Noticed there was no TAAO issue in the March solicitations; it's not cancelled, is it? D:
Nope. We’re just taking a month off for Sara to catch up. Unlike our characters (or like them, depending on how you define it) she is not a machine.
Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
Posted by Va'al
Dec 29, 2016 at 3:43am CST
59,617 views
View Discussion
Sign in
or
Join
to reply
More Bots. More News. More Awesome.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
That's fair. Considering we have such obscure characters as Greenlight, Lancer, Moonracer and the Devisen twins in this story, I wouldn't put it past Scott to slip Slammer into one of the issues. Though given that TAAO generally hews close to 'bots classic color schemes and Slammer's color scheme has always been white-on-white, and this bot's is predominantly gray.....eh, if it is Slammer, maybe Scott, Pitre-DuRocher and LaFuente are taking creative liberties with him, since he's never appeared in robot form before.
Comment by Bounti76
Dec 29, 2016
Dr Va'al wrote:Bounti76 wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:Nik Hero wrote:They should have clearly labeled this as part of Titans Return.
It is, in the blurb/synopsis of last issue. The fact that it's not happening before Revolution is entirely IDW's scheduling fault. They're.. not very good at keeping schedules to schedule.
Va'al, I checked out the database like you suggested, and I was surprised to see Slammer listed among the characters. I've studied every panel and can't see Slammer anywhere, unless he's got a robot mode that has hithertofore been unseen in the last 30 years.
ScottyP suggests that one of the guards - the one you see shouting at people, I believe - is in fact slammer, mostly due to the presence of Metroplex in the story. I cannot confirm or deny either way, but it's worth considering as an option!
That's fair. Considering we have such obscure characters as Greenlight, Lancer, Moonracer and the Devisen twins in this story, I wouldn't put it past Scott to slip Slammer into one of the issues. Though given that TAAO generally hews close to 'bots classic color schemes and Slammer's color scheme has always been white-on-white, and this bot's is predominantly gray.....eh, if it is Slammer, maybe Scott, Pitre-DuRocher and LaFuente are taking creative liberties with him, since he's never appeared in robot form before.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Randomhero
Dec 29, 2016
Like I said weeks ago, probably just taking the month off. If it was canceled IDW would announce it.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
I did say educated guess and you were right to say that Slammer never had a robot mode. However, in the spoopy world of third party Transformers, the Iron Factory Generations Metroplex upgrade set came with a Slammer that has a bot mode that's at least a little like the one drawn in the book:
On another note, very glad to see that this is continuing on in April, and also glad they just skipped March instead of throwing out a solicitation that might not make it in.
Comment by ScottyP
Dec 29, 2016
It's a case of me having fun with it for one, but also making the most educated guess that I can. If it comes out 'officially' that it's just a generic 'bot, I'll take it out of there prontoBounti76 wrote:That's fair. Considering we have such obscure characters as Greenlight, Lancer, Moonracer and the Devisen twins in this story, I wouldn't put it past Scott to slip Slammer into one of the issues. Though given that TAAO generally hews close to 'bots classic color schemes and Slammer's color scheme has always been white-on-white, and this bot's is predominantly gray.....eh, if it is Slammer, maybe Scott, Pitre-DuRocher and LaFuente are taking creative liberties with him, since he's never appeared in robot form before.
I did say educated guess and you were right to say that Slammer never had a robot mode. However, in the spoopy world of third party Transformers, the Iron Factory Generations Metroplex upgrade set came with a Slammer that has a bot mode that's at least a little like the one drawn in the book:
On another note, very glad to see that this is continuing on in April, and also glad they just skipped March instead of throwing out a solicitation that might not make it in.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Randomhero
Dec 29, 2016
I'm less concerned about skipping a month and once again we have ANOTHER artist that can't keep up. Guess that's what happens when you pull people from tumblr and deviantart. Be great if we could see the return of some artist who actually have experience in drawing monthly comics.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Va'al
Dec 29, 2016
Yeah it's a shame that we're still using humans that have lives and the such. How dare they.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Nothing stopped Mark bagley frrom drawing 111 issues of ultimate Spider man in the span of 7 years. That's almost 2 issues a month continuiously through out his whole time on the book. Same with Charlie adlard on walking dead for 13 years. WD got delayed a couple times but never a point of slipping an actual solicitation. I'm just saying if you can't meet the monthly deadline then don't commit to it. That's why Sarah stone isn't drawing for Transformers anymore, she did great work but couldn't do the monthly deadline and drawing comics isn't a hobby it's a job.when you can't do it, a new artist comes in that can do it because when you miss a month, sales get smaller. I know, I've actually drawn comics and just had to turn down a story in a self published this month because my day job is in the way. I didn't tell the creator "gimme a few months I can do it" I said "I thought I could but I can't, if you want I can do a story for the next one"
Honestly I'd rather see some verterans on this book like dan khanna, Robbie musso or Emiliano Santalucia because those are artist that can draw good transformers comics on timely basis.
Comment by Randomhero
Dec 29, 2016
Dr Va'al wrote:Yeah it's a shame that we're still using humans that have lives and the such. How dare they.
