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More Images: Universe Swindle And Vortex

Posted by Tigertrack Oct 26, 2008 at 7:50am CDT 11,980 views
Earlier we have been favored with rumors of a repaint of the Energon Bruticus Maximus toy for the new Universe line.

Now some more individual pictures have appeared for the two helicopters in the group, Swindle and Vortex, repaints of the Energon Blackout mold.

You can view the images by clicking the links here and here. Some of the images are mirrored below, along with the rumored new Universe Bruticus Maximus repaint image.

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Comment by Mkall Oct 26, 2008
Definitely gonna get this figure. Can't wait.
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Comment by Diem Oct 26, 2008
But why is Swindle a h...

...oh, sod it. Whatever.
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Comment by soundwave13c Oct 26, 2008
looks okay, never was a fan of combiner bots :-B
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Comment by dr_n00b Oct 26, 2008
logical as ever Hasbro...
you have a new onslaught mold out, which rocks. leg connectors shouldn't be a problem, arm connectors might be trickier. but hey, if city commander showed us anything, it's that augmenting an existing mold is possible, even if said mold wasn't meant for it originally.

yet despite everything, they choose to repaint a 4 year old mold.
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Comment by DMSL Oct 26, 2008
Horrible toy, Hasbro should make a decent combiner or none at all.
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Comment by Loki God Of Mischief Oct 26, 2008
Diem wrote:But why is Swindle a h...

...oh, sod it. Whatever.


Agreed. Given the limited number of molds it would be better if Swindle were one of the tanks, given that he's a land unit. I'd rather see one of the helicopters in Blast Offs colors and name then Swindle. That being said since Swindle and Vortex are helicopters, it's safe to say Onslaught's well Onslaught, and at least one of the tanks is Brawl. So who's the second tank? If it's Blast Off I feel a facepalm and a headache coming on.
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Comment by Solrac333 Oct 26, 2008
That just looks bad.
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Comment by Diem Oct 26, 2008
Merc With A Mouth wrote:
Diem wrote:But why is Swindle a h...

...oh, sod it. Whatever.


Agreed. Given the limited number of molds it would be better if Swindle were one of the tanks, given that he's a land unit. I'd rather see one of the helicopters in Blast Offs colors and name then Swindle. That being said since Swindle and Vortex are helicopters, it's safe to say Onslaught's well Onslaught, and at least one of the tanks is Brawl. So who's the second tank? If it's Blast Off I feel a facepalm and a headache coming on.
If I remember that instruction booklet from a while back then yeah, Mr. B. Off Esquire is indeed a tank.

Maybe they're trying to differentiate this Swindle from Animated. Whatever.

I wish that Universe Onslaught, Animated Swindle and Movie Brawl could all merge (along with...um...RID Vortex and Unicron Trilogy Blast Off?)
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Comment by Auto Bot Oct 26, 2008
So, now, we have an Ultra Onslaught with all the blings, but can't combine.

And, another Deluxe Onslaught that can combine.

The chopper mode of Swindle and Vortex is not bad. But the robot mode... not!
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Comment by dragons Oct 26, 2008
energon combinors i dont like they cant hold anything with tose type of hands g1, g2 combinors i like. i feel were getting ripped of with the enrgon combinors energon combinors cant hold anything there hands & they dont come with weapons for when they combine.
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Comment by Dr. Caelus Oct 26, 2008
dragons wrote:energon combinors i dont like they cant hold anything with tose type of hands g1, g2 combinors i like. i feel were getting ripped of with the enrgon combinors energon combinors cant hold anything there hands & they dont come with weapons for when they combine.


This is not 100% True.

I have Constructicon Maximus and Classics Devastator on top of my desk. Devastator has Minicons linked to his hands for weapons, and Maximus is crushing a clone trooper in one of his.

Besides, the Gestalt guns seldom made sense. Woohoo, Devastator has a super-big cannon... that Mixmaster has anyway... The exception that I'd concede to is Piranacon, otherwise, it's not like the gestalts' weapons were actually all that useful.
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Comment by Hard Hacker Oct 26, 2008
I like it. It might be a bit expensive to try and create new mould Combaticons, especially how the central component wasn't able to comebine, so they went for something that was good enough.

And I like the Energon combiner moulds, so any additions to my (limited) collection would be accepted with open arms.
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Comment by First-Aid Oct 26, 2008
dr_n00b wrote:logical as ever Hasbro...
you have a new onslaught mold out, which rocks. leg connectors shouldn't be a problem, arm connectors might be trickier. but hey, if city commander showed us anything, it's that augmenting an existing mold is possible, even if said mold wasn't meant for it originally.

yet despite everything, they choose to repaint a 4 year old mold.


