New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider

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Cyberpath has sent our way some pictures from TF Yuki's twitter featuring Unite Warriors Dragstrip, Slingshot, Wildrider and Groove (who is still unfinished). Enjoy !

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Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693863)
Posted by RhA on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:55am CDT

Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693864)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:56am CDT

RhA wrote:Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.

Even Dragstrip? Groove has more paint apps than him.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693867)
Posted by RhA on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:05am CDT

william-james88 wrote:
RhA wrote:Groove looks Groovy. The rest is okay.

Even Dragstrip? Groove has more paint apps than him.

Dragstrip! You lose!

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693880)
Posted by shajaki on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:27am CDT

Wow.. Dragstrip sure is.. yellow. Which is hard to complain about since its accurate. But damn..

Groove however makes me happy in ways I'd rather not describe.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693883)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:31am CDT

shajaki wrote:Wow.. Dragstrip sure is.. yellow. Which is hard to complain about since its accurate. But damn..

Groove however makes me happy in ways I'd rather not describe.

And for those same reasons, his heavier price tag makes me sad

Also, while the headsculpt is awesome, I am surprised Takara didnt go screen accurate with his eyes:

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693886)
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:36am CDT

I love drag strip. Weather your a G1 cartoon or vintage toy guy, he never had all that purple on him. Good ridance to it. I love all these more cartoon accurate takara versions. I plan to display these takara versions as teams with Renderforms awesome guns. The hasbro versions will be combined with perfect effect add ons. I already have a shoe box for all the goofy toe knuckle fists and corny tailpipe clubs I wont be using. And I already know at some point groove will be made available individually for Hasbro sets, be it an exclusive or a KO, ill buy it.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693897)
Posted by megatronus on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:51am CDT

I wasn't sure about Dragstrip before, but I do think he looks good. A couple smaller details or washes wouldn't have hurt, but as it is, I'm happy.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693903)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:12am CDT

Yeesh, that Drag Strip is eye-searing. I'm keeping my Hasbro Drag Strip thank you very much.

Groove looks good but I prefer Rook in his place with Groove as a chestplate. I'd totally be down for the mold as Afterburner though.

Wildrider and Slingshot I don't care about. I don't mind the use of retools at all but I don't really want to have 2 of the same mold in a combiner. I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693904)
Posted by Shockwave7 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:16am CDT

I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693909)
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT

These look good but I greatly prefer my Hasbro Wildrider and Slingshot. The extra red on Wildrider helps set him apart from Deadend. I love how the Hasbro Stunticons look together combined and seperate. Like someone mentioned though those Renderfrom guns look pretty tight. The blue eye visor looks better on Slingshot, even if its not G1 cartoon accurate, and the gold on his knees. Slingshot is the only aerialbot I own or plan to buy as he is my fav and I have to think that mould was made for him first.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693912)
Posted by Hero Alpha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:26am CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:I totally understand G1 'purism'. But to me, it never has, and still doesn't make sense to have a motorcycle that seems to be as massive as a car or a truck. I know most people just say 'mass-forming', but that's the lazy way out - akin to Xena saying 'a wizard did it'.

'But what about the...'
'Wizard!'
'But in this scene it very clearly...'
'WIZARD!!!'

Even in the Prime series, they had to make Arcee mass form a LOT to make her even close to the size of the other Autobots. If her robot mode remained true to the mass and size she had as a motorcycle, she'd have only been maybe seven or eight feet tall and a few hundred pounds, not the near-twenty feet and 2-3 tons they had her clomping around in on the show.

Groove would suffer similarly. Even the biggest, beefiest motorcycles on the roads today don't come anywhere near to being as massive as an Ambulance or a sports car. Sure, you can MAKE one that big, but a person riding around in such a king-sized motorcycle would look ridiculous, just as a grown man would look ridiculous trying to ride on a children's tricycle.

So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

I have to agree I like Groove as legends size better. I am pretty much a G1 purist having been 6 and obsessed with Transformers in 84' and I like my minibots legends size and Groove will fit right in. Deluxe Groove does look great and I can justify him being that big of a bike in alt mode as like the junkions where another bot can ride him.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693913)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:29am CDT

It's fantasy.

It's fun.

