Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Flip'n' Change Grimlock, Smash'n'Change Optimus Prime
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Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Flip'n' Change Grimlock, Smash'n'Change Optimus Prime
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Comment by craggy
Apr 19, 2014
I still hold out that if this was the kind of toy aimed at us as kids we'd be on a website called Gaobotron.com
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 19, 2014
What's a Gaobot? Some sort of beast thing?craggy wrote:I still hold out that if this was the kind of toy aimed at us as kids we'd be on a website called Gaobotron.com
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Comment by craggy
Apr 19, 2014
well, I typed Gobotron, then realised that's probably already a site. Since we use the Japanese spelling of Cybertron, and I was too lazy to look up if there was a Japanese translation of the Gobots' homeworld, I winged it.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 19, 2014
I wonder if there even is a Japanese name for it, lol.craggy wrote:well, I typed Gobotron, then realised that's probably already a site. Since we use the Japanese spelling of Cybertron, and I was too lazy to look up if there was a Japanese translation of the Gobots' homeworld, I winged it.
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Comment by craggy
Apr 19, 2014
I'm not aware of the Gobots franchise being repackaged and sent back to Japan. I think they just had their original Machine Robos.
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Comment by OptimalOptimus2
Apr 19, 2014
Great. Hasbro has wasted all their money just to make simple toys for kids. 
Kids don't like simple Transformers toys. The Toys"R"Us in my area has a cluster of Transformers: Prime Robots In Disguise and Beast Hunters Cyberverse figures. Kids don't like those toys, therefore they don't pay attention to them. Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see). These simplified toys are going to stay on the shelves until Transformers 5 is released.
Kids don't like simple Transformers toys. The Toys"R"Us in my area has a cluster of Transformers: Prime Robots In Disguise and Beast Hunters Cyberverse figures. Kids don't like those toys, therefore they don't pay attention to them. Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see). These simplified toys are going to stay on the shelves until Transformers 5 is released.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 19, 2014
You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see).
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to be fair, it does sometimes seem like it, with The Hive clogging the shelves. Should be better this time around what with there only being 1 Bee per case and I'll be doing my part to clear the shelves of Dinobots at least.
Comment by craggy
Apr 19, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Hasbro could have used all of that plastic for a Deluxe Stinger, Lockdown, and Concept Camaro Bumblebee (something that we want to see).
to be fair, it does sometimes seem like it, with The Hive clogging the shelves. Should be better this time around what with there only being 1 Bee per case and I'll be doing my part to clear the shelves of Dinobots at least.
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My main point of the comment was that kids and adult collectors don't like simple Transformers. Have you ever heard a someone get excited for some Cyberverse toys. Well I haven't. That plastic could have been used to make Deluxe Bumblebee, Lockdown, Stinger, or possibly [and hopefully but it's very possible that it will never happen] a Leader Class Galvatron.
I know that more movie toys are released after Wave 1, but a cheaply made toy is not something a someone would want. It's a waste of plastic. These simplified Transformers are a waste of plastic. That's why I said that.
Comment by OptimalOptimus2
Apr 19, 2014
Sabrblade wrote:You say that like they're never going to make those toys. As though the movie toylines never have any more toys after Wave 1.
My main point of the comment was that kids and adult collectors don't like simple Transformers. Have you ever heard a someone get excited for some Cyberverse toys. Well I haven't. That plastic could have been used to make Deluxe Bumblebee, Lockdown, Stinger, or possibly [and hopefully but it's very possible that it will never happen] a Leader Class Galvatron.
I know that more movie toys are released after Wave 1, but a cheaply made toy is not something a someone would want. It's a waste of plastic. These simplified Transformers are a waste of plastic. That's why I said that.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
Apr 19, 2014
Hey, I LOVE Cyberverse toys.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
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Comment by Evil Eye
Apr 19, 2014
Meh, I'm not really bothered by the simplified toys like the flip-n-changer. I won't buy them, but I'm sure there'll be plenty of younger kids who will love them. The main line figures (Especially the Dinobots) look great anyway. I'll probably be picking up Slug, Scorn and Crosshairs, and possibly Strafe when he comes out.
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Speaking of easy yet fun, how many of you love, adore and admire the Gravity Bots?
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Apr 19, 2014
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hey, I LOVE Cyberverse toys.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
Speaking of easy yet fun, how many of you love, adore and admire the Gravity Bots?
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Comment by welcometothedarksyde
Apr 19, 2014
These obviously don't appeal to us, and I suspect they won't appeal to kids either. But something that I imagine would've been cooler is something to the effect of HFTD activators.
They're not spectacular, but they're cute, they have articulation, and they're kinda cool. And I'm pretty sure that the smallest size of the kids toys are gonna cost about as much as these did. Just my opinion, but something like this would've been cooler, and in my view would probably sell better.
They're not spectacular, but they're cute, they have articulation, and they're kinda cool. And I'm pretty sure that the smallest size of the kids toys are gonna cost about as much as these did. Just my opinion, but something like this would've been cooler, and in my view would probably sell better.
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Comment by TimothyR
Apr 19, 2014
i'm starting to hope that this entire line tanks.. hopefully it'll show hasbro that we're not going to tolerate this crap.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
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Comment by Rated X
Apr 19, 2014
I saw em in my walmart last week. I wanted to smash and change them with a sledgehammer. Where are the non kiddie versions ?
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I'd have a lot more of them if they (1) had minicon ports and (2) cost a lot less. Mostly #2. I like fiddly little Transformers I can carry in my pocket and transform without looking at it (e.g., while reading journal articles, coding videos, listening to lectures), but dang the price seems disproportionate to the size/complexity.
