Video Review for Masterpiece MP-33 Inferno

Very nice looking figure! Yay, ladder magic!

Dear mr bank manager, I'd like to apply for a loan.

How much?

Lots.

For what?

transformers

Cool pic by Alfes2010 --

Great looking toy, its very well designed.

finally received mine and yep, think it's my fave mp so far. My previous top was magnus, but his but flap and lack of transforming cab are 2 negatives whereas so far the only thing i have a problem with is that his faces fly out of the packaging extremely easily. Also have a paint defect but not major. The fact I can opt out of chrome made me very happy. I wish that whoever designed this does a decepticon in the near future as the transformation is awesome and there aren't any things like ironhide's hips where you say to yourself "this could've been done better".

frogbat wrote:finally received mine and yep, think it's my fave mp so far. My previous top was magnus, but his but flap and lack of transforming cab are 2 negatives whereas so far the only thing i have a problem with is that his faces fly out of the packaging extremely easily. Also have a paint defect but not major. The fact I can opt out of chrome made me very happy. I wish that whoever designed this does a decepticon in the near future as the transformation is awesome and there aren't any things like ironhide's hips where you say to yourself "this could've been done better".

I agree. Just opened mine and had to come on to share a few quick thoughts. While I still think the legs are in need of some much needed line/panel details to make it look a little less cartoony (ala Masterpiece Grapple), I can't express enough how impressed I am by this toy. Every now and then, there's an ingenious new Transformers figure that just blows me away. Masterpiece Wheeljack comes to mind, Masterpiece Prowl, Transformers Prime RID Vehicon (love the accordion style transformation), Transformers Prime First Edition Cliffjumper, and I'm sure there are a few others but those immediately jump out at me as some of my favorites from the past 5 years.

Inferno is now one of those. Not only is there "ladder magic" happening here, part of the "ladder magic" happens extremely early as in the first step or two of his transformation. There are several really cool things going on with him to achieve a realistic vehicle mode and his beautiful robot mode. While the shoulders/upper arms have a very unique transformation going on (once I figure out how to do them), I would advise caution with this part of his transformation as I foresee broken arms on future loose samples of Masterpiece Inferno and Grapple. Still a very clever transformation, as are the various panels on his legs and cab, the hoses repositioning lower in robot mode, etc. He's also very large. I don't have Ironhide out at the moment but I'm assuming he's as tall if not taller than Ironhide.

Masterpiece MP-33 Inferno is a great, great, great figure. I haven't been this excited about a Masterpiece figure since Wheeljack or Prowl, so it's great to see them do something that really amazes me once again, enough so that I have to come on here to share my excitement.

David Copperfield would be impressed.

Seibertron wrote:Every now and then, there's an ingenious new Transformers figure that just blows me away. Masterpiece Wheeljack comes to mind, Masterpiece Prowl, Transformers Prime RID Vehicon (love the accordion style transformation), Transformers Prime First Edition Cliffjumper, and I'm sure there are a few others but those immediately jump out at me as some of my favorites from the past 5 years.

Now I see why you don't mind me writing those lists, we have the same taste in TF toys

Also, would you mind if I quote you for an upcoming list on the best Fire Truck Transformers?

That's a glowing review. Might have to scrap the money together for Grapple, since I have Hellfire.

Still waiting on mine. Hopefully next week.

Just received my Inferno yesterday from Amiami. Still in his awesome firetruck mode and haven't gone to transforming him yet. Awesome truck! Did I say awesome again?
Been doing some fantasy search and rescue with anime Alert (are FDs really that rich to afford a Countach for a Fire Chief first responder?)

Kind of a downer with the more anime-sh approach with the lack of details comparing the original G1 fig but hey......there are some acceptable compromises.

Next target will be Prowl and the other Mazda guys.


One thing I noticed from previous posts, and I mean it with no malice but it seems, first impressions (i.e. product reveals, scoop images of protos, screen caps, etc) tend to always result to the opposite. Which has to my recall always proven true.

