Machinima Combiner Wars Series Available in Full on YouTube

True. I might have to grab it.

Rated X wrote:True. I might have to grab it.

I'll light a candle for ya.

Nope, after last year I don't need another reminder. watching TR I anticipate will be hard enough. If they would have edited it all together into a single 40 minute video, I might watch it again on a lunch break at work, or if I absolutely had nothing better to do, but nope...not going to do it.

Yikes, this made news?

Thanks for the warning, I'll definitely steer clear of it.

Even the Mortal Kombat franchise had a few hiccups (I am referring to MK4), but they learned from their errors to make even better games afterwards.

Why wouldn't Hasbro or Machinima not do the same? And with modern media-tech like boards like this, it is even easier to listen to the criticisms and learn from us, the Fans who support their projects.

I won't deny that Combiner Wars had it's issues; far from it! But does it really need to be as reviled as some fans make it out to be?
I say "No".
At least they made it to begin with, to be critiqued and appreciated by the Fans that enjoy Transformers.

And now they have the ability to use Titan's Return to give us all another story and show us if they have learned from Combiner Wars.

I am legitimately looking forward to watching Combiner Wars in one shot to make it easier to compare with the future Titan's Return story.

ok..., so I was completely unaware that the CW series was a bonus on the Target exclusive of TLK. Is the series terrible? Sure, but as a completest, I'd like to have it on DVD. Does anyone know if it is in the 8 separate chapters, or is it edited as a single presentation?...It irritates me a bit that things like this are not universal. I don't want to have to compare 20 different versions of a single films media release just to "pick and choose" which bonus content I want.. .

I picked up the Target exclusive for the bonus CW “movie” and eh...it’s grown on me. Aside from the story the frame rate was my biggest gripe and after rewatching it on the bluray it didn’t look as choppy.

o.supreme wrote:ok..., so I was completely unaware that the CW series was a bonus on the Target exclusive of TLK. Is the series terrible? Sure, but as a completest, I'd like to have it on DVD. Does anyone know if it is in the 8 separate chapters, or is it edited as a single presentation?...It irritates me a bit that things like this are not universal. I don't want to have to compare 20 different versions of a single films media release just to "pick and choose" which bonus content I want.. .

It’s not on it’s own disc it’s a bonus feature in the second disc. If you’re a die hard fan and you are just watch it. It’s 40 minutes.

Knowing what you enjoy from your posts you might find some fun in it. That’s not a dig that’s a compliment. Like I just said just I rewatched it and it’s not the worst thing ever.

The story in a nutshell is the war is over and cybertron is run by rodimus, mistress flame and starscream and Combiners are fighting...because. They apparently destroy Caminus and windblade wants to kill Combiners and the council...becuase. The council wants to use the enigma to end the combiner wars by creating more Combiners with the enigma...yeah. Optimus and Megatron join windblade in stopping the council using the enigma...becuase and then it goes to migraine territory.

It’s pretty ridiculous and makes no sense but hey, G1 cartoon and Megatron is pretty awesome in it.

Randomhero wrote:Knowing what you enjoy from your posts you might find some fun in it. That’s not a dig that’s a compliment. Like I just said just I rewatched it and it’s not the worst thing ever.

Thanks for the response. I've seen the series, from day one when it first was on go90 over a year ago, so I'm familiar with it. I just like collecting things on DVD/BRD, that are part of my overall interests even if they are terrible.

Honestly I was not happy with Combiner Wars, simply because Combiners are my favorite part of the whole TF mythology, and this In my opinion, did them a great disservice.

I know its overall length is roughly 40 mins, but is the bonus content on the Target DVD shown as a single installment, or 8 separate chapters??

I purchased just the standard TLK DVD/BRD/Digital combo ($20) on release day, but wasn't aware the Target version had this. I don't want to purchase another whole copy just for this, but if I could somehow get the bonus DVD by itself, that would be good enough.

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Knowing what you enjoy from your posts you might find some fun in it. That’s not a dig that’s a compliment. Like I just said just I rewatched it and it’s not the worst thing ever.

Thanks for the response. I've seen the series, from day one when it first was on go90 over a year ago, so I'm familiar with it. I just like collecting things on DVD/BRD, that are part of my overall interests even if they are terrible.