Comment by Dr. Caelus
Apr 19, 2014
-Kanrabat- wrote:Hey, I LOVE Cyberverse toys.
Those quick changing toys could have been Cyberverses instead.
But maybe Cyberverses were not selling enough.
I'd have a lot more of them if they (1) had minicon ports and (2) cost a lot less. Mostly #2. I like fiddly little Transformers I can carry in my pocket and transform without looking at it (e.g., while reading journal articles, coding videos, listening to lectures), but dang the price seems disproportionate to the size/complexity.
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Comment by DinobotScorn
Apr 19, 2014
Ok, this is the complete opposite of what I was expecting. Either this guy got a dud of a Grimlock, or that Toy Fair demo was lying to us. As for Smashin' Optimus there, yeah...he blows, too.
How much does this crap even cost? If it's anything over $10, it's not worth it at all.
(Fingers still crossed that the Lockdown from this line can be good.)
How much does this crap even cost? If it's anything over $10, it's not worth it at all.
(Fingers still crossed that the Lockdown from this line can be good.)
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Hold on, let me check, these showed up in a Walmart two nights ago.
$19.96 if the shelf tag is right.
Comment by Flashwave
Apr 19, 2014
DinobotScorn wrote:Ok, this is the complete opposite of what I was expecting. Either this guy got a dud of a Grimlock, or that Toy Fair demo was lying to us. As for Smashin' Optimus there, yeah...he blows, too.
How much does this crap even cost? If it's anything over $10, it's not worth it at all.
(Fingers still crossed that the Lockdown from this line can be good.)
Hold on, let me check, these showed up in a Walmart two nights ago.
$19.96 if the shelf tag is right.
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Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're kid's toys or anything.
Seriously though, the adult fandom isn't the only (or even largest) demographic that Hasbro has to pander to. This isn't MLP (where the actual target demographic is smaller than the hordes of sweaty manchildren that fantasize about stunted horses). Most of the buyers will be kids. For the most part, they won't pass a toy because "THE GREY OF HIS WRIST JOINTS IS 1/5TH OF A SHADE TOO PALE!!!", they decide on whether to get a toy because it looks cool/fun. Heck, I absolutely loved Armada Laserbeak when I was a kid, and that guy's been bashed to hell and back by collectors. Heck, to Hasbro, pandering to the kids instead of the collectors probably seems like a better idea- kids are fairly easy to impress, whilst a lot of collectors will skip a toy because the figure's fingers are a millimetre too long. Basic marketing.
Besides, they've been cranking out some excellent Generations figures to keep the "mature" fans happy.
Comment by Evil Eye
Apr 20, 2014
TimothyR wrote:i'm starting to hope that this entire line tanks.. hopefully it'll show hasbro that we're not going to tolerate this crap.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're kid's toys or anything.
Seriously though, the adult fandom isn't the only (or even largest) demographic that Hasbro has to pander to. This isn't MLP (where the actual target demographic is smaller than the hordes of sweaty manchildren that fantasize about stunted horses). Most of the buyers will be kids. For the most part, they won't pass a toy because "THE GREY OF HIS WRIST JOINTS IS 1/5TH OF A SHADE TOO PALE!!!", they decide on whether to get a toy because it looks cool/fun. Heck, I absolutely loved Armada Laserbeak when I was a kid, and that guy's been bashed to hell and back by collectors. Heck, to Hasbro, pandering to the kids instead of the collectors probably seems like a better idea- kids are fairly easy to impress, whilst a lot of collectors will skip a toy because the figure's fingers are a millimetre too long. Basic marketing.
Besides, they've been cranking out some excellent Generations figures to keep the "mature" fans happy.
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You diss the adults MLP fans has being "manchildren" but then you give the perfect argument that the adult TF collectors are manchildren too.
Face it, no matter what kind of toys we collect, we will be seen as "manchildren" by the general public. So, let's not be hipsters by saying one kind of collection is better than another, shall we? That's childish behavior.
Comment by -Kanrabat-
Apr 20, 2014
Delta Magnus wrote:TimothyR wrote:i'm starting to hope that this entire line tanks.. hopefully it'll show hasbro that we're not going to tolerate this crap.
even with their main line figures, they decided to color every single one of them wrong. this is an unacceptable way to treat the fans that pay their inflated salaries.. especially on the 30th anniversary of the brand.. it's pathetic.
Yeah, I mean, it's not like they're kid's toys or anything.
Seriously though, the adult fandom isn't the only (or even largest) demographic that Hasbro has to pander to. This isn't MLP (where the actual target demographic is smaller than the hordes of sweaty manchildren that fantasize about stunted horses). Most of the buyers will be kids. For the most part, they won't pass a toy because "THE GREY OF HIS WRIST JOINTS IS 1/5TH OF A SHADE TOO PALE!!!", they decide on whether to get a toy because it looks cool/fun. Heck, I absolutely loved Armada Laserbeak when I was a kid, and that guy's been bashed to hell and back by collectors. Heck, to Hasbro, pandering to the kids instead of the collectors probably seems like a better idea- kids are fairly easy to impress, whilst a lot of collectors will skip a toy because the figure's fingers are a millimetre too long. Basic marketing.
Besides, they've been cranking out some excellent Generations figures to keep the "mature" fans happy.
You diss the adults MLP fans has being "manchildren" but then you give the perfect argument that the adult TF collectors are manchildren too.
Face it, no matter what kind of toys we collect, we will be seen as "manchildren" by the general public. So, let's not be hipsters by saying one kind of collection is better than another, shall we? That's childish behavior.