WJ was initially labeled as not so Masterpiece level yet the overall consensus is that this is another home run (which I wholeheartedly agree not to mention when you add those official sponsorship decals by OceanDesigns on him and Exhaust and you'll never want to transform them to robot mode). Same with UM and even IH/Ratchet (chrome issues with the latter former notwithstanding).

So it is good to keep an open mind with these and other toylines of the franchise.

P.S. Too bad with Tracks. Way too ambitious that Takara tried to cram too much in such a wee body.

fenrir72 wrote:Next target will be Prowl and the other Mazda guys.

Mazda guys??? Datsun. Nissan is acceptable. But Mazda?? Can't let it slide, man.

sol magnus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Next target will be Prowl and the other Mazda guys.

Mazda guys??? Datsun. Nissan is acceptable. But Mazda?? Can't let it slide, man.

Inferno arrived for me today, been waiting patiently so I could experience the ladder magic.

Not disappointed one bit. His transformation, for lack of a better term, would best be described as "intricate". It's not difficult, there's just lots of little things you could easily miss. Like shifting the flares on the wheel well, not locking the wheels into place in robot mode. Little things that could easily be overlooked.

I swapped out the chrome parts for the white parts, primarily because it looks better, but a smaller reason is the problems others have reported with Ironhides chrome.

Many of have spoken about the ladder, and it truly is brilliant. Multiple points to fold, more so than Alternator Grimlocks hips! The difference is, you can't go wrong with the folding.

The accessories ... so many accessories! I had no idea what the third grill was for until I looked at the instructions. For holding onto Red Alert? sheesh Takara, how much attention to detail do you need to go to?

Overall though, fantastic figure. BUT ... Ironhide still pips him for this years MP figure.

frogbat wrote:finally received mine and yep, think it's my fave mp so far. My previous top was magnus, but his but flap and lack of transforming cab are 2 negatives whereas so far the only thing i have a problem with is that his faces fly out of the packaging extremely easily. Also have a paint defect but not major. The fact I can opt out of chrome made me very happy. I wish that whoever designed this does a decepticon in the near future as the transformation is awesome and there aren't any things like ironhide's hips where you say to yourself "this could've been done better".

Just a question for those in the know. Does Inferno and Ironhide have the same engineers/designers?

Burn wrote:Not disappointed one bit. His transformation, for lack of a better term, would best be described as "intricate". It's not difficult, there's just lots of little things you could easily miss. Like shifting the flares on the wheel well, not locking the wheels into place in robot mode. Little things that could easily be overlooked.

I swapped out the chrome parts for the white parts, primarily because it looks better, but a smaller reason is the problems others have reported with Ironhides chrome.

Many of have spoken about the ladder, and it truly is brilliant. Multiple points to fold, more so than Alternator Grimlocks hips! The difference is, you can't go wrong with the folding.

The accessories ... so many accessories! I had no idea what the third grill was for until I looked at the instructions. For holding onto Red Alert? sheesh Takara, how much attention to detail do you need to go to?

After a second transformation of this guy, these 4 points, to me, are really the most relevant to the enjoyment of the figure.
All individually interesting while adding to an allover feeling of proper execution.

triKlops wrote:After a second transformation of this guy, these 4 points, to me, are really the most relevant to the enjoyment of the figure.
All individually interesting while adding to an allover feeling of proper execution.

And they do it flawlessly! Brilliant piece of engineering.

fenrir72 wrote:

frogbat wrote:finally received mine and yep, think it's my fave mp so far. My previous top was magnus, but his but flap and lack of transforming cab are 2 negatives whereas so far the only thing i have a problem with is that his faces fly out of the packaging extremely easily. Also have a paint defect but not major. The fact I can opt out of chrome made me very happy. I wish that whoever designed this does a decepticon in the near future as the transformation is awesome and there aren't any things like ironhide's hips where you say to yourself "this could've been done better".

Just a question for those in the know. Does Inferno and Ironhide have the same engineers/designers?