But if anyone still wants deluxe Groove for the "G1" accuracy but has issues with the scale of the vehicular-mode, they could use him as a Transformer's motorbike like the Junkions in TFTM. Could make for some cool poses of the other bots riding the motorcycle.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693914)
Posted by guarayakha on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:29am CDT

Is it me, or does Groove looks like he's stomping in on Hasbro's HQ to get that guy who thought replacing him with Rook was a great idea? :lol:

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693915)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:31am CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:
So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

I like your positivity with hasbro's approach. But Groove wouldn't be the only thing not in scale. A Helicopter is bigger than an ambulance which is bigger than a sports car, no?

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693916)
Posted by RiddlerJ on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:33am CDT

Yeah, I like the Hasbro versions of these guys better. These are more G1 accurate but their original toys were smaller and could get away with simpler paint jobs.

I would like that Groove but as long as I, at least, have A Groove for the Protectabots, I'm happy.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693924)
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:54am CDT

Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693925)
Posted by steals_your_goats on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:59am CDT

Rated X wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Or you could just keep him as the character he is. That's always a possibility.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693932)
Posted by DMSL on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:08am CDT

They look really nice, BUT...Takara please make the Aerialbots' guns black. Not the feet/hand/gun contraption, but the individual guns, it would look much better. Also that exhaust pipe weapon sucks, please include a proper gun.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693935)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:19am CDT

Rated X wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Vortex's head is generic as all hell. I'd prefer it if they gave him a completely new headsculpt and a new vehicle shell, possibly resembling an Apache attack helicopter. That way he could look completely different to Alpha Bravo.

And Alpha Bravo can't be a "lazy repaint of Vortex" because CW Vortex isn't even out yet.

You know what I wanna do? I wanna get hold of a G1 Superion set and a G1 Vortex, repaint Vortex to resemble Alpha Bravo and replace Slingshot with him. And do the same with Menasor by repainting G1 Swindle into Offroad. Making a Rook will be difficult...Brawl will need heavy mods for it to work.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693937)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:30am CDT

Come on, we all know that Slingshot is just an alternate version of alpha bravo that was unlucky and got #rekt. Also Vortex and Blastoff's head's are completely different shapes compared to Alpha Bravo.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693963)
Posted by Rated X on June 3rd, 2015 @ 12:38pm CDT

Delta Magnus wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:I hope the inevitable Alpha Bravo into Vortex retool has some serious bodywork done to make him less obviously a grey Alpha Bravo.

I think you got it backwards buddy. The head mold was always meant to be vortex, they just painted it to resemble slingshot. The alt mode is a generic helicopter that can pass off as either being military or rescue for both blades and vortex. (hence the missiles) In other words, alpha bravo is the lazy repaint. But you can put him in your shattered glass colection as SG Vortex...problem solved !

Vortex's head is generic as all hell. I'd prefer it if they gave him a completely new headsculpt and a new vehicle shell, possibly resembling an Apache attack helicopter. That way he could look completely different to Alpha Bravo.

And Alpha Bravo can't be a "lazy repaint of Vortex" because CW Vortex isn't even out yet.

You know what I wanna do? I wanna get hold of a G1 Superion set and a G1 Vortex, repaint Vortex to resemble Alpha Bravo and replace Slingshot with him. And do the same with Menasor by repainting G1 Swindle into Offroad. Making a Rook will be difficult...Brawl will need heavy mods for it to work.

It doesnt matter which deco was released first. What matters is who the mold was designed to be in the first place. The intended character is the original and the "new" character is the repaint.

But it would be amusing to see someone amputate a vintage G1 Superion and give him a prosthetic Alpha Bravo limb.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693968)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on June 3rd, 2015 @ 12:55pm CDT

Gotta say I much prefer the Hasbro version of most of these. Any pics of Groove in bike mode surface yet?

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693971)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 12:59pm CDT

NuclearConvoy wrote:Gotta say I much prefer the Hasbro version of most of these. Any pics of Groove in bike mode surface yet?

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693980)
Posted by no-one on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:

Dragstrip reminds me of that Yella Fella trying to sell me 2x4s.

As far as Groove and his scale is concerned, I'm going to steal a line from shajaki: I like motorcycle robits. I really hope we get his mold/remold released state side. I'm kind of a sucker for motorcycle bots.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693982)
Posted by Shockwave7 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:27pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:
So I have no problem replacing Rook as Defensor's left leg with a vehicle that's more 'in scale'. I just can't suspend my disbelief enough to accept a 2-wheeler vehicle designed to carry only 1-2 persons having enough mass and weight to compare with the others.

