- new design head sculpt with replaceable "rage" face
- battle damaged visor
- new design laser cannon
- new design forearms
- new shoulder attachments for increased width and enhanced articulation
- bio card for Hercules
- A3 size poster
TFC Toys TF-007 Rage of Hercules Official Images
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Feb 19, 2012 at 1:12am CST
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Thats all I can really come up with right now...
I will say my FP Bruticus is now officially...
Comment by LiKwid
Feb 19, 2012
Thats all I can really come up with right now...I will say my FP Bruticus is now officially...
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Comment by DevastaTTor
Feb 19, 2012
Interesting, but I'm not going to get too excited about this until we see the price and the set in color.
I do wish TFC would have given us a redesigned head that was a bigger departure from the original. And the rage face make me think he needs more fiber.
I do wish TFC would have given us a redesigned head that was a bigger departure from the original. And the rage face make me think he needs more fiber.
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Comment by DMSL
Feb 19, 2012
They are listening to their customers which is awesome but i for one don't care for this set. I do like the gun though so i hope they will have it available seperately to buy.
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Comment by Solrac333
Feb 19, 2012
It's nice but I don't think I need it.
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Comment by megatronus
Feb 19, 2012
I'd love to see some in-between images, i.e. Hercules with the shoulder extensions but with the normal tread forearms. I wonder if it would look good that way. 
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Comment by Slick_Prime
Feb 19, 2012
This made me go out and impulse buy the entire Hercules set... 
There goes my tax return.
At least I got the YaHobby 15% discount.
There goes my tax return.
At least I got the YaHobby 15% discount.
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Comment by Blackstreak
Feb 19, 2012
This set isn't bad if you want a more traditional Devastator style Hercules. I kind of like Hercules as he is w/out the upgrade.
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Haha, you are simply not giving them enough credit. If you think for a second that these upgrades weren't planned out long before Herc was released, you are being naive. They aren't listening to their customers. They are just executing the plan. The "collector" mentality is so predictable.
TFC knew that they could put out the current version of Herc for that lofty price tag and all of the collectors out there would pay it. But while they would pay it, they'd have minor gripes about the head or the gun or so on. I'm sure that the plan all along would be to "crazydevy" their own product to drain even more money out of the collector....
....And the plan works to perfection. You all line up like lemmings to fork out even more cash. I gotta say, I get a little embarrassed reading these threads some times. Its like watching a bunch of junkies praising their dealer for giving them what they need, when the dealer really knows that he's only taking advantage of you because you are hooked and you'll keep coming back no matter what.
I have a special prize for the first person who can amass a total of $1000 put into their not-Devastator figure. A very special......slow clap.
Comment by joesaysso
Feb 19, 2012
rpetras wrote: It is also smart to put out many of the upgrades people have been asking for.
DMSL wrote:They are listening to their customers which is awesome but i for one don't care for this set. I do like the gun though so i hope they will have it available seperately to buy.
Haha, you are simply not giving them enough credit. If you think for a second that these upgrades weren't planned out long before Herc was released, you are being naive. They aren't listening to their customers. They are just executing the plan. The "collector" mentality is so predictable.
TFC knew that they could put out the current version of Herc for that lofty price tag and all of the collectors out there would pay it. But while they would pay it, they'd have minor gripes about the head or the gun or so on. I'm sure that the plan all along would be to "crazydevy" their own product to drain even more money out of the collector....
Slick_Prime wrote:This made me go out and impulse buy the entire Hercules set...
GetRightRobot wrote:I'm ashamed to admit that I will buy this. I don't care if it's another 100 bucks.
....And the plan works to perfection. You all line up like lemmings to fork out even more cash. I gotta say, I get a little embarrassed reading these threads some times. Its like watching a bunch of junkies praising their dealer for giving them what they need, when the dealer really knows that he's only taking advantage of you because you are hooked and you'll keep coming back no matter what.
I have a special prize for the first person who can amass a total of $1000 put into their not-Devastator figure. A very special......slow clap.
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Interesting conspiracy theory. Except for one thing: the QC issues
Think really carefully about that one, but don't break your head.
