Flame Toys Reveal Updated Windblade Design

Wait. The previous post was not an official news? That took a while.

Well, it's vacation season after all.

Glad she had her wings so she can still have that Transformer heritage to her, especially since she looked naked without them.

I'm wondering if the larger wings are the only change or if they did additional ones.
Since Cyberverse had her able to near fully retract her wings, I think it would be cool if they had both sets they designed with this model included.

Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

Black Hat wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should not be a Transformers selling point.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:

Black Hat wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Amazing, she’s still Windblade and still feminine without the unnecessary anatomically correct giant breasts. Genuinely interested in getting her now

Was that so hard?

She didn't have "giant breasts" to begin with. Sounds like someone's a closeted misogynist that thinks that female anatomy is inherently offensive.

My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Kids are unlikely to be buying expensive collector's grade model kits. "Think of the children" is not a valid argument.

I don’t want to restart this discourse, and I don’t mean to instigate or anything. I can promise I’m not some closeted misogynist (I mean heck I’ve got figures of Lara Croft, Bayonetta), I just believe there’s a space for everything, and I personally believe sex should (not?) be a Transformers selling point.

Why not? In kids' cartoons I'd agree, but for figures or media aimed at older fans, there is literally nothing wrong with a little bit of flirtiness here and there.

Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Looks like it's time again to pretend this thread doesn't exist.

Amen.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).

(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one,

Emerje

That was my main issue with the OG design. As if a Kotobukiya frame arms girl snuck her way into the Flame Toys model kit line.

The new design look much more like a real Transformers. However, I'll wait for the actual prototype to truly judge. The guys have some crazy designs going for them so if that Windblade end up looking "too normal", it will be disappointing.

Emerje wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:My only issue is the sexualization of TF figures. I mean we’re a kids franchise too, I don’t think it sends the right message if the “boy” figures get media accurate figures while female characters must be sexy.

Not going to pull your opinion apart, but I do wonder what you mean by "media accurate"? Of the 23 announced and released kits the only ones that are accurate to anything are IDW Optimus and his three recolors (clear, Nemesis and UM), IDW Megatron and his slight retool (Autobot and Decepticon), G1 Optimus Prime, IDW Drift and IDW Rodimus. There's really no need for Windblade to be "media accurate" when nearly 2/3 of the current lot are not.

Mind you, I was indifferent to the original design, I've got a bunch of anime girl figures, this would have just been another one, but I did want more jet parts and better wings and that's what I got from this new design. Honestly I think they should make both kits, but since that isn't like I wouldn't be surprised at all if Takara Tomy made some use of the previous design elsewhere since Hasbro backed away from it. In hindsight, it probably wasn't a great idea to go to get a sculpt done by someone known for his statues of naked anime girls (link is safe for work, just don't click on the thumbnails ).

BTW, he commented on the changes on Twitter (wont be linking to that, definitely NSFW).

(Google translation) Due to the intention of the copyright owners, the parts and color scheme have been re-corrected to better reflect the original character's design.

Emerje

Lol, nice (shameless?) plug.

On topic with this, I do agree with your comments regarding the initial design of Flame Toys Windblade not feeling quite Transformery; granted, the proportions of some designs don't make them feel quite right either, but they at least had some parts that would be recognizable from their vehicle mode. The lack of wings almost felt like accessories that were missing out of the box. Best example is if I ever got an Earthrise Starscream but he's missing one of the wings.

Not quoting but a wingless Starscream would look incomplete and weird as Hell.

Greetings Seibertronians! Following the last batch of pictures that revealed, for the first time in colour, the combination of Flame Toys Kuro Kara Kuri Star Saber and Victory Leo, Flame Toys have taken to their social media account to unleash more images of this stunning combination, Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Saber!

















That's not all, sticking with their twitter account, Flane Toys announced a price and release date for Kuro Kara Kuri Victory Leo! Letting fans know when they can create Victory Saber for themselves!

Flame Toys wrote:The pre-order of [Kuro Kara Kuri] Victory Leo start from today !!!

***Product information***

Price : US$400
Estimate Delivery : April, 2021
Size : ~16cm height, 23cm long

- It can combine with Star Saber to become Victory Saber !
- It is fully articulated figure with over 120 articulated positions !
- Super-poseable with diecast parts for solidity and heaviness!
- LED lighting effect on eyes and mouth !

※Star Saber is not included

Both Star Saber and Victory Leo in the Kuro Kara Kuri line are non-transforming premium figures.

What do you think of these high end, non-transforming action figures? Will you be preordering? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

Nice looking Gundam figures.

madhatter090 wrote:Nice looking Gundam figures.

My thought exactly.
Still, the original G1 design is pretty "gundamish" so it get a pass.

Those figures are damn epic! And the price too...

