LG-EX Blue Big Convoy first in hand photos arrive

I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

Been thinking recently, if Takara wants to expand the Armada updates to more characters than just Optimus and maybe Jetfire/Overload, they could pretty easily make a Wheeljack from Siege Sideswipe.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:Been thinking recently, if Takara wants to expand the Armada updates to more characters than just Optimus and maybe Jetfire/Overload, they could pretty easily make a Wheeljack from Siege Sideswipe.

Oh, man, I would BUY that

william-james88 wrote:

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

That appears to be the big difference between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's plans for the 35th anniversary. What Hasbro displayed was entirely G1, but what Takara Tomy displayed with Star Convoy and especially Armada Prime seems to be celebrating the life of the franchise as a whole rather than it's origin. But really lack enough information to say anything is for certain from either side just yet.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

That appears to be the big difference between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's plans for the 35th anniversary. What Hasbro displayed was entirely G1, but what Takara Tomy displayed with Star Convoy and especially Armada Prime seems to be celebrating the life of the franchise as a whole rather than it's origin. But really lack enough information to say anything is for certain from either side just yet.

Emerje

For now tho, it's a pretty safe bet whatever new tooling TakaraTomy makes for its lines will remain in Japan for a good while, brand new molds more so. We did get Super Ginrai, but not Godbomber.

Oh man, that Blue Big Convoy is a thing of beauty!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

That appears to be the big difference between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's plans for the 35th anniversary. What Hasbro displayed was entirely G1, but what Takara Tomy displayed with Star Convoy and especially Armada Prime seems to be celebrating the life of the franchise as a whole rather than it's origin. But really lack enough information to say anything is for certain from either side just yet.

Emerje

For now tho, it's a pretty safe bet whatever new tooling TakaraTomy makes for its lines will remain in Japan for a good while, brand new molds more so. We did get Super Ginrai, but not Godbomber.

yes, but wasn't that godbomber happened before the brand unification thing become official? and since they said that brand unification means takara and hasbro gets the exact same thing, it is safe to assume that armada prime will be brought by hasbro as well, unless it is an LG-EX thing.

bacem wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

That appears to be the big difference between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's plans for the 35th anniversary. What Hasbro displayed was entirely G1, but what Takara Tomy displayed with Star Convoy and especially Armada Prime seems to be celebrating the life of the franchise as a whole rather than it's origin. But really lack enough information to say anything is for certain from either side just yet.

Emerje

For now tho, it's a pretty safe bet whatever new tooling TakaraTomy makes for its lines will remain in Japan for a good while, brand new molds more so. We did get Super Ginrai, but not Godbomber.

yes, but wasn't that godbomber happened before the brand unification thing become official? and since they said that brand unification means takara and hasbro gets the exact same thing, it is safe to assume that armada prime will be brought by hasbro as well, unless it is an LG-EX thing.

Not quite what you think. In practice, what the brand unification does is eliminate regional variants (meaning the figures have no discernible changes between regions), but nothing else. Each company is still free to do whatever with the lines, like how to market them in their respective areas, and when to release them, if at all. For instance:

• Generally speaking, toys are the same, but the packaging is different.
• TakaraTomy seems to have opted out of the Cyberverse and Bumblebee lines for now, aside from the Studio Series releases and Power Charge Bumblebee (plus that Speed Series 'Bee redeco).
• Hasbro has yet to announce any domestic release of the Legendary Optimus Prime figure (the AoE Evasion upscale), plus the Powered Masters retools

Also, TakaraTomy-originals have a rough time fitting with Hasbro's price points which may hamper a possible US-release (and of that aforementioned upscale). I will give you that so far, PotP, Siege, and the Studio Series (barring exclusives) have been the same in both regions when it comes to releases, just a different release order. Not too sure about Masterpiece (tho I know Convoy v.3 will keep the Japanese sounds when released in the US).

All the more reason to through this bullshit "unification" in the trash, and for Takara to get back to making vastly superior decos.

