is, I am not getting either Soundwave or Springer, and those both are sources for longer handles or double headed hammers! ugh!

Speaking of which, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Smashdown is a triple-changer!

Hammer
Minotaur
Ghost Trap

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Stargrave wrote:Hey D-Max Soundwave’s extra gun forms a perfect handle for Smashdown.
Full on John Henry mode:

Sad part is, I am not getting either Soundwave or Springer, and those both are sources for longer handles or double headed hammers! ugh!

Speaking of which, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

Smashdown is a triple-changer!

Hammer
Minotaur
Ghost Trap

My god that’s a thing of beauty.

Dude I feel like I can’t accept defeat here. If you’re not getting those guys then I have to think of something for you. Hmmm... I need to go through my TF parts.

Not that there’s anything wrong with a small handle. I have an uncle with a small handle. I’m just sayin’.

Stargrave wrote:Hmmm... I need to go through my TF parts.

Holy shirt! You just made me think of something sort of related!

Ratchet will come with a 5mm compatible wrench. Nautica will get her wrench!!!!

YES!!!!!!

Stargrave wrote:Not that there’s anything wrong with a small handle. I have an uncle with a small handle. I’m just sayin’.

Are you telling me I have a little handle

What? Wait, NO! Nonono...not that there’s anything wrong with that

Dude now I’m dyin’ to see what you’re remembering.

Just throwing in my two cents on the Commander Class Jetfire debate, but I think the figure is exactly what should be expected for the price and the size class, given how the rest of the Siege line has shaped up so far. Jetfire/Skyfire looks just like his G1 Sunbow character model, most so in robot mode, but also very appreciably so in alt mode. The mostly white with some light blue and red highlights is right on the mark. Although it may look plain to some with all that white, that's the way he's "supposed" to look. There is a slight difference in the white plastics used throughout the figure, though, mostly in the lower legs and shoulders, adding that "dirty/gritty" battle-worn effect without going overboard. It helps break things up a bit.

As for the transformation, it's just as complex as it needs to be. Although a lot of it is fairly straight forward and unsurprising, it does do a lot of neat things with hiding the head in a "trap door" on the booster pack, and the way the booster pack, thrusters, and legs all come together is really neat and satisfying. Jet transformers almost always look like a mess from underneath, a squished up robot with a jet on its back, so I'm not holding that against Jetfire now. Skyfire was a blocky looking jet in the cartoon, acting as a Autobot troop transport in Season 1, so the bulky undercarriage makes a lot of sense when viewed from the side. And yes, he is VERY big, even in robot mode, in the cartoon, so this size class suits him well. Watch some of the classic episodes of the G1 cartoon again with Skyfire and then pose him next to Siege Optimus Prime or Starscream. Hasbro and Takara got it right.

A lot of us, myself included, don't really pay enough attention to the "play factor" of these figures either. Jetfire has a LOT of that going on for him, with blaster/thruster/damage effect parts, the ability to fit a Titan Master into his cockpit, and hang bars to "fly" Deluxe Class figures into battle. He's even got a ton of extra armor and weapons to play "dress up" with!

Is Commander Class Jetfire worth $80? He's half the price of Omega Surpeme ($160) and just as tall and massive as a Combiner Wars combiner ($80 - $110). If the transformation were more involved, including numerous robot kibble hiding panels, we'd be talking about a Masterpiece level of engineering, and the $80 price point would blow up like no one's business (well, I guess maybe Takara's business). So, $80 seems right to me, but then again, some people would argue that $20 is too much for a Deluxe sized figure now.

Got notified that Lancer got shipped last night and she was on my porch when I got him from work. Joints are a little more loose than the rest of her cast mates but still pretty good. Had to take a picture of combined mode before I put them back on display.

Not replied in awhile so; Skyfire looks awesome to me and so Sunbow G1, which I love. Scale is pretty close, if maybe an inch or 2 too tall. Leader def too small thou. I have him preordered on Pulse, was going to order when he was available, but that didnt last long.

Hope next commander class figure is SkyLynx

Finally a Rung figure.

Undecided on Astrotrain, even thou it looks fekin sweet, I have Legends version.

Seekers look awesome. I could totally understand someone loading up on this mold. But I have Planet-X WfC Starscream, Igear Raptor Thundercracker, plus waiting on Maketoys Cross Dimension Skywarp, to finish my main 3. But thinking of getting Redwing maybe or another single release.

Apeface is one of my fav Decepticons(also used to be my fav G1 toy), along with Octane who I have Legends version of. Now going to have great updated versions of both. Pre-ordered on Pulse.

Stakeout is best micromaster. And I like him from Wreckers. Masterforce...meh lol. Like most other, Laserbeak is pretty sweet and Ravage is tolerable.

Got to order the Fan Vote 3 pak on Amazon at just 25$, all I had to do was get an Amazon credit card, which cost nothing. Love the IDW head Impactor, and the version I wanted. Powerdasher is a nice surprise and holo Mirage is a nice novelty.

I want Unicron bad but cant really afford him. Hmm, even thou Amazon did just give me a CC, lol.