You say Gundam, but Victory Saber is basically homaging Gaogaigar

ThunderThruster wrote:You say Gundam, but Victory Saber is basically homaging Gaogaigar

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Came here to basically say that.

Looks damned nice though!

~ Grim

No offence guys but I think you'll find it's a design coming full circle as G1 Victory Saber influenced the Brave Series (being done by the same people after all) of which Genesic GaoGaiGar was the last...

Though its now amusing to think that despite all the work they put into it, the brave series would come to be owned by Bandai

ZeroWolf wrote:No offence guys but I think you'll find it's a design coming full circle as G1 Victory Saber influenced the Brave Series (being done by the same people after all) of which Genesic GaoGaiGar was the last...

Though its now amusing to think that despite all the work they put into it, the brave series would come to be owned by Bandai

And Bandai make Gundam.

At this point, it's no longer a circle. It's an ouroboros.

Bandai own all the best non-tf mecha

Would still kill for a proper gundam x Transformers story mind. O can see humans building mobile suits to fight Cybertronians on an equal footing.

ZeroWolf wrote:Bandai own all the best non-tf mecha

Would still kill for a proper gundam x Transformers story mind. O can see humans building mobile suits to fight Cybertronians on an equal footing.

Well, close enough...

Eh, I honestly don't much care for crossovers. Unless they're very silly, or tongue-in-cheek oneshots, I find them kinda hokey. They can work- Space Patrol Luluco having the characters meet other Trigger anime denizens like Sucy, INFERNO COP and so on was funny as hell, but none of those shows were meant to be serious.

Anyway.

Victory Sabre looks amazing! I know it's not Victory accurate but having the lion chest really makes him look even more awesome. I always thought the standard "platform shoes and a backpack" setup was kind of boring so this is a change for the better.

ZeroWolf wrote:No offence guys but I think you'll find it's a design coming full circle as G1 Victory Saber influenced the Brave Series (being done by the same people after all) of which Genesic GaoGaiGar was the last...

Not offence taken. Always good to learn new stuff.

~ Grim

This year's New York Comic Con didn't happen as scheduled but the planned exclusive products for the event are still finding avenues for release. A Flame Toys model kit version of Bug Bite has been available to preorder since late last week as an exclusive on the Bluefin website. This is a recolor of their earlier Bumblebee kit, is set to ship out in about a month and will set you back $37 before shipping and tax. Like all Flame Toys kits, this version of Bug Bite does not transform.

The 16th entry of the Furai Model line, Bug Bite is here! Bug Bite was recently seen in the trailer for Transformers: War for Cybertron Earthrise on Netflix! The model is about 5.5 inches tall and 6 inches tall with the helicopter engine equipped. The model has over 50 movable joints that let's you set any pose easily. Model kit is made of hard plastic ABS & P and is good for experienced modelers and newcomers alike! This model is a NYCC Bluefin exclusive!

The preorder window for this kit is limited though a solid end time isn't posted, so it may be wise to act now if you're looking to add this kit to your collection.

I sense an incoming Masterpiece too. Yet again, I am no Jedi (nor Sith, unfortunately).

angtre wrote:I sense an incoming Masterpiece too. Yet again, I am no Jedi (nor Sith, unfortunately).

Forget the MP. They couldn't even make Select Bugbite into the VW Bee in the first place.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

angtre wrote:I sense an incoming Masterpiece too. Yet again, I am no Jedi (nor Sith, unfortunately).

Forget the MP. They couldn't even make Select Bugbite into the VW Bee in the first place.

That actually makes sense, since there could have been licensing issues that they could only justify for a major character such as 'bee.

As much as I preferred the first MP 'bee, for the second one they barely homaged a real-world car, meaning they probably can simply repaint it without any additional fee, thus amortising all the engineering behind it on a new figure.

Yet, as stated before, I am no fortune-teller.

VW have a tight leash on their license. Even in super deformed "toon car" looks, the license still apply with the logo and everything.

-Kanrabat- wrote:VW have a tight leash on their license. Even in super deformed "toon car" looks, the license still apply with the logo and everything.

You're probably right, I saw the VW logo on the box of MP-45. I didn't remember it well, since I skipped that particular toy.

I do like the nod to the Action Master Bumblebee figure.

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, Powered Convoy, has let us know that Flame Toys have unveiled theiratest addition to their Kuro Kara Kuri range, the dreaded Fallen!









Based on the original Dreamwave version of the character, as seen in the War Within series. The only other time the character recieved a figure was in the Transformers Titanium line.

Here is the details that Flame Toys provided:

Flame Toys wrote:[Kuro Kara Kuri] The Fallen
pre-order start !