I like your positivity with hasbro's approach. But Groove wouldn't be the only thing not in scale. A Helicopter is bigger than an ambulance which is bigger than a sports car, no?

I'd like it if they DID put some more effort into making the sizes more accurate. After all, they had Broadside, the G1 triple-changer aircraft carrier figure, being the same size as the other triple changers. Now, wrap, your minds around that. A Transformer that turns into an AIRCRAFT CARRIER. It should have been the same size as Metroplex or Trypticon. An aircraft carrier is a floating CITY for cryin' out loud.

You could go through the list of all the characters and point out all kinds of stuff like this (Soundwave, Megatron, et. al). Which is why so many people keep saying stuff like, 'Oh it's just fantasy' and 'oh it's just fun'.

Which is, all to say, in essence, 'A wizard did it.'

But all the evidence clearly indicates that the....

WIZARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693983)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:31pm CDT

carytheone wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:

Dragstrip reminds me of that Yella Fella trying to sell me 2x4s.

To me he looks like a toddler wearing yellow footie pajamas.

I have to say, I wish Hasbro Quickslinger had the orange eyes too. Blue just seems off to me. Everything else on him I like, but that one thing makes Sling look a little better.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693984)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:32pm CDT

Groove looks really good. That's probably the best representation of the Harley Davidson police cycle. I hope it gets a US release but just in case I have my pre-order in.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693985)
Posted by no-one on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:34pm CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:After all, they had Broadside, the G1 triple-changer aircraft carrier figure, being the same size as the other triple changers. Now, wrap, your minds around that. A Transformer that turns into an AIRCRAFT CARRIER. It should have been the same size as Metroplex or Trypticon. An aircraft carrier is a floating CITY for cryin' out loud.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold your horses. Why even bother with trying to explain mass shifting? I'm thinking we could even get a GI Joe cross over. Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

We will need a new size class though. Something bigger than a titan....

obviously I'm kidding

or am I?

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1693986)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 1:34pm CDT

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694006)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:08pm CDT

In the cartoon the characters were generally in the "correct" size in alt-mode, more or less. I've always loved that about the show. The way that they changed so dynamically. And I love that they just did it -- it was never referenced in dialogue and was never attempted to be explained with overly-elaborate made-up science.

For instance, love how Astrotrain, an average Decepticon, can accommodate all the Decepticons in his space-shuttle mode.

Or how Optimus Prime transforms into a semi-trailer truck, while his evil counterpart into a hand-gun.

Creators simply don't have that level of creativity and sense of fantasy anymore. Not just in cartoons, but also in movies and comics. Everyone tries to be so "realistic." (In a medium where you can do virtually anything you dream up.)

The scale of the original toys is pretty much blah in both modes. But the show came afterwards and it grabbed the toys from several different Japanese lines. They were also made for kids. Their creators probably never dreamed people would still be into it today.

btw, in the cartoon, Broadside was a big robot, and even bigger as an aircraft carrier.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694012)
Posted by King Kuuga on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:19pm CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:I'd like it if they DID put some more effort into making the sizes more accurate. After all, they had Broadside, the G1 triple-changer aircraft carrier figure, being the same size as the other triple changers. Now, wrap, your minds around that. A Transformer that turns into an AIRCRAFT CARRIER. It should have been the same size as Metroplex or Trypticon. An aircraft carrier is a floating CITY for cryin' out loud.

You could go through the list of all the characters and point out all kinds of stuff like this (Soundwave, Megatron, et. al). Which is why so many people keep saying stuff like, 'Oh it's just fantasy' and 'oh it's just fun'.

Which is, all to say, in essence, 'A wizard did it.'

But all the evidence clearly indicates that the....

WIZARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't forget that Broadside also turns into a jet. AKA, the kind of thing his other alt mode is supposed to be able to carry hundreds of. Yeahhhhhhh....