I do applaud what TFC is doing and has done so far. However, I simply view those upgrades not as a necessity, but more like a different choice that you have to pay more for to acquire: sleek vs. "messy". It does make my choice between MakeToys and TFC a bit harder though, as I like the "messy" look on Devastator.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Feb 19, 2012
joesaysso wrote:rpetras wrote: It is also smart to put out many of the upgrades people have been asking for.DMSL wrote:They are listening to their customers which is awesome but i for one don't care for this set. I do like the gun though so i hope they will have it available seperately to buy.
Haha, you are simply not giving them enough credit. If you think for a second that these upgrades weren't planned out long before Herc was released, you are being naive. They aren't listening to their customers. They are just executing the plan. The "collector" mentality is so predictable.
TFC knew that they could put out the current version of Herc for that lofty price tag and all of the collectors out there would pay it. But while they would pay it, they'd have minor gripes about the head or the gun or so on. I'm sure that the plan all along would be to "crazydevy" their own product to drain even more money out of the collector....Slick_Prime wrote:This made me go out and impulse buy the entire Hercules set...GetRightRobot wrote:I'm ashamed to admit that I will buy this. I don't care if it's another 100 bucks.
....And the plan works to perfection. You all line up like lemmings to fork out even more cash. I gotta say, I get a little embarrassed reading these threads some times. Its like watching a bunch of junkies praising their dealer for giving them what they need, when the dealer really knows that he's only taking advantage of you because you are hooked and you'll keep coming back no matter what.
I have a special prize for the first person who can amass a total of $1000 put into their not-Devastator figure. A very special......slow clap.
Interesting conspiracy theory. Except for one thing: the QC issues
Think really carefully about that one, but don't break your head.I do applaud what TFC is doing and has done so far. However, I simply view those upgrades not as a necessity, but more like a different choice that you have to pay more for to acquire: sleek vs. "messy". It does make my choice between MakeToys and TFC a bit harder though, as I like the "messy" look on Devastator.
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Comment by GetRightRobot
Feb 19, 2012
Ah...somebody sounds upset! 
Well Joe, it's like this: My money, my decision. Besides, who goes out and buys the Cadillac of Devastators and doesn't throw some D's on it? Necessary? Of course not, but non of this hobby is NECESSARY. 
Well Joe, it's like this: My money, my decision. Besides, who goes out and buys the Cadillac of Devastators and doesn't throw some D's on it? Necessary? Of course not, but non of this hobby is NECESSARY.
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Comment by Gauntlet101010
Feb 19, 2012
While I don't think they had a "master plan" of "tricking" anyone into buying this add on set, I do think they saw custom threads at TFW and copied some ideas from over there. I mean .... people have made these add ons using Shapeways and their own customising skills already over there. Except for a drill hand.
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Conspiracy theory? What are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here at all. Its called a business model. The point is to cash in as much profit as possible. Crazydevy set the precedence for the Devastator upgrade idea. All TFC did was build their own figure and then apply somebody else's idea to make more money off of it. Its really not that much of a stretch really. Certainly not enough to be a conspiracy. If you don't think this was TFC's plan all along then explain how pics of the prototypes are released so soon after the last of the figures shipped. Collector's have had their hands on the full Herc set for what, a few weeks? And upgrades are getting ready to roll out already. Seriously....as I said before, thats just naive.
Upset at what exactly? I didn't spend a dime on Hercules. High prices, QC issues, or expensive upgrades have no impact on me whatsoever. I have nothing to be upset about. If anything, you should be upset not me. Ebay is already full of these figures for cheaper than the $99 +shipping original price. If I really wanted it, I could probably get it cheaper than most here who preordered it simply because I waited. I don't really want it though so again, no real impact on me. Sure, its your money. And I didn't make any suggestions to you on how to spend it. I simply pointed out the "collector behavior" that I find both amusing and embarrassing at the same time.
Yeah exactly. And thats what TFC was thinking too. I don't know why my line of thinking is being called a conspiracy theory when you pretty much just summed it up. Spending upwards of $900 for the whole set is hard for people to handle. But in smaller doses, its easier to manage. One figure at time and then the upgrades and soon TFC has half on an entire paycheck. TFC hasn't gotten the purple mixing drum out there yet so don't be surprised if there is a second upgrade set coming later for you to throw your D's on.