Honestly I was not happy with Combiner Wars, simply because Combiners are my favorite part of the whole TF mythology, and this In my opinion, did them a great disservice.

I know its overall length is roughly 40 mins, but is the bonus content on the Target DVD shown as a single installment, or 8 separate chapters??

I purchased just the standard TLK DVD/BRD/Digital combo ($20) on release day, but wasn't aware the Target version had this. I don't want to purchase another whole copy just for this, but if I could somehow get the bonus DVD by itself, that would be good enough.

Oh my bad I thought you meant you hadn’t seen it.

Like I said it’s just a bonus feature. When I got it and opened it I said “where the disc?!” Becuase it said on the cover target exclusive bonus disc but it’s not. it’s actually just a feature on the standard bonus disc and to my knowledge the other retail versions had a second disc. Maybe I’m wrong.

Randomhero wrote:Like I said it’s just a bonus feature. When I got it and opened it I said “where the disc?!” Becuase it said on the cover target exclusive bonus disc but it’s not. it’s actually just a feature on the standard bonus disc and to my knowledge the other retail versions had a second disc. Maybe I’m wrong.

You still haven't answered his question. Is it presented as one single "movie" edited together, or as the eight individual chapters that it was originally released as online?

We have a new poster for the upcoming Transformers animated series sequel to Combiner Wars, produced between Hasbro and Machinima once more, and featuring a revamped cast for almost all the characters involved: Titans Return is about to strike! The poster, mirrored below from the Machinima Facebook page, features Metroplex and the name of its voice actor, Nolan North, much like the previous one we newsed of Emissary and Jason David Frank - teased as being ready to fight Trypticon. Check it out below, and join us in waiting for the series as it streams for US audiences on the go90 app, and possibly the rest of the world on one of the official YouTube channels, as of November 14th.

Watch Metroplex take on Trypticon in Transformers: Titans Return only on go90 11/14.

This is either some generic building or Fort Max

You can see how bad the animation is going to be from this poster or at the very least it's very low rez.

Horrible poster regardless with the lack of scale and bad presentation but unlike many others I'll be giving the sequel a chance even if the first is probably the worst transformers screen media.

I like Nolan as a voice actor, so I'm hoping his Metroplex voice goes good.

Just out of pure speculation.....and based on last years CW series.

I'm guessing that in the first episode there will be an *epic* battle between Metroplex & Trypticon (by epic I mean the battle between Menasor and Computron) , that will result in Metroplex either being severely damaged, or destroyed. The entire middle of the series will have Windblade, Optimus, and Megatron looking for Emissary, while Trypticon runs amok on Cybertron Godzilla style, he might even stomp a few combiners along the way. Eventually at some point, maybe even the last episode, Fortress Maximus will show up and defeat Trypticon.

I'm really hoping this isn't the case but....if it does go down this way, just remember...

37 second mark

That... That sounds extremely plausible.

The Titans Return! ... in the last 5 minutes

Kurona wrote:The Titans Return! ... in the last 5 minutes

Nah, that's when the power of the primes will save the day and set up the final part of the trilogy!

Oh and I forgot...Mistress of Flame will have twice as many staff *doinks* this time around, and Rodimus will do something stupid. I wonder who will replace Starscream on the council? The only other new character we know of is Perceptor...who I admit I have no idea what his purpose will be.

*edit*

It just came to me. Wouldn't it be awesome if Perceptor was the Raymond Burr of this series? Just to observe and report everything Trypticon is doing

o.supreme wrote:Oh and I forgot...Mistress of Flame will have twice as many staff *doinks* this time around, and Rodimus will do something stupid. I wonder who will replace Starscream on the council? The only other new character we know of is Perceptor...who I admit I have no idea what his purpose will be.

*edit*

It just came to me. Wouldn't it be awesome if Perceptor was the Raymond Burr of this series? Just to observe and report everything Trypticon is doing

Based on your plot prediction, I assumed Perceptor would be the one who tells Optimus/Windblade/Megatron about Emissary and initiates their need to find him.

I believe your prediction is way more plausible, and makes sense, but as a Godzilla fan, I just thought it would be funny.

Maybe Perceptor will take Megatron's role as the only good character this time!

Kurona wrote:Maybe Perceptor will take Megatron's role as the only good character this time!

