Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Figures Sighted at Best Buy with Pre-Orders on Best Buy Website

Stopped by local Best Buy here in Central New York state and they had nothing. Maybe in stock later this week.

I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I mean, it's not like this figure being as tall as Voyager Classics/etc. Optimus is particularly indicative of size-class shrinkage or anything, considering the trailer is part of the mass and cost that makes it a Leader, and the figure itself is as tall as the Voyager Optimus we got in Siege, which means that Voyager is still as tall as a Voyager from 2006. And how much did the Fansproject trailer cost on release?

Randomhero wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I mean, it's not like this figure being as tall as Voyager Classics/etc. Optimus is particularly indicative of size-class shrinkage or anything, considering the trailer is part of the mass and cost that makes it a Leader, and the figure itself is as tall as the Voyager Optimus we got in Siege, which means that Voyager is still as tall as a Voyager from 2006. And how much did the Fansproject trailer cost on release?

$80-$100 for their trailer.

ER Optimus has quite a lot going on in his transformation. A good chuck of his leader cost goes into his engineering, he’s more complex than his siege predecessor. It’s not about height. I’d rather have what we’re getting than the hallow, bare minimum articulated leaders we used to get.

I agree! Not to mention "out-of-scale" Leader Class figures. Shockwave is the only one that I feel like we didn't get our bang for the buck, which I think is evident by how this figure shelf warms everywhere.

And thanks to this news story, I grabbed Optimus Prime at the Best Buy in Schaumburg, IL literally as the guy brought it to the aisle. It was like he knew I was coming and brought it out for me. Easiest toy hunting in a LONG time.

I brought up in the other thread that that pre-Earth version of Prime should have been in Siege. It won't be in Earthrise, because it's a Cybertronian form, but it would have been nice to finally see it, even as an exclusive. But maybe it's just too obscure, it only appeared in 1 issue and for only a few panels.

I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

I am so glad the trailer came bare bones, so I could add all that I wanted to add to it myself. It maybe a little on the short side, but I'd rather see long trailers on the movie verse toys. This is ok by my standards. Amazing toy.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update

He doesn't need an update, he just needs a competent reissue. He's already designed to a good standard, and an update would be severely watered-down unless it was Commander-class (and even then it might have issues).

Lack of thigh swivels aside I'd agree, he has aged very gracefully. Poor Ultra Magnus, however...

The RID (2001) molds that need updates are the Autobot Brothers, since the original molds are kaput. Of course, they'd probably have to be Voyagers or a boxset to be on par with or surpass the originals.

I honestly don't think you could update the Car Brothers without losing what made them cool, given they were essentially Beast Wars toys that turned into cars. And given their poseability rivals modern figures, I don't think a straight update would do them justice. Seeing them re-imagined into the current design aesthetic would be cool, admittedly, but at the same time I'd rather just get the originals.

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.

Let's just hope that actually comes out, it's been a while.

They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Eh, the TR Laser Prime wasn't great, the "jet mode" was weak (even for the Octane version), it had horrible stickers and overall didn't quite capture the essence of the original figure. Plus it was a Headmaster, which may or may not bother some. Ironically, I actually feel the old RTS figure did a better job as an update (aside from being too small).

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.

You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.