I think Takara are doing quite well with the brand unification actually, while I have no proof, it wouldn't surprise me that the money they've saved by not doing specialised decos for every figure has saved them money, which has then gone into developing these LG-ex releases and their own ip like Diaclone and whatever the transforming trains line is (oh and the other transforming car line)

ZeroWolf wrote:I think Takara are doing quite well with the brand unification actually, while I have no proof, it wouldn't surprise me that the money they've saved by not doing specialised decos for every figure has saved them money, which has then gone into developing these LG-ex releases and their own ip like Diaclone and whatever the transforming trains line is (oh and the other transforming car line)

That diaclone reboot is an expensive, but amazing, line. I’ve been eyeballing those trains... I just don’t get what the gimmick is.... so they just swap parts?

bacem wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Emerje wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Gzstg wrote:I think that Hasbro will release Armada Prime here as Armada was a major part of the franchise in America at the time and the nostalgia is there. He probably will be released in Hasbro Pulse as a 35th anniversary thing. If he has a trailer I think it will be retooled from Power of the Primes Rodimus since he combines in a similar way to Armada Prime. as for a size class if it includes a trailer then it could be what ever class Siege JetFire is as the super mode of the original is of a similar height.

He is not part of 35th line, nor would he be, its not related to G1.

That appears to be the big difference between Hasbro and Takara Tomy's plans for the 35th anniversary. What Hasbro displayed was entirely G1, but what Takara Tomy displayed with Star Convoy and especially Armada Prime seems to be celebrating the life of the franchise as a whole rather than it's origin. But really lack enough information to say anything is for certain from either side just yet.

Emerje

For now tho, it's a pretty safe bet whatever new tooling TakaraTomy makes for its lines will remain in Japan for a good while, brand new molds more so. We did get Super Ginrai, but not Godbomber.

yes, but wasn't that godbomber happened before the brand unification thing become official? and since they said that brand unification means takara and hasbro gets the exact same thing, it is safe to assume that armada prime will be brought by hasbro as well, unless it is an LG-EX thing.

Brand unification means the toy will look the same no matter where it is sold. That is entirely independent from whether or not a toy will be carried by one company or the other. We have enough proof now with the near hundred of hasbro/takara exclusive toys we got in 2018 that not everything released by one company will be released by the other.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think Takara are doing quite well with the brand unification actually, while I have no proof, it wouldn't surprise me that the money they've saved by not doing specialised decos for every figure has saved them money, which has then gone into developing these LG-ex releases and their own ip like Diaclone and whatever the transforming trains line is (oh and the other transforming car line)

That diaclone reboot is an expensive, but amazing, line. I’ve been eyeballing those trains... I just don’t get what the gimmick is.... so they just swap parts?

1) The car line is called Drive-Head. I think it's an offshoot of their Tomica Hyper lines with the interchanging and combining vehicles.

2) Shinkalion. They're basically transforming Shinkansen of various models. The beginning has them all split into "shirts" and "pants", but starting with Black Shinkalion, they've expanded into other forms of combination, even compatible with earlier trains! Doctor Yellow (a diagnostics train) is especially big... and quite beloved. I've seen videos of people ganging up when one passes by.

Shinkalion is also possibly more popular in Japan than Transformers right now. There's even a model kit line from Good Smile Company and even Vocaloid Hatsune Miku has a minor character in the show.

Ironhidensh wrote:All the more reason to through this bullshit "unification" in the trash, and for Takara to get back to making vastly superior decos.

I would argue that the level of paint we've seen in Siege is as good as anything we got in Legends, especially the Voyagers and Leaders. At best they might have removed the dirt and battle damage, but I can't see them doing much different with the colors aside from doing boring stuff for cartoon accuracy like removing the red from Cog. Same with PotP Deluxe, I'm not sure what Takara Tomy could have done to paint them better.

I've really never considered either company doing better or worse versions (aside from Hasbro's stickers), they were just doing things in a different direction. Hasbro preferred to do things more like the original toys and Takara Tomy went for cartoons.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I've really never considered either company doing better or worse versions (aside from Hasbro's stickers), they were just doing things in a different direction. Hasbro preferred to do things more like the original toys and Takara Tomy went for cartoons.