Ironhide was done by Hironori Kobayashi, who seems to be the current main designer after Shogo Hasui. Inferno was probably done by him, or both as they tend to lend eachother a hand like with MP-22 Ultra Magnus.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

frogbat wrote:finally received mine and yep, think it's my fave mp so far. My previous top was magnus, but his but flap and lack of transforming cab are 2 negatives whereas so far the only thing i have a problem with is that his faces fly out of the packaging extremely easily. Also have a paint defect but not major. The fact I can opt out of chrome made me very happy. I wish that whoever designed this does a decepticon in the near future as the transformation is awesome and there aren't any things like ironhide's hips where you say to yourself "this could've been done better".

Just a question for those in the know. Does Inferno and Ironhide have the same engineers/designers?

Ironhide was done by Hironori Kobayashi, who seems to be the current main designer after Shogo Hasui. Inferno was probably done by him, or both as they tend to lend eachother a hand like with MP-22 Ultra Magnus.

Somehow not surprised by your answer. The engineer's style really shows.

Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

It's the ladder magic, man.

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

For some reason Amazon.co.jp wont ship that one specific MP outside of Japan. I wonder why that could be? And if you're wondering, yes, they will ship Megatron.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

For some reason Amazon.co.jp wont ship that one specific MP outside of Japan. I wonder why that could be? And if you're wondering, yes, they will ship Megatron.

Emerje

I have heard there is a cyclical ordering setup on these.
Prime, which allows for US shipping, phases in and out depending on supplier info.
Don't know how particular this is to each MP announcement but worth taking note of.

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

Sorry, but I don't read Japanese. That won't help much, but thanks.

(I'm also too tech stupid to know how to translate stuff. )

Ironhidensh wrote:

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

Sorry, but I don't read Japanese. That won't help much, but thanks.

(I'm also too tech stupid to know how to translate stuff. )

No problem but there is an English button on the site.
Directly below the bottom right of the search bar.
1 button click and 90% of the data on the site is translated.
Good Luck!

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

Sorry, but I don't read Japanese. That won't help much, but thanks.

(I'm also too tech stupid to know how to translate stuff. )

No problem but there is an English button on the site.
Directly below the bottom right of the search bar.
1 button click and 90% of the data on the site is translated.
Good Luck!

I found the button, but after clicking it, the red text under the green "In Stock" text became this:

Sorry, we can't deliver this item to your area.

Sabrblade wrote:

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

triKlops wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Looks like this guy is pretty popular. Any site with decent prices is sold out.

Keep an eye on this link
http://amzn.asia/4tDSGrm

Sorry, but I don't read Japanese. That won't help much, but thanks.

(I'm also too tech stupid to know how to translate stuff. )

No problem but there is an English button on the site.
Directly below the bottom right of the search bar.
1 button click and 90% of the data on the site is translated.
Good Luck!

I found the button, but after clicking it, the red text under the green "In Stock" text became this:

Sorry, we can't deliver this item to your area.

Correct but only temporary.
Prime items, specifically the MPs we are looking at, cycle in and out of availability to the US.
There is an internal calendar that controls this, however i have not figured the exact thing that triggers the switch from one to another.

The easiest thing to do is, make a Wish List for your account and throw the items in there.
You can check it regularly to see when an item has become available to the US and then make your decision based on personal thing and circumstances.
For example, MP Megs is available for US preorder but MP Artfire is not.
So I submitted my order for Megs and and left Artfire in my list for future review.
As soon as the shipping window opens up, I make the purchase/ preorder , and am good from there.

It really is that easy guys; just a little patience and you can have the items you are looking for for a fair price and pretty fast regular shipping.
Good luck to all and I hope this helps to clarify.

triKlops wrote:Correct but only temporary.
Prime items, specifically the MPs we are looking at, cycle in and out of availability to the US.
There is an internal calendar that controls this, however i have not figured the exact thing that triggers the switch from one to another.

Does it matter if one has Amazon Prime or not?

Sabrblade wrote:

triKlops wrote:Correct but only temporary.
Prime items, specifically the MPs we are looking at, cycle in and out of availability to the US.
There is an internal calendar that controls this, however i have not figured the exact thing that triggers the switch from one to another.

Does it matter if one has Amazon Prime or not?