W-Why would you deprive Megatron of his one endearing quality?

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Maybe Perceptor will take Megatron's role as the only good character this time!

W-Why would you deprive Megatron of his one endearing quality?

Because you just know he's gonna lose it. Lightning can't strike twice

I thought it was already announced that Megatron would be back with the same actor as before?

Kurona wrote:Maybe Perceptor will take Megatron's role as the only good character this time!

It depends. If I can get past the fact that it's Will Wheaton, maybe...(he did good as Aqualad in the 2000's Teen Titans series)...but after his many appearances on The Big Bang Theory, its going to be hard not to laugh, unless he plays it completely straight.

Deadput wrote:I thought it was already announced that Megatron would be back with the same actor as before?

That has nothing to do with the plot direction they may take him in.

Jon Bailey was good as Optimus, and of course we all know Peter Cullen IS Optimus...but that alone doesn't mean this show will be any good sadly. Though I'd pay to hear Cullen read the phone book, that alone doesn't guarantee this show will be any good.

Via the official Facebook page for media creators Machinima, we have another preview of the upcoming animated series Transformers: Titans Return - the sequel to Combiner Wars featuring the voice talents of a wide array of actors, from regulars Peter Cullen and Frank Welker to Jason David Frank, Wil Wheaton, MatPat and more. Inthe clip, embedded below and titled Size Does Matter, Adam Beechen and FJ DeSanto take a look at the main cast and the two big features of the new series: Metroplex and Trypticon, how they fight, what they mean, and how much fun the team have had in this second chapter of the Prime Wars Trilogy. Take a look for yourselves!

Our creative team sets the stage for Transformers: Titans Return launching on go90 11/14.

Show that matches the title Then Combiner Wars should have been named Angry Windblade

Looks like o.supreme's plot prediction may be more dead-on accurate than we were hoping.

Wow, that choppy, poorly animated quality for which its predecessor was so criticized is exactly what we want in any new show going forward

+ with all the complaints I bet the same complainers are still gonna watch the show! just so that they can complain even more

& here's me complaining about the complainers who are making all the complaints

Stuartmaximus wrote:+ with all the complaints I bet the same complainers are still gonna watch the show! just so that they can complain even more

We cant let the show go to waste, lets at least have fun with it that way

BumbleDouche wrote:Wow, that choppy, poorly animated quality for which its predecessor was so criticized is exactly what we want in any new show going forward

I don't know... it looks a tiny bit better. Just a tiny bit. Very tiny. Like World's Smallest Transformers Ravage.

Two things:

1. I assume most of what we'll see is only a couple characters plus the Titans, with not much beyond that.

2. THAT FRICKING FRAME RATE SUCKS. I can see why they said "Don't blink, or you'll miss a very important part of Transformers history", because a whole scene feels like only 5 frames.

Stuartmaximus wrote:+ with all the complaints I bet the same complainers are still gonna watch the show! just so that they can complain even more

How are people supposed to legitimately criticise the show if they don't watch it? duh ...

Burn wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:+ with all the complaints I bet the same complainers are still gonna watch the show! just so that they can complain even more

How are people supposed to legitimately criticise the show if they don't watch it? duh ...

Called being a legit critic. You watch the show to **** on it.

From Machinima's official Facebook page, we have news of an upcoming trailer for the fast-approaching Transformers: Titans Return animated series! Following posters featuring the likes of Jason David Frank as Emissary and Nolan North as Metroplex, a behind-the-scenes video and even a preview clip dropped just a day ago, this new teaser promises a full-fledged trailer for the series in just two days' time!

The image simply depicts a stoic Optimus Prime, heavily based on his Generation 1 and Masterpiece design as in the prior Combiners Wars animated series, standing before the stormy wasteland that presents Machinima's vision of Cybertron. With the show set to drop just a week after the trailer itself, the teaser's message could not be more clear: if you're going to get hyped for this show, now is the time.

Machinima's Titans Return series is set to release soon, on the 14th of November. It stars voice talent ranging from series veterans Peter Cullen and Judd Nelson, to other well-known actors like Wil Wheaton, Michael Dorn and Jason David Frank, returning cast members Abby Trott and Jason Marnocha, and even YouTubers MatPat and DashieGames, along with many more. See the teaser for yourself down below, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com for the coming trailer as well as any other updates on the soon-to-be-released series!