Comment by joesaysso
Feb 19, 2012
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Interesting conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory? What are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here at all. Its called a business model. The point is to cash in as much profit as possible. Crazydevy set the precedence for the Devastator upgrade idea. All TFC did was build their own figure and then apply somebody else's idea to make more money off of it. Its really not that much of a stretch really. Certainly not enough to be a conspiracy. If you don't think this was TFC's plan all along then explain how pics of the prototypes are released so soon after the last of the figures shipped. Collector's have had their hands on the full Herc set for what, a few weeks? And upgrades are getting ready to roll out already. Seriously....as I said before, thats just naive.
GetRightRobot wrote:Ah...somebody sounds upset! Well Joe, it's like this: My money, my decision.
Upset at what exactly? I didn't spend a dime on Hercules. High prices, QC issues, or expensive upgrades have no impact on me whatsoever. I have nothing to be upset about. If anything, you should be upset not me. Ebay is already full of these figures for cheaper than the $99 +shipping original price. If I really wanted it, I could probably get it cheaper than most here who preordered it simply because I waited. I don't really want it though so again, no real impact on me. Sure, its your money. And I didn't make any suggestions to you on how to spend it. I simply pointed out the "collector behavior" that I find both amusing and embarrassing at the same time.
GetRightRobot wrote:Besides, who goes out and buys the Cadillac of Devastators and doesn't throw some D's on it? Necessary? Of course not, but non of this hobby is NECESSARY
Yeah exactly. And thats what TFC was thinking too. I don't know why my line of thinking is being called a conspiracy theory when you pretty much just summed it up. Spending upwards of $900 for the whole set is hard for people to handle. But in smaller doses, its easier to manage. One figure at time and then the upgrades and soon TFC has half on an entire paycheck. TFC hasn't gotten the purple mixing drum out there yet so don't be surprised if there is a second upgrade set coming later for you to throw your D's on.
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Comment by Gauntlet101010
Feb 19, 2012
The QC issues belie any big "plan" where TFC is taking advantage of collector mentality. At some point they probably saw the list of things people wanted out of their Devestator (and the stuff made at TFW) and just said "fine, let's go and do that". The entire design of Herc goes against the idea that they planned these add-ons from the start. Unline everything else, these add-ons don't seem to "integrate" anywhere on Herc in even a marginal respect, like the hands. As-is Herc is a 100% complete figure.
But it's not like they're the first company to make add-ons for their own figure. That honor goes to Fansprojects, I believe, where they made missiles and a gun for City Commander well after the initial release of their trailer.
But it's not like they're the first company to make add-ons for their own figure. That honor goes to Fansprojects, I believe, where they made missiles and a gun for City Commander well after the initial release of their trailer.
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Comment by Rated X
Feb 19, 2012
Ya know what ruins the new head ???
Why does it need to be so square like the old one ??? shave off the top corners to make the proper shape. Then maybe ill pass on the Crazydevy.
Why does it need to be so square like the old one ??? shave off the top corners to make the proper shape. Then maybe ill pass on the Crazydevy.
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Too bad, he is freaking awesome!
Cadillac does not make aftermarket rims.
But me upset? AHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA! With this?
You have to be kidding!
Comment by GetRightRobot
Feb 19, 2012
joesaysso wrote:Upset at what exactly? I didn't spend a dime on Hercules.
Too bad, he is freaking awesome!
GetRightRobot wrote:Besides, who goes out and buys the Cadillac of Devastators and doesn't throw some D's on it? Necessary? Of course not, but non of this hobby is NECESSARY
joesaysso wrote:Yeah exactly. And thats what TFC was thinking too. ...don't be surprised if there is a second upgrade set coming later for you to throw your D's on.
Cadillac does not make aftermarket rims.
But me upset? AHAHAHHAHAHAAAAA! With this?
You have to be kidding!
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Joe - the issue people are taking with your comments is you sound smug and condescending, and imply that we're all idiots. Is it naive to think TFC wasn't thinking about this relatively early on? Perhaps. I personally think the argument that the QC issues preclude the possibility of this kit being planned isn't an effective one, because those were unexpected problems post-production. True, it doesn't mean TFC wasn't planning on releasing a kit like this, especially knowing that this would help TFC steal MakeToys' market share. However, your "embarassment" at the actions of your fellow fans and collectors really rubs a lot of us the wrong way.
Comment by megatronus
Feb 19, 2012
joesaysso wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Interesting conspiracy theory.