No it doesn't, just like US Amazon.
It just means you get the Amazon direct order for the item, shipping from their warehouse.
And since the prices for the MPs are high, there is no minimum to worry about, just like how US Prime has a 25/ 35 minimum.

I just ordered a couple of Figure King issues, the recent ones that had the Diaclone spreads, for 1008 yen each through them.
Because it was a small order, my shipping was higher than the normalized Prime because my total was not that much.
However with that minor increase, the mags were cheaper with shipping, than eBay or other JP fansites can offer
But MPs are well above any minimum so it just shoots through the order process at a fair shipping price; depending upon accurate currency fluctuations.

So late already as just found the time to transform the Fire truck.

First, compared to the images of the 3rd party versions, well on the extra molding details on the legs, hands down, based on the images, on a scale of 1 to 5, I'd give the 3rd party a 5.0 compared to Takara's which gets a 4.0. Calling a spade a spade.

Also, why didn't they just stamped the FD logo on his doors? Really now!

But, as in but, the transformation sequence is another marvel in toy design engineering. A kind of high tech origami of you will. Anyway, that's a field of art and culture the Japanese excel at.

The wheel placements sliding back to lock. The pseudo ladder lever cum projector thingie (the truck mode has it in small aluminum color paint while the robot mode is a more detailed rotary dial chromed appendage) is presented in two forms!

Not to mention how his shoulder wings are neatly incorporated into the structure without any parts forming ( Takara must have hone their style since that Tracks/Roadrage debacle) that severely affects space and functionality.

The ladder? Just awesome! Intuitive and very simple! Takara hands down wins this round! If that trick was 1st incorporated to that one by Maketoys? Takara should hang their head in shame but instead they were the first to develop it and used that as a pitch hitter!

So more or less, Grapple will also incorporate this origami voodoo again so's Artfire but for 2017, the 1st 2 quarters aside from Megs, we'll be stuck with the Fuso mold and Cheetas. I wam now waiting with exteme anticipation if hound or Jazz gets the next MP treatment.

So, my thoughts on Inferno. We will, of course, start with a dashboard picture, because me.



Inferno, depending on personal taste, is a good looking figure. It is here that I should warn you that I am not a huge fan of the new direction that Takara is taking with trying to make Masterpiece figures look as cartoon accurate as possible. I didn't like Shockwave, and I don't really like the look of Inferno. Cartoon accurate is not what I want. I want the best possible mix of toy, cartoon, and realism that can be achieved. It is what they used to do, and what they need to do again. This will overshadow most of my feelings on this guy, but I will try and be objective. Moving on....

Inferno can look good with other figures. His lack of detail will stand out a bit, but he still works. Particularly if you have ratchet or ironhide by him to help smooth out the style transitions.



On the plus side, and this is a very large plus, he is very articulated. He can strike many a pose, and his joints are tight and solid enough to hold those poses.





He also comes with many accessories. In the first pic on the dash, you can see that he as a cartoonish grill, with a pearl coat like white plastic grill. He also comes with a chrome grill that looks more "realistic" giving Inferno more of a traditional feel. This is the grill I choose to use, though I do worry about rub off. Here are some pics.







Inferno also comes with a very unique accessory: a grill piece with clear plastic extensions that enable him to carry Red Alert (or any Lambo MP mold). You have to love the nod to the fans with this one.



Then of course, there is the much discussed "ladder magic". I don't think there is much more I can add to this conversation, so here is a simple pic. You can also see a handy dandy clip on point for his Rifle while in robot mode.



Tuck mode is okay. Nowhere near as good as some 3rd party models out there, but passable. I feel this is a bit of a step down from your standard Masterpiece alt mode, as it looks very much like the G1 toy without much updates.



Truck mode also offers 2 different options for weapon storage.






Of course, Inferno has plastic tires, instead of rubber. This alone, in my opinion, should disqualify him from a masterpiece title.