Nothing stopped Mark bagley frrom drawing 111 issues of ultimate Spider man in the span of 7 years. That's almost 2 issues a month continuiously through out his whole time on the book. Same with Charlie adlard on walking dead for 13 years. WD got delayed a couple times but never a point of slipping an actual solicitation. I'm just saying if you can't meet the monthly deadline then don't commit to it. That's why Sarah stone isn't drawing for Transformers anymore, she did great work but couldn't do the monthly deadline and drawing comics isn't a hobby it's a job.when you can't do it, a new artist comes in that can do it because when you miss a month, sales get smaller. I know, I've actually drawn comics and just had to turn down a story in a self published this month because my day job is in the way. I didn't tell the creator "gimme a few months I can do it" I said "I thought I could but I can't, if you want I can do a story for the next one"
Honestly I'd rather see some verterans on this book like dan khanna, Robbie musso or Emiliano Santalucia because those are artist that can draw good transformers comics on timely basis.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
I'd rather we gave creators a chance to continue their own work, rather than drive them to burnouts and having to turn down work. I'm sure you also know that artists are pretty much all work for hire at IDW, and that this is not their only job.
We (readers and editors) gave Nick Roche a chance with Sins of the Wreckers. Happy to do the same for Sara Pitre Durocher. And much happier IDW did this than their usual -whoops, let's just publish two weeks late because the writers are too slow to get their work over to the artists.
EDIT: Image have been doing the couple of months hiatus for a while now, and none of their sales have been affected. It's a model I really do quite like: one monthly issue for five months, one month is the TPB, one month break, repeat.
Comment by Va'al
Dec 29, 2016
Randomhero wrote:Dr Va'al wrote:Yeah it's a shame that we're still using humans that have lives and the such. How dare they.
Honestly I'd rather see some verterans on this book like dan khanna, Robbie musso or Emiliano Santalucia because those are artist that can draw good transformers comics on timely basis.
I'd rather we gave creators a chance to continue their own work, rather than drive them to burnouts and having to turn down work. I'm sure you also know that artists are pretty much all work for hire at IDW, and that this is not their only job.
We (readers and editors) gave Nick Roche a chance with Sins of the Wreckers. Happy to do the same for Sara Pitre Durocher. And much happier IDW did this than their usual -whoops, let's just publish two weeks late because the writers are too slow to get their work over to the artists.
EDIT: Image have been doing the couple of months hiatus for a while now, and none of their sales have been affected. It's a model I really do quite like: one monthly issue for five months, one month is the TPB, one month break, repeat.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Rael
Dec 29, 2016
Between the idea that a TF packaging art director was picked up by IDW because of social media (and iirc, Sarah Stone wasn't either), the comparison with select artists who weren't drawing a robot for every character, and the comparisons with (great) artists who've never done more than 6 TF issues back-to-back on a given run, I don't know where to start. Misplaced assumptions abound.
Count me as another glad they're going this route with the schedule as opposed to sliding releases back a week several times in a row to even it out. Many of the fill-in artists IDW brings in are fantastic, but there's always something to be said for keeping the ongoing artist in the chair when it means consistent trades and minimized continuity oversights in designs and details.
Count me as another glad they're going this route with the schedule as opposed to sliding releases back a week several times in a row to even it out. Many of the fill-in artists IDW brings in are fantastic, but there's always something to be said for keeping the ongoing artist in the chair when it means consistent trades and minimized continuity oversights in designs and details.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Randomhero
Dec 29, 2016
personally Id rather have consistency in release dates. im fine giving people a shot but if they cant keep up than they cant keep up. Its one of my biggest worries with Kei Zama, got total faith, shes great artist but this is her first go and we have now had one artist stop because she couldnt do it and another now that apprently needs a break. when that happens then maybe TAAO needs to go to a revolving art team like Lost Light. I know some people are being very harsh at Jack Lawrence not because of his art but because hes not Milne while Milne even admitting that all the delays the past 5 years on MTMTE were his fault. yeah he had an injury and i respect and understand that but he has admitted that couldnt keep up sometimes and a filler artist came in.
Biggest reason i miss the Spotlights. they were an easy way to get new artists and see if they can handle it
Biggest reason i miss the Spotlights. they were an easy way to get new artists and see if they can handle it
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Va'al
Dec 29, 2016
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Sunstar
Dec 29, 2016
I WAS gonna get the comic today but the car had a problem and we had to stop at the service station.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Go-Faster-Wings
Dec 29, 2016
You guys HAVE seen her art, right? It's fantastic. I'm perfectly happy waiting an extra month for the next issue if it means she can take a breather and get caught up. This can only mean good things for the book; the art will be even better (than its already great) if the artist gets some breathing room.
Plus, as other people pointed out, this isn't her only job. Last I checked she was still an art director at a video game company or something. I think she deserves a break.