My top 3 Siege figure so far(that I have):
1 Springer. by far. So awesome and Sunbow G1.
2 Flywheel. So cool and fun. Finally we have both duocons.
3 Prowl. Great Datson bros mold. Cant wait for Smokescreen

Don't think I've seen Orthia with the green limbs as arms and orange limbs as legs. Guessing it would look a lot better than the official combination

Latebrus-K wrote:Don't think I've seen Orthia with the green limbs as arms and orange limbs as legs. Guessing it would look a lot better than the official combination

Lancer will be here tomorrow. *fingers crossed*
But do you mean arms like this?

A little surprised you've not combine Moon Racer's and Novastar's guns for Orthia.

ThunderThruster wrote:A little surprised you've not combine Moon Racer's and Novastar's guns for Orthia.

I have before. Just didn't that time.
But, look closely at Dazzlestrikes new handle.

I always have to extend the legs as much as possible to give the combiners height or just have the arms/legs both shorter just to fit on shelves. Preordered Lancer (September for UK) which gives me enough time to track the other limbs down if I can stop buying titans return figures.

Which ever combination elita ends up in, the unpainted/painted wheel duos will be in the same positions (likely painted ones as legs).

Buck2814 wrote:

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Got notified that Lancer got shipped last night and she was on my porch when I got him from work. Joints are a little more loose than the rest of her cast mates but still pretty good. Had to take a picture of combined mode before I put them back on display.

I see you took the liberty to remove the paint from Elita-1's Prime Armor Feet (I actually forgot they were painted).

Buck2814 wrote:

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Got notified that Lancer got shipped last night and she was on my porch when I got him from work. Joints are a little more loose than the rest of her cast mates but still pretty good. Had to take a picture of combined mode before I put them back on display.

Did your Elita-1 come with Pink Prime Armor, or did you strip the Black Paint off?

Cobotron wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:A little surprised you've not combine Moon Racer's and Novastar's guns for Orthia.

I have before. Just didn't that time.
But, look closely at Dazzlestrikes new handle.

I spotted that. Thought it was a little odd to use that piece as a handle which doesn't make dazzlestrike protrude any further form the combiner fist.

ThunderThruster wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:A little surprised you've not combine Moon Racer's and Novastar's guns for Orthia.

I have before. Just didn't that time.
But, look closely at Dazzlestrikes new handle.

I spotted that. Thought it was a little odd to use that piece as a handle which doesn't make dazzlestrike protrude any further form the combiner fist.

Ha! True, but it gives her an actual handle to hold instead of it just pegging into the thumb and "floating" there. But really, Dazzledog doesn't even make all that impressive of a weapon for a combiner. More of just a hot pocket knife.

When Lancer arrives and I get them all down to play, I'll use POTP Munkky Prime's guns (as per Lunatic Prime's suggestion) to make a nice long Fire Spear.

Cobotron wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:A little surprised you've not combine Moon Racer's and Novastar's guns for Orthia.

I have before. Just didn't that time.
But, look closely at Dazzlestrikes new handle.

I spotted that. Thought it was a little odd to use that piece as a handle which doesn't make dazzlestrike protrude any further form the combiner fist.

Ha! True, but it gives her an actual handle to hold instead of it just pegging into the thumb and "floating" there.

I just discovered it a few minutes ago and logged on planning to tell everyone. I think it looks a lot better than the vanilla approach.

But really, Dazzledog doesn't even make all that impressive of a weapon for a combiner. More of just a hot pocket knife.

It looks better if she's got Lionizer in the other hand - then she's dual wielding little stabby daggers. Though maybe I ought to try turning them upside down...

Kinda want to complete Orthia now...

Anyway, I saw people putting Top3 Siege in here between bashing Chromia and Megatron, so i thought I'd give mine. I like the idea the one guy had that his top 3 are the ones he picks up the most. To that end -

Top 3

Ultra Magnus
Optimus Prime Voyager
Megatron Voyager

(Jetfire will bump Megatron, but I don't have one as yet)
Honorable Mentions go to Soundwave, Prowl (again, not sure of the issue people have - I'm more mad he didn't get shoulder guns), Red Alert, Springer, Hound and Shockwave (which is almost like saying everybody else).

Why these three at the top? They're all great classic representations of beloved characters. I don't get the hate on Megatron besides the QC issues, which my copy does not have.

I don't have any figure in Siege I'm just 'not happy' with. I would not buy it in the first place if I thought any reported issue was going to make me unhappy. This is the best designed line outside of Masterpiece Transformers have had since Car Robots in my view.

The figure I have the most QC level issues with is Chromia, and that isn't enough to make me "unhappy" with the figure, since they mostly stand in state. My copy has a loose leg and her pistol doesn't 100% fit in her hand, an issue were she being played with in a dynamic fashion because it sometimes slips.

If I had to by what I had, Cog would be the top 3.All the others have been represented better in other lines (even cyberverse prowl is more appealing to me than the siege one). This will change as I fill out my collection with a few of the deluxes/voyagers and maybe a leader or two. Jetfires a must but I can probably (definitely could have got one) picked up an old die cast metal veritech at the same price, which though might be better quality, isn't the character.