Conspiracy theory? What are you talking about? There's no conspiracy here at all. Its called a business model... as I said before, thats just naive.GetRightRobot wrote:Ah...somebody sounds upset! Well Joe, it's like this: My money, my decision.
Upset at what exactly? I didn't spend a dime on Hercules. High prices, QC issues, or expensive upgrades have no impact on me whatsoever. I have nothing to be upset about. If anything, you should be upset not me... Sure, its your money. And I didn't make any suggestions to you on how to spend it. I simply pointed out the "collector behavior" that I find both amusing and embarrassing at the same time.GetRightRobot wrote:Besides, who goes out and buys the Cadillac of Devastators and doesn't throw some D's on it? Necessary? Of course not, but non of this hobby is NECESSARY
Yeah exactly. And thats what TFC was thinking too. I don't know why my line of thinking is being called a conspiracy theory when you pretty much just summed it up... TFC hasn't gotten the purple mixing drum out there yet so don't be surprised if there is a second upgrade set coming later for you to throw your D's on.
Joe - the issue people are taking with your comments is you sound smug and condescending, and imply that we're all idiots. Is it naive to think TFC wasn't thinking about this relatively early on? Perhaps. I personally think the argument that the QC issues preclude the possibility of this kit being planned isn't an effective one, because those were unexpected problems post-production. True, it doesn't mean TFC wasn't planning on releasing a kit like this, especially knowing that this would help TFC steal MakeToys' market share. However, your "embarassment" at the actions of your fellow fans and collectors really rubs a lot of us the wrong way.
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Comment by GetRightRobot
Feb 19, 2012
Here's thought for everyone. If it was a $20 figure in every store in the US, I'm guessing there would be less.... negativity. I realize it's expensive. But I can afford it, and it is awesome. I mean, compared to the turd on the left side of this picture, atleast x6 better = x6 more expensive. The math adds up. What upgrade could possibly save the ROTF Devy? Other than gasoline and a match?
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Comment by El Duque
Feb 19, 2012
Don't like, don't buy. Hercules is perfectly fine as he is. It's not like he needs these to be complete. He has a gun, he has forearms, he has a head. However, this is nice for those who want a more G1 and less IDW appearance.
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True that GetRightRobot - if you can afford it, chances are you're enjoying it. I know I am! Also, kudos on the Custom Dinobots. They rocked!
Fun thread topic: Think of creative ways to 'Devastate' ROTF Devastator!
My ideas include:
1. Sledgehammer (or 'Office Space' style destruction)
2. Trash Compacter (aka Shredder's death)
3. Drop from the top of a tall mountain
Comment by megatronus
Feb 19, 2012
GetRightRobot wrote:Here's thought for everyone. If it was a $20 figure in every store in the US, I'm guessing there would be less.... negativity. I realize it's expensive. But I can afford it, and it is awesome. I mean, compared to the turd on the left side of this picture, atleast x6 better = x6 more expensive. The math adds up. What upgrade could possibly save the ROTF Devy? Other than gasoline and a match?
True that GetRightRobot - if you can afford it, chances are you're enjoying it. I know I am! Also, kudos on the Custom Dinobots. They rocked!
Fun thread topic: Think of creative ways to 'Devastate' ROTF Devastator!
My ideas include:
1. Sledgehammer (or 'Office Space' style destruction)
2. Trash Compacter (aka Shredder's death)
3. Drop from the top of a tall mountain
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Didn't CrazyDevy do a wrecking ball set for it? That.
On the topic at hand, I didn't post this when this news first broke because I didn't want to be "that asshøle" but this completely torpedoes the "total integration" this they were claiming.
I am so excited to have both G1 and G2 Devastators from Maketoys for about the same price as a "complete" Hercules! I am still, that "that asshøle"!
Comment by zodconvoy
Feb 19, 2012
GetRightRobot wrote:What upgrade could possibly save the ROTF Devy? Other than gasoline and a match?
Didn't CrazyDevy do a wrecking ball set for it? That.
On the topic at hand, I didn't post this when this news first broke because I didn't want to be "that asshøle" but this completely torpedoes the "total integration" this they were claiming.
I am so excited to have both G1 and G2 Devastators from Maketoys for about the same price as a "complete" Hercules! I am still, that "that asshøle"!