Plus, as other people pointed out, this isn't her only job. Last I checked she was still an art director at a video game company or something. I think she deserves a break.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Kurona
Dec 29, 2016
Yeah; one month without an issue isn't even that bad either. It just means we miss one month - I'm sad to go without TAAO for that month but I won't be waiting long, and if it means both quality and consistency in the art... I'm all for it. Much better than rushing her or another artist along so that it'll look terrible on reflection. Patience is a virtue
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
The thing is, claiming from this one instance that Sara Pitre-Durocher generally "can't keep up" is still quite an assumption. Given how far ahead this news comes, it seems incredibly likely this was done proactively (perhaps as a kindness to Sara after several months of continuous work on ex-RID, TAAO, and more and to Mairghread with the birth of her baby) instead of reactively due to a plea for more time.
With Kei being such a beast, as long as her health holds out I've got no concerns.
I don't really see how a Spotlight oneshot provides insight on how someone will handle months upon months of work back to back (especially if a oneshot and an issue for Marvel apparently couldn't do the same for Sara and Kei).
Regardless, it's pretty clear we've got a difference in priorities here, since I'd always gladly wait for the detailed, time-intensive art we see from Milne, Coller, etc. over letting them bench warm because they can't keep pace with people with looser styles.
Comment by Rael
Dec 29, 2016
Randomhero wrote:personally Id rather have consistency in release dates. im fine giving people a shot but if they cant keep up than they cant keep up. Its one of my biggest worries with Kei Zama, got total faith, shes great artist but this is her first go and we have now had one artist stop because she couldnt do it and another now that apprently needs a break. when that happens then maybe TAAO needs to go to a revolving art team like Lost Light. I know some people are being very harsh at Jack Lawrence not because of his art but because hes not Milne while Milne even admitting that all the delays the past 5 years on MTMTE were his fault. yeah he had an injury and i respect and understand that but he has admitted that couldnt keep up sometimes and a filler artist came in.
Biggest reason i miss the Spotlights. they were an easy way to get new artists and see if they can handle it
The thing is, claiming from this one instance that Sara Pitre-Durocher generally "can't keep up" is still quite an assumption. Given how far ahead this news comes, it seems incredibly likely this was done proactively (perhaps as a kindness to Sara after several months of continuous work on ex-RID, TAAO, and more and to Mairghread with the birth of her baby) instead of reactively due to a plea for more time.
With Kei being such a beast, as long as her health holds out I've got no concerns.
I don't really see how a Spotlight oneshot provides insight on how someone will handle months upon months of work back to back (especially if a oneshot and an issue for Marvel apparently couldn't do the same for Sara and Kei).
Regardless, it's pretty clear we've got a difference in priorities here, since I'd always gladly wait for the detailed, time-intensive art we see from Milne, Coller, etc. over letting them bench warm because they can't keep pace with people with looser styles.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by ScottyP
Dec 29, 2016
She's laughing at you, btw.Randomhero wrote:Hateful garbage about an artist
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
I am amused.
Comment by Sunstar
Dec 29, 2016
ScottyP wrote:She's laughing at you, btw.Randomhero wrote:Hateful garbage about an artist
I am amused.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Well it's nice to see she reads threads. Means she not making terrible slash/fic art of tailgate and Cyclonus because that's that relationship in a nutshell.
Comment by Randomhero
Dec 30, 2016
Sunstar wrote:ScottyP wrote:She's laughing at you, btw.Randomhero wrote:Hateful garbage about an artist
I am amused.
Well it's nice to see she reads threads. Means she not making terrible slash/fic art of tailgate and Cyclonus because that's that relationship in a nutshell.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Idk man, some accomplished multitaskers can manage forum browsing and quality ship doodles at the same time—you never know.
Comment by Rael
Dec 30, 2016
Randomhero wrote:Sunstar wrote:ScottyP wrote:She's laughing at you, btw.Randomhero wrote:Hateful garbage about an artist
I am amused.
Well it's nice to see she reads threads. Means she not making terrible slash/fic art of tailgate and Cyclonus because that's that relationship in a nutshell.
Idk man, some accomplished multitaskers can manage forum browsing and quality ship doodles at the same time—you never know.
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Jan 5, 2017
I'm liking the series, but this issue highlights another problem I've had consistently with Scott's work: it feels rushed to me, like things are moving too fast and have a little too much "open space".
That would be my one complaint. The first arc felt like it should have been 5 issues, not 4, and it feels the same here. I wish it was a teensy bit paced slower and a little more "dense"
That would be my one complaint. The first arc felt like it should have been 5 issues, not 4, and it feels the same here. I wish it was a teensy bit paced slower and a little more "dense"
Re: Update on Missing IDW Transformers: Till All Are One March 2017 Issue
(view post)
Comment by Va'al
Jan 16, 2017
In some additional comics news this new week, we have an early look at two variant covers for the upcoming issue #7 of IDW's Transformers: Till All Are One, via Previews World. The art shows Windblade confronting a Titan brain - if you've been following the series, you may have ideas about whose - in Joana Lafuente's incentive that mirrors the Optimus Prime #3 and Lost Light #2 ones seen previously, and a mugshot of convict Chromia in the Priscilla Tramontano subscription variant. Check them both out below!