It would have been nice, though, if the "brand unification" could have held off one more year so we could have had Takara Tomy repaints of the Power of the Primes figures, if only to have the Voyagers and Leaders done without the craptastic stickers. At least with the second half of Titans Return, we were still able to get most of the "stickered" figures in a non-stickered version via Transformers Legends.

Emerje wrote:
I've really never considered either company doing better or worse versions (aside from Hasbro's stickers), they were just doing things in a different direction. Hasbro preferred to do things more like the original toys and Takara Tomy went for cartoons.

Emerje

We will just have to agree to disagree. I saw Hasbro figures as cheap mass market offerings (which is what they are, I get that) and Takara as the bbn premium collector line. If you just want a toy, hasbro us just fine, but if you wanted a display piece, it was takara all the way.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Emerje wrote:
I've really never considered either company doing better or worse versions (aside from Hasbro's stickers), they were just doing things in a different direction. Hasbro preferred to do things more like the original toys and Takara Tomy went for cartoons.

Emerje

We will just have to agree to disagree. I saw Hasbro figures as cheap mass market offerings (which is what they are, I get that) and Takara as the bbn premium collector line. If you just want a toy, hasbro us just fine, but if you wanted a display piece, it was takara all the way.

Question for you Iron, what did you think of Misfire? To me thats a great example of the companies giving us something just as good. Hasbro's even felt slightly better in value due to being a cheaper price point and still having a great deco (i think its better) and exclusive weaponry.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Emerje wrote:
I've really never considered either company doing better or worse versions (aside from Hasbro's stickers), they were just doing things in a different direction. Hasbro preferred to do things more like the original toys and Takara Tomy went for cartoons.

Emerje

We will just have to agree to disagree. I saw Hasbro figures as cheap mass market offerings (which is what they are, I get that) and Takara as the bbn premium collector line. If you just want a toy, hasbro us just fine, but if you wanted a display piece, it was takara all the way.

I get it, I bought more Legends figures than Titans Return figures, but there's quite a few figures that I bought both versions either because I thought both looked great (the Decepticon Targetmasters) or both looked so different (Hot Rod). There was also a lot of TR figures that I bought just because I didn't care about what Legends was doing. I wouldn't call the TR original Headmasters less displayable than their Legends counterparts, they just represent something entirely different.

Emerje

Thanks to Robotkingdom on Facebook, we have images of the highly anticipated LG-EX Big Powered Boxes, including both the cardboard mailing package and the figure's box itself. The box features original art depicting each figure, as well as images of each figure in robot, vehicle and base modes. The figure is slated to release on the 30th of March, so be sure to ready yourself for this figure's imminent release.

The images were posted as an individual album, but the images are indeed provided below. Be sure to let us know if you're excited for these figures in the forums below, and be sure to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more Transformers news and reviews!

Dagnabbit!! I got to get in on this....

Heh, Hopefully he comes soon! I'm not expecting a charge for him for another 2 weeks still

my tf source preorder still says march 2019
anyway im glad i already pre paid for it so all i have to worry about is waiting

Actually now, with BBTS charging taxes beginning 4/1, I'm glad I didn't pre-order it. I'll have to do what I usually do. Start to save up, then gradually monitor sites vs eBay to see if this is a hot item, or something that sticks around long enough to eventually go on sale. Legends Grand Maximus seems to still be plentiful at BBTS. If he's still around towards the end of the year, I'm hoping for that to start to go on sale as well.

o.supreme wrote:Actually now, with BBTS charging taxes beginning 4/1, I'm glad I didn't pre-order it. I'll have to do what I usually do. Start to save up, then gradually monitor sites vs eBay to see if this is a hot item, or something that sticks around long enough to eventually go on sale. Legends Grand Maximus seems to still be plentiful at BBTS. If he's still around towards the end of the year, I'm hoping for that to start to go on sale as well.

I will be doing the same.

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g49048 ... -dZMVS3JU8

Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet? it features SIEGE Battle Patrol, Race Team and Air Strike.



Also this Unicron...

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

Thanks, Sabrblade!

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

and i suppose those arent powercore combiners either

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

and i suppose those arent powercore combiners either

Not Unicron as in it's a copy based on BW Neo Unicron, made from an asteroid like Remora from Shadow Raiders. And those PCC characters are upgraded Micromasters from United EX (tho not called out as such).