It's called "the bottom line". They are into making money, not catering to the whims of fanboys everywhere. I'm sure some people there would LOVE to do that...the engineering challenges would make it worth it...but the stockholders and board of directors say otherwise. More than likely they weighed the option and decided that the short term losses in terms of manpower and hours would be far to significant...especially when you consider the current state of the economy. People are hanging on to their money, disposable income is down significantly, we're on the brink of a global recession (or in it already depending on which party's candidates you talk to), so they chose to go with a low-cost alternative. Makes sense to me...
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Comment by GreenLantern of Cybertron Oct 26, 2008
Not buying either,
Not a fan of clear plastic, and the combiner is pretty ugly.
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Comment by Auto Bot Oct 26, 2008
First-Aid wrote:
dr_n00b wrote:logical as ever Hasbro...
you have a new onslaught mold out, which rocks. leg connectors shouldn't be a problem, arm connectors might be trickier. but hey, if city commander showed us anything, it's that augmenting an existing mold is possible, even if said mold wasn't meant for it originally.

yet despite everything, they choose to repaint a 4 year old mold.


It's called "the bottom line". They are into making money, not catering to the whims of fanboys everywhere. I'm sure some people there would LOVE to do that...the engineering challenges would make it worth it...but the stockholders and board of directors say otherwise. More than likely they weighed the option and decided that the short term losses in terms of manpower and hours would be far to significant...especially when you consider the current state of the economy. People are hanging on to their money, disposable income is down significantly, we're on the brink of a global recession (or in it already depending on which party's candidates you talk to), so they chose to go with a low-cost alternative. Makes sense to me...


But they'll lose money just the same, if not enough buyers buy this rehash figure. It's not a sure shot "good" decision.
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Comment by Sledge Oct 26, 2008
You're assuming people won't buy it because you won't. I'm gonna go with the expertise of an international toy company who've been selling this line for 25 years over that of some dude on the interwebz.
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Comment by Auto Bot Oct 26, 2008
Sledge wrote:You're assuming people won't buy it because you won't. I'm gonna go with the expertise of an international toy company who've been selling this line for 25 years over that of some dude on the interwebz.


It's called "presenting the possible other side of the coin". It's not a foregone conclusion of some dude on the interwebz.

Notice the "if". I just didn't highlight it.

It's not a sure shot good decision. That's not cutting out all chances of a good decision. It's just not sure.

There was no mention of "people won't buy it". Or that everyone should follow my choice. It's presenting the possibility that not enough people buy it.

Sometimes you have to read the posts in its entirety. And not just shoot out random sarcasm random posts.
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Comment by dr_n00b Oct 26, 2008
First-Aid wrote:
dr_n00b wrote:logical as ever Hasbro...
you have a new onslaught mold out, which rocks. leg connectors shouldn't be a problem, arm connectors might be trickier. but hey, if city commander showed us anything, it's that augmenting an existing mold is possible, even if said mold wasn't meant for it originally.

yet despite everything, they choose to repaint a 4 year old mold.


It's called "the bottom line". They are into making money, not catering to the whims of fanboys everywhere. I'm sure some people there would LOVE to do that...the engineering challenges would make it worth it...but the stockholders and board of directors say otherwise. More than likely they weighed the option and decided that the short term losses in terms of manpower and hours would be far to significant...especially when you consider the current state of the economy. People are hanging on to their money, disposable income is down significantly, we're on the brink of a global recession (or in it already depending on which party's candidates you talk to), so they chose to go with a low-cost alternative. Makes sense to me...


yet so many people paid around 100$ for the city commander set, which apparently was cost effective to produce. and it sold out, and then got a repaint I'm sure more people would buy.
Releasing random shelfwarming repaints (like the recent Scattorshot second repaint in a year, or the endless movie repaints) that cost exactly as new molds do (which thanks to the price increase is now even less worthy of your dollar) equals *no* respect for fans' intelligence, and considering how big and organized the fan base you so easily dismissed is, you can make sure a good product would advertise itself throughout the fan community and sell. I mean, who the hell were Fansproject? they could never have afforded to exist without the publicity given to them by the fans.
It is REALLY sad Hasbro doesn't listen to the fan community, and produce these 3rd party products themselves. if any good, they WILL sell, and would probably cost the end user much less than these limited amount customs.
I can go on and on about this, and go into much larger issues - such as how talk of a coming recession of which dimensions aren't yet known only creates a snowball mentality in the market, and I'm sure the eagerness of both candidates to get elected has driven them to scare tactics using the economy as leverage, but eh, what the heck.

Bottom line, I'd buy appendages to complete a Bruticus and a Superion with the recent classics' ultras. I'd even buy the ugly ass and lazy Silverbolt for it. And I'm 100% certain not a fan in the world would miss it, especially given normal Hasbro prices, and not overpriced 3rd party rates.
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Comment by Auto Bot Oct 26, 2008
Yup. That's somewhere in the line of "possible other side of the coin" that i'm talking about.
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Comment by NuclearConvoy Oct 26, 2008
Swindle just looks a touch too bland for my tastes.
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