All in all, while a good figure, a nice update from the original G1, Inferno is not (in my opinion) a great Masterpiece. I sold my MMC Backdraft after reading so many good reviews about this guy, and now I have the regrets. Oh well, this figure will do. As for recommendations, is you are a Takara/Hasbro loyalist, go ahead and get this figure. If, however, you are like me, and want the best possible update and representation of a character, look at the other options that are out there.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, my thoughts on Inferno. We will, of course, start with a dashboard picture, because me.



Of course, Inferno has plastic tires, instead of rubber. This alone, in my opinion, should disqualify him from a masterpiece title.

All in all, while a good figure, a nice update from the original G1, Inferno is not (in my opinion) a great Masterpiece. I sold my MMC Backdraft after reading so many good reviews about this guy, and now I have the regrets. Oh well, this figure will do. As for recommendations, is you are a Takara/Hasbro loyalist, go ahead and get this figure. If, however, you are like me, and want the best possible update and representation of a character, look at the other options that are out there.

To paraphrase TC, "earth is so flat" Same can be said of Inferno. So anime accurate alright as in bereft of details which could have been done better, heck, GF Convoy mold had more details than him. Btw, about the wheels, almost all the new MPs (except MP-01,MP-10)used plastic tires. So they're not MP anymore? Broad stroke generalizing bro. Not that I dislike rubber tires but the ones on my MP-10 first release have some annoying QC issues ( shrunk and warped)

Glad you got one . Same like IH and Hotrodimus, I'm sure you'll enjoy him as the mold will grow on you.

P.S. I wonder if Grapple and Artfire will use a different type of facepaint from Inferno. The one used on him is quite different from the standard silver aluminum type apps.

If a masterpiece costs over 100 bucks, rubber tires are the least if things they can add. It doesn't bother me on the other releases as they cost far less. Well, it does bother me, but I can let it go.

Apologies for my naivety, but what is the advantage of having rubber tires instead of plastic? As far as I can tell both are decent for a figure but rubber degrades much quicker.

For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.

I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.



Finally, other than my prime and magnus from RiD 2000, I've never had an issue with rubber tires cracking, so I don't have any real bias from that perspectiv .

As far as I'm concerned things like rubber tires, die cast, and unnecessary chrome (more of a main-line complaint than a MP issue) are just window dressing and the number of included parts more than makes up for Inferno lacking those features.

Emerje

Kurona wrote:Apologies for my naivety, but what is the advantage of having rubber tires instead of plastic? As far as I can tell both are decent for a figure but rubber degrades much quicker.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.

I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.


Finally, other than my prime and magnus from RiD 2000, I've never had an issue with rubber tires cracking, so I don't have any real bias from that perspectiv .

Kurona

Agreed.

IHD

Your just lucky. Given that you mentioned you own the Hb Fireconvoy version. I had the fortunate opportunity to own first the Hb then the Takara version. The rubber in my Hb version rutted almost withing 6 months of purchase. That was back in 2002. The JP version which I acquired 8 years later still hasn't. So you must have been really really lucky.

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Apologies for my naivety, but what is the advantage of having rubber tires instead of plastic? As far as I can tell both are decent for a figure but rubber degrades much quicker.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.

I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.


Finally, other than my prime and magnus from RiD 2000, I've never had an issue with rubber tires cracking, so I don't have any real bias from that perspectiv .

Kurona

Agreed.

IHD

Your just lucky. Given that you mentioned you own the Hb Fireconvoy version. I had the fortunate opportunity to own first the Hb then the Takara version. The rubber in my Hb version rutted almost withing 6 months of purchase. That was back in 2002. The JP version which I acquired 8 years later still hasn't. So you must have been really really lucky.

When I sold both versions of Convoy and God Magnus last year to clear the decks for my Masterpiece collection, all their rubber wheels were fine and I got them all when they were contemporary.

MP Inferno and the Legends are still stuck somewhere (it's been five weeks since shipped) so I can't comment on him yet.

But I generally prefer plastic wheels on the cars because they make engine noise when I roll them on the desk.

Plus, there's all the stories about rubber wheels..

sol magnus wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Apologies for my naivety, but what is the advantage of having rubber tires instead of plastic? As far as I can tell both are decent for a figure but rubber degrades much quicker.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.

I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.