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

and i suppose those arent powercore combiners either

Indeed. Those are the Micomaster Sky Patrol Team members in their Master Class bodies from the United EX line, which were redecos of the Power Core Combiner toys. Read the actual summaries and see the full comic images in the post of that manga thread itself before jumping to conclusions. This is the toy topic. The manga talk was given its own thread for a reason (as in, so that the people who wanted to see just the toys and not the manga could have the manga stuff not in this thread).

Looks awesome, thank you Takara!

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Albatross250 wrote:Anyone posted the Manga continuation yet?

Yes. I have. In the right thread. This is the toy-only thread.

And that's not Unicron.

and i suppose those arent powercore combiners either

Indeed. Those are the Micomaster Sky Patrol Team members in their Master Class bodies from the United EX line, which were redecos of the Power Core Combiner toys. Read the actual summaries and see the full comic images in the post of that manga thread itself before jumping to conclusions. This is the toy topic. The manga talk was given its own thread for a reason (as in, so that the people who wanted to see just the toys and not the manga could have the manga stuff not in this thread).

Who's jumping to conclusions,
Making accusations is not appreciated

From Dai Atlas's pack-in manga, here is the combined form of all five Powered Masters (and the Diaclone Big Powered toy, but that's not important now).

Presenting... Ultra Powered!

https://twitter.com/portarmy/status/1112346661638946820

I'm sure somebody has already submitted the in hand images for big powered, so all I'll say is that while Dai Atlas' legs are thin and hollow, the blue background makes them look worse. On the plus side it looks like Dia Atlas is all one piece.

Really looking forward to the big powered set. Got the God Ginrai combo pack (finally) to hold me over.

BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot? They were revealed together and as far as I know we haven't seen anything since on either.

I was trying to think of what the inner robot would look like but I remember the vehicle mode being a long-nosed truck, just like Micron Convoy.

Also I guess this unification means Takara's version of Galaxy-mode Optimus will be the same, with the Optimus repaint of Magnus' inner bot with a new chest, which in turn was a retool of Voyager class Optimus.

bruticus24484 wrote:BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot?

It's not. Further pics of the new Star Convoy showed it's back to have just a standard G1-based Optimus for its inner robot.

Sabrblade wrote:

bruticus24484 wrote:BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot?

It's not. Further pics of the new Star Convoy showed it's back to have just a standard G1-based Optimus for its inner robot.

Ah, kay. Sounds terrible. I have to look these picks up.

bruticus24484 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

bruticus24484 wrote:BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot?

It's not. Further pics of the new Star Convoy showed it's back to have just a standard G1-based Optimus for its inner robot.

Ah, kay. Sounds terrible. I have to look these picks up.

It sounds more of a good way to show that Optimus Prime was resurrected into his Star Convoy body. Plus an inspection of Micron Convoy revealed fists in his legs which can only mean one thing...Micron Convoy Super Mode (or that they'll make Jetfire next... Or both)

bruticus24484 wrote:Really looking forward to the big powered set. Got the God Ginrai combo pack (finally) to hold me over.

BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot? They were revealed together and as far as I know we haven't seen anything since on either.

I was trying to think of what the inner robot would look like but I remember the vehicle mode being a long-nosed truck, just like Micron Convoy.

Also I guess this unification means Takara's version of Galaxy-mode Optimus will be the same, with the Optimus repaint of Magnus' inner bot with a new chest, which in turn was a retool of Voyager class Optimus.

Actually, the Siege Magnus inner bot is an entirely separate mold with entirely different engineering from Voyager Optimus.

More on topic, Star Convoy's inner robot appears to be specifically based on the original G1 toy of Optimus, with the head having details only the original toy had.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

bruticus24484 wrote:Really looking forward to the big powered set. Got the God Ginrai combo pack (finally) to hold me over.

BTW, I thought of this the other day, might Micron Convoy actually be Star Convoy's inner robot? They were revealed together and as far as I know we haven't seen anything since on either.

I was trying to think of what the inner robot would look like but I remember the vehicle mode being a long-nosed truck, just like Micron Convoy.