Groove being a leg is not the worst thing about Defensor, but I also like Rook a lot. The obvious solution is to kick Blades off, because as an aerial vehicle he clearly doesn't fit.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694013)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:In the cartoon the characters were generally in the "correct" size in alt-mode, more or less.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694018)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:27pm CDT

I dont know if I am reading everything correctly, but the vibe I get is that scale doesnt matter and thus there was no use for Groove to not be a leg. Is that right? I dont mind Rook at all (he could have been released as part of a fully new combiner figure), but it seems no one cares that Hasbro's excuse for Groove being a legends figure is that they care about scale, all of a sudden.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694020)
Posted by Robogeek1973 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:30pm CDT

Groove is looking really good so far, now bring him over here Hasbro!! :lol:

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694022)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:I dont know if I am reading everything correctly, but the vibe I get is that scale doesnt matter and thus there was no use for Groove to not be a leg. Is that right? I dont mind Rook at all (he could have been released as part of a fully new combiner figure), but it seems no one cares that Hasbro's excuse for Groove being a legends figure is that they care about scale, all of a sudden.

Some people are fine with Hasbro making Groove smaller to avoid scale absurdity, and some just don't care and want Groove as a leg.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694024)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:31pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:In the cartoon the characters were generally in the "correct" size in alt-mode, more or less.

That's a shot from pilot, here's another one.

cliffjumper.jpg

Also, don't forget that Cliffjumper was a "super-deformed" car.

Annnd... "generally" and "more or less."

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694028)
Posted by King Kuuga on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:35pm CDT

TFWiki wrote:Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694030)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:37pm CDT

Cyberpath wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:In the cartoon the characters were generally in the "correct" size in alt-mode, more or less.
That's a shot from pilot, here's another one.

cliffjumper.jpg

So? He was still consistently depicted as an abnormally tiny Porche throughout the show:

Cyberpath wrote:Also, don't forget that Cliffjumper was a "super-deformed" car.

"Super-deformed" = not the "correct" size.

Cyberpath wrote:Annnd... "generally" and "more or less."

Making Cliffjumper and pretty much every Minibot being the prominent exceptions.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694031)
Posted by Cyberpath on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:42pm CDT

There you go, an exception.

Cliff's D-style design gives him a "dense" appearance.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694034)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT

That Bot wrote:
TFWiki wrote:Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed.

What matters is, is it a cool toy?

Deluxe Groove looks to be a cool toy. And, he is a limb for Defensor, which is part of what Groove is to me.

If you* like Rook, and if you like Legends Groove, then cool for you... especially since we're both getting what we want, thus everyone should be happy.

*That is a general "you." This post isn't specifically directed at you, That Bot. Just wanted to make that clear, since I started by quoting you. But, I gather we're actually in agreement! I quoted you as a natural springboard for my comment, not out of a desire to rebut your comment.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694037)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:53pm CDT

Yotsuyasan wrote:
If you* like Rook, and if you like Legends Groove, then cool for you... especially since we're both getting what we want, thus everyone should be happy.

I am not too happy that it is costing way more to get the Deluxe Groove mold than any other mold so far. Sorry to be such a debbie downer but I still find it's exclusivity to Takaratomy mall in the japanese market to be such an odd choice for a product of the main UW line.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694039)
Posted by RhA on June 3rd, 2015 @ 2:58pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Yotsuyasan wrote:
If you* like Rook, and if you like Legends Groove, then cool for you... especially since we're both getting what we want, thus everyone should be happy.

I am not too happy that it is costing way more to get the Deluxe Groove mold than any other mold so far. Sorry to be such a debbie downer but I still find it's exclusivity to Takaratomy mall in the japanese market to be such an odd choice for a product of the main UW line.

Just give it time and, eventually, Rook will be a leg for Prime.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694040)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on June 3rd, 2015 @ 3:01pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Yotsuyasan wrote:
If you* like Rook, and if you like Legends Groove, then cool for you... especially since we're both getting what we want, thus everyone should be happy.

I am not too happy that it is costing way more to get the Deluxe Groove mold than any other mold so far.

I will grant that that part is a bit annoying. All things considered, it would be nice if Takara's Defensor wasn't an exclusive. Or, for those who'd prefer not to pay import prices, if we could know to expect one from Hasbro. But at least we're getting one.

Deluxe Groove costing too much, though, is a different thing to me then people arguing which scale class is appropriate to the character. So yes, the inflated cost of it being not only an import, but an exclusive import is something legitimate to be grumpy about. I'm a bit grumpy about it too. But on the issue of, "Groove should be Legends because scale makes sense!" vs. "Groove should be Deluxe because he should be a limb!" On that issue, both are being made, so as I said, everyone should be happy.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694043)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 3:04pm CDT

Yotsuyasan wrote:On that issue, both are being made, so as I said, everyone should be happy.