***Product information ①***

Retail Price : US$400
Size : ~21cm height
5 LED units : Eye, chest, shoulder and foot side weapon case
Sale : ~June, 2021

[Kuro Kara Kuri] The Fallen
pre-order start !

***Product information ②***

Here is the sale channel for your reference :
http://www.d4toys.com/ (with bonus part)

http://et-toys.com/

You have to order through d4toys to get the bonus weapon.

What do you think of this version of the Fallen? Will you be adding him to your collection? Do you have any of the other Kuro Kara Kuri figures? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

That Fallen is absolutely BAD-ASS!

Being rich with the mansion to go with it, I'd be all over that figure. But sadly, my Titanium Fallen will have to do.

-Kanrabat- wrote:That Fallen is absolutely BAD-ASS!

Being rich with the mansion to go with it, I'd be all over that figure. But sadly, my Titanium Fallen will have to do.

Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.


Transformers Titanium Series The Fallen Gallery

My only issues with it are his rubbery guns, and his non descript hand blocks. Outside of that its one of the better Titanium Figures, and i own G.I. Joe Megs. So I kmow.

I was cool with it until they said he was $400

Overcracker wrote:
Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.

Officially speaking yes. But including 3p? I respectfully disagree.

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.

Officially speaking yes. But including 3p? I respectfully disagree.

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Official yes. 3P is a whole universe of options which has its own forum section.

Overcracker wrote:

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.

Officially speaking yes. But including 3p? I respectfully disagree.

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Official yes. 3P is a whole universe of options which has its own forum section.

Is the any other fallen figure outside of the titanium? Excluding the bay design.

The point is that talk of 3rd party figures stay in the non- Transformers and KO forum this toy forum is for official stuff only.

I'd love to see a "G1" Commander class The Fallen figure.
Because as good as the Titanium is, it's pretty outdated.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd love to see a "G1" Commander class The Fallen figure.
Because as good as the Titanium is, it's pretty outdated.

A Fallen in any size class of Voyager or up would be great. Him and an actually accurate Nova Prime- I've never cared for IDW but he had such a cool design.

Speaking of old perpetually on fire comic characters that need new figures, when the hell are we getting a decent Sunstorm? A friend of mine had a cool idea of molding parts of him in clear orange plastic that had gold chrome applied to the inside, as if he were blazing with solar power.

Black Hat wrote:Speaking of old perpetually on fire comic characters that need new figures, when the hell are we getting a decent Sunstorm? A friend of mine had a cool idea of molding parts of him in clear orange plastic that had gold chrome applied to the inside, as if he were blazing with solar power.

Damn. That would be cool as hell!

ZeroWolf wrote:The point is that talk of 3rd party figures stay in the non- Transformers and KO forum this toy forum is for official stuff only.

Ah I didn't realize I was forbidden from discussing it. Judging by the rude responses, I will refrain from commenting in the future.

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.

Officially speaking yes. But including 3p? I respectfully disagree.

ceb62630ly1gep4tzs5csj20u00rwqbv.jpg

9226412428_05aca7306f_b.jpg

Official yes. 3P is a whole universe of options which has its own forum section.

Is the any other fallen figure outside of the titanium? Excluding the bay design.

Some, not called out as "The Fallen", but by his original name of Megatronus (Prime):


Transformers: Robots In Disguise Megatronus Gallery


Power of the Primes Bomb-Burst with Megatronus Prime

If you feel like customizing, in the Train Wars manga, he appeared as a redeco of FoC Onslaught:

Transformers Fall of Cybertron Onslaught Gallery

... with FoC Ruination's head for the combined mode:

Transformers Generations Ruination Gallery

LE0KING wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:The point is that talk of 3rd party figures stay in the non- Transformers and KO forum this toy forum is for official stuff only.

Ah I didn't realize I was forbidden from discussing it. Judging by the rude responses, I will refrain from commenting in the future.

No need to refrain from commenting no harm was done.

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

LE0KING wrote:

Overcracker wrote:
Honestly, Titanium is the best representation of the fallen there is that does not cost $400 bucks.

Officially speaking yes. But including 3p? I respectfully disagree.

ceb62630ly1gep4tzs5csj20u00rwqbv.jpg

9226412428_05aca7306f_b.jpg

Official yes. 3P is a whole universe of options which has its own forum section.

Is the any other fallen figure outside of the titanium? Excluding the bay design.

There are several nods to him as pointed out. And of course this very $400 dollar figure.

And yes I agree he needs an update. A retool of Siege Megs would like work.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Because as good as the Titanium is, it's pretty outdated.

No, it's shit. It had potential but the over-abudance of die-cast ruined it like most of the Titanium line.

Its interesting that hasbro have moved away from the monkier 'The Fallen', we haven't even had a movie version of the character in Studio Series yet. Then again, who knows what the next generations line will bring.