Also I guess this unification means Takara's version of Galaxy-mode Optimus will be the same, with the Optimus repaint of Magnus' inner bot with a new chest, which in turn was a retool of Voyager class Optimus.

Actually, the Siege Magnus inner bot is an entirely separate mold with entirely different engineering from Voyager Optimus.

More on topic, Star Convoy's inner robot appears to be specifically based on the original G1 toy of Optimus, with the head having details only the original toy had.

Some parts like the head and hands come directly from Voyager optimus, and the sculpting is identical. It's a heavy retool but shares too many designs for me personally to consider it new.

As far as star convoy having OG convoy inside, it's really silly to me because he will be the fourth minor variation of this design in this line alone. G1 optimus is my favorite character and I am honestly getting sick of him.

Doesn't help that the combined mode also looks just like OG convoy because it's a retool of potp optimus who was g1. It will literally be convoy transforming into a slight variation of himself. And this is along with G1 optimus turning into galaxy convoy. The only upside I can see is that the final figure may at least look better than potp optimus originally did, since a screen accurate Orion pax does not easily become a cab over engine semi.

bruticus24484 wrote:Some parts like the head and hands come directly from Voyager optimus, and the sculpting is identical. It's a heavy retool but shares too many designs for me personally to consider it new.

Nuh uh. Siege Ultra Magnus's inner robot head is unique to Siege Voyager Optimus's head. The two molds share zero parts.

bruticus24484 wrote:As far as star convoy having OG convoy inside, it's really silly to me because he will be the fourth minor variation of this design in this line alone. G1 optimus is my favorite character and I am honestly getting sick of him.

Star Convoy is not coming in the Siege line. It's either coming in the Legends line or in some all new line. It's a TakaraTomy-initiated figure made without Hasbro's input, completely unrelated to Siege.

Sabrblade wrote:

bruticus24484 wrote:Some parts like the head and hands come directly from Voyager optimus, and the sculpting is identical. It's a heavy retool but shares too many designs for me personally to consider it new.

Nuh uh. Siege Ultra Magnus's inner robot head is unique to Siege Voyager Optimus's head. The two molds share zero parts.

For the sake of benefit of the doubt, I'm going over a review that compares the two. But no, they're not the same. They may look similar (only part that really does is the head, but the halves have a different attachment method), but that doesn't make them the same parts, especially when it comes to part reuse and retools.

But that's for a different thread

Anyone else feel bummed about having only TR Topspin, especially with that Ultra Powered combo?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyone else feel bummed about having only TR Topspin, especially with that Ultra Powered combo?

Yes, darn you TT

Does the upcoming Big Powered team follow the traditional Japanese Headmaster theory, ie. Dai Atlas is now the head and the main robot body a lifeless husk?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the upcoming Big Powered team follow the traditional Japanese Headmaster theory, ie. Dai Atlas is now the head and the main robot body a lifeless husk?

Yes, I believe so as Vionjeiger (I have not spelt that right at all) took over the old bodies so the old heads became head masters with new bodies built specifically for them.

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Does the upcoming Big Powered team follow the traditional Japanese Headmaster theory, ie. Dai Atlas is now the head and the main robot body a lifeless husk?

Yes, I believe so as Vionjeiger (I have not spelt that right at all) took over the old bodies so the old heads became head masters with new bodies built specifically for them.

Yes, Japan doesn't do the whole "separate partner" thing, except for:

- Great Shot, paired with a reborn Jack
- The Monsterbots, paired with Beastformers (Battle Beasts).

So Speeder, Sonic (no, not that one, Amy!) and Drillbuster have any chance of appearing as Siege Micromaster redecos.

Ugh, the struggle is real! Big Powered arrived for me at BBTS, but I have it in my pile of loot waiting for Selects Ricochet to finally show up. I know I should be smart and save the extra $4 by shipping them together, but, I WANT MY PLASTIC CRACK NOW!!!!

I'm going to be patient.

For now.

Trust me Kev, your's is not the only Pile being held up by Rico Stepper.

Cobotron wrote:Trust me Kev, your's is not the only Pile being held up by Rico Stepper.

Seconded, basically same story here