Looks like we agree on all accounts then

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694044)
Posted by Yotsuyasan on June 3rd, 2015 @ 3:07pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:Looks like we agree on all accounts then

If memory serves, that isn't uncommon. :lol:

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694145)
Posted by jacobusprime on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:18pm CDT

That headsculpt on Groove...love it....I neeeeeed.

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694156)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 8:32pm CDT

Shockwave7 wrote:
NuclearConvoy wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
NuclearConvoy wrote:Oddly, even as a kid Groove being the size of a car or helicopter bothered me a lot, yet a helicopter, jeep, tank, and space shuttle being the same size was totally cool. Weird.
Evidently, this is precisely the kind of kid scale logic Hasbro had in mind when choosing to make Groove smaller.

To a kid, vehicles meant to hold one person at a time are smaller than vehicles meant to hold multiple people at a time, but the vehicles of that latter category can all be the same size regardless of how differently-sized they are in real life (i.e. - a space shuttle vs. a Jeep)

Yay! I contributed something useful!

It's true - some of the mass shifting was just easier to swallow than others Even I winked at a Space shuttle turning into an 'arm' sized attachment to a missile trailer in Bruticus. I laughed at ALL the Cons fitting inside Astrotrain in the 85 movie, but didn't make much of a fuss over it. And I thought it merely an odd paradox that broadside turns from an aircraft carrier INTO a jet...

Wizard!

Yeah, I think we are all reaching a similar understanding and agreement in this thread. Even agreeing with X who has some pretty good points about the robots scaling with each other in robot mode (which I feel is important to recreate some scenes from the show). And it makes sense that we are all agreeing in the Takara thread since this is the version of the line that has embraced the goofiness of scale the best

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694202)
Posted by shajaki on June 3rd, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT

Since scale is such a hot topic today, I suggest we move it here

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694229)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 10:49pm CDT

I think it's pretty funny that there are still so many "conversations" about scale...
And yeah at one point, back in 2007, I too was sucked into similar conversations.
Just figured by now that would be a buried horse.
Almost as funny as this forum member who seriously attacked me and others about how stupid it was to speculate/discuss Hasbro ever releasing deluxe-sized seekers since they had been at Botcon...
Boy, he showed us... We were all IDIOTS!!!!

Anyway, just wanted to voice my surprise that people haven't been more excited about the Unite Warriors Stunticons...
I know it's not new news.
However, most of those characters haven't been given solid, non-exclusive or non-third-party dues as figures.
Offroad isn't a Sunticon, and imo, the deco's of the Unite versions are much much better.
Motormaster and Dragstrip alone were enough for me to buy.
Again, just my opinion, but Hasbro's Dragstrip is not good... The yellow-orange is not great, and the red-violet is just too much... I think I may have been okay if it were true purple... But when you look at that color (which I would almost call "Raspberry) next to purple,
again, I just can't stand it. It almost looks like it's a mistake.

Anyone else agree that this set is better than Hasbro's offerings and worth the extra $$$?

Re: New Images of Transformers Unite Warriors Groove, Dragstrip, Slingshot and Wildrider (1694240)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 3rd, 2015 @ 11:34pm CDT

Sowndwave76 wrote:I think it's pretty funny that there are still so many "conversations" about scale...
And yeah at one point, back in 2007, I too was sucked into similar conversations.
Just figured by now that would be a buried horse.
Almost as funny as this forum member who seriously attacked me and others about how stupid it was to speculate/discuss Hasbro ever releasing deluxe-sized seekers since they had been at Botcon...
Boy, he showed us... We were all IDIOTS!!!!

Anyway, just wanted to voice my surprise that people haven't been more excited about the Unite Warriors Stunticons...
I know it's not new news.
However, most of those characters haven't been given solid, non-exclusive or non-third-party dues as figures.
Offroad isn't a Sunticon, and imo, the deco's of the Unite versions are much much better.
Motormaster and Dragstrip alone were enough for me to buy.
Again, just my opinion, but Hasbro's Dragstrip is not good... The yellow-orange is not great, and the red-violet is just too much... I think I may have been okay if it were true purple... But when you look at that color (which I would almost call "Raspberry) next to purple,
again, I just can't stand it. It almost looks like it's a mistake.

Anyone else agree that this set is better than Hasbro's offerings and worth the extra $$$?

They're different but not different enough for me to double dip

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