Finally, other than my prime and magnus from RiD 2000, I've never had an issue with rubber tires cracking, so I don't have any real bias from that perspectiv .

Kurona

Agreed.

IHD

Your just lucky. Given that you mentioned you own the Hb Fireconvoy version. I had the fortunate opportunity to own first the Hb then the Takara version. The rubber in my Hb version rutted almost withing 6 months of purchase. That was back in 2002. The JP version which I acquired 8 years later still hasn't. So you must have been really really lucky.

When I sold both versions of Convoy and God Magnus last year to clear the decks for my Masterpiece collection, all their rubber wheels were fine and I got them all when they were contemporary.

Lucky.

Cyberpath wrote:MP Inferno and the Legends are still stuck somewhere (it's been five weeks since shipped) so I can't comment on him yet.

But I generally prefer plastic wheels on the cars because they make engine noise when I roll them on the desk.

Plus, there's all the stories about rubber wheels..

But this is a truck

Ironhidensh wrote:All in all, while a good figure, a nice update from the original G1, Inferno is not (in my opinion) a great Masterpiece. I sold my MMC Backdraft after reading so many good reviews about this guy, and now I have the regrets. Oh well, this figure will do. As for recommendations, is you are a Takara/Hasbro loyalist, go ahead and get this figure. If, however, you are like me, and want the best possible update and representation of a character, look at the other options that are out there.

This makes me glad I stuck with my Hellfire figure. Much more detailed and more in line with my other MPs and 3rd party figures. Kinda makes me glad as I'm attempting to wind down my MP collecting to just the Must Have characters and this new direction will make that easier.

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.
I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.

I agree with this. I dont know what makes Inferno so expensive, and this is just looking at the yen price. I dont feel I am getting a lot for my money which is why I have yet to purchase inferno.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.
I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.

I agree with this. I dont know what makes Inferno so expensive, and this is just looking at the yen price. I dont feel I am getting a lot for my money which is why I have yet to purchase inferno.

Looks like a lot to me.



Not to mention they had to actually pay for their vehicle licence.

Emerje

That's not a whole lot more compared to Ironhide. Who inferno is only an inch taller than.

Does he have any diecast

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:For me, it's all about the look and feel. Also, what you are getting for your money.
I also compare it to the competition. 3rd party companies can do it and keep costs similar, what is the excuse for Takara, the "bigger better" company.

I agree with this. I dont know what makes Inferno so expensive, and this is just looking at the yen price. I dont feel I am getting a lot for my money which is why I have yet to purchase inferno.

Looks like a lot to me.



Not to mention they had to actually pay for their vehicle licence.

Emerje

Ironhide had to get a license as well. Also, I feel Inferno doesn't come with half the assessories Ironhide did. While I'm sure you'll disagree with me, and that's perfectly fine, when I hold Inferno in hand, I cannot tell where all the extra money went.

Bumblebee21 wrote:That's not a whole lot more compared to Ironhide. Who inferno is only an inch taller than.

Does he have any diecast

Actually, Inferno and Ironhide are the same height. I actually think Ironhide is a little heavier than Inferno.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:That's not a whole lot more compared to Ironhide. Who inferno is only an inch taller than.

Does he have any diecast

Actually, Inferno and Ironhide are the same height. I actually think Ironhide is a little heavier than Inferno.

I'd say use a scale. Something larger often feels lighter than something smaller of the same weight.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:That's not a whole lot more compared to Ironhide. Who inferno is only an inch taller than.

Does he have any diecast

Actually, Inferno and Ironhide are the same height. I actually think Ironhide is a little heavier than Inferno.

Really inferno looked a bit taller.
That's why I can't justify the price.
Basically paying extra for ladder magic

SillySpringer wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

Bumblebee21 wrote:That's not a whole lot more compared to Ironhide. Who inferno is only an inch taller than.

Does he have any diecast

Actually, Inferno and Ironhide are the same height. I actually think Ironhide is a little heavier than Inferno.

I'd say use a scale. Something larger often feels lighter than something smaller of the same weight.

Okay, did that. Inferno does weigh 3 ounces more. I concede that point.