Get ready Transformers fans! The trailer for Transformers: Titans Return drops in TWO days.

HOLY CRAPOLA!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS! THIS IS AS BIG AS THE CANON TIE IN BEAST WARS TO G-1! Now we get an addition to G-1 canon this time with the original voice cast members available, namely Cullen and Welker! Judd Nelson! (please be Rodimus, Please be Rodimus it'll be like 1986 all over again, but better!) wow....

This is literally the biggest news that I have ever heard!

Just when I thought I hade my collection planned out.... They Pull me back in!!

Ughh...my wallet just groaned...

skywarp-2 wrote:Ughh...my wallet just groaned...

ah, dude ... you'd better get out there quick then. Titans Return toys are nearly down and will soon make way for Power of the Primes.

skywarp-2 wrote:HOLY CRAPOLA!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS! THIS IS AS BIG AS THE CANON TIE IN BEAST WARS TO G-1! Now we get an addition to G-1 canon this time with the original voice cast members available, namely Cullen and Welker! wow....

This is literally the biggest news that I have ever heard!

Just when I thought I hade my collection planned out.... They Pull me back in!!

Ughh...my wallet just groaned...

Wait, is this seriously your first time hearing about this show? Did you miss out on its predecessor show, the eight-episode Combiner Wars?

Oh, you poor naive soul. So completely in the dark about how much of a dreadful schlock this show is gonna be if it's anything like it's predecessor.

And, no, Frank Welker is not in this show. Megatron is voiced by Jason Marnocha and thank goodness for that! Marnocha was the only good thing about the first show, so having him back is the one positive aspect about this dark blot of a show.

And it will have nothing to do with any of the G1 fiction from the 1980s. No ties to the cartoon, the movie, or the Marvel Comics. It's in its own little world of misery and mediocrity.

Sabrblade wrote:

skywarp-2 wrote:HOLY CRAPOLA!! THIS IS HUGE NEWS! THIS IS AS BIG AS THE CANON TIE IN BEAST WARS TO G-1! Now we get an addition to G-1 canon this time with the original voice cast members available, namely Cullen and Welker! wow....

This is literally the biggest news that I have ever heard!

Just when I thought I hade my collection planned out.... They Pull me back in!!

Ughh...my wallet just groaned...

Wait, is this seriously your first time hearing about this show? Did you miss out on its predecessor show, the eight-episode Combiner Wars?

Oh, you poor naive soul. So completely in the dark about how much of a dreadful schlock this show is gonna be if it's anything like it's predecessor.

And, no, Frank Welker is not in this show. Megatron is voiced by Jason Marnocha and thank goodness for that! Marnocha was the only good thing about the first show, so having him back is the one positive aspect about this dark blot of a show.

And it will have nothing to do with any of the G1 fiction from the 1980s. No ties to the cartoon, the movie, or the Marvel Comics. It's in its own little world of misery and mediocrity.

Yowch.

Not that I disagree, but, yowch.

whoa...I was excited..Yes I live under a rock..

I may get some of the figures, I just didn't know about this cartoon or the previous one, combiner wars because I was only focusing on 3rd party news and TLK stuff.. this story sure got my attention, On the details, I got some wrong, sorry. I must have misread thru fanboy-colored goggles..

skywarp-2 wrote:whoa...I was excited..Yes I live under a rock..

I may get some of the figures, I just didn't know about this cartoon or the previous one, combiner wars because I was only focusing on 3rd party news and TLK stuff.. this story sure got my attention, I must have misread thru fanboy-colored goggles..

Yeah, Combiner Wars turned out to be one of the worst Transformers cartoons we've ever gotten, with Megatron, as I mentioned, being the sole enjoyable aspect about it, as he was awesome and hilarious with his being all snarky and sarcastic to everyone.

We've so far been hoping that this sequel show, Titans Return, will be an improvement, but aside from the inclusion of some television actors (albeit, rather bizarrely-chosen ones) and the longer running time, there doesn't seem to be that much about it that looks all that better than the first show.

After all, the first show was advertised as being the "Game of Thrones of animation", and yet it turned out to be as bad as Transformers: Energon. So aside from a return of Jason Marnocha's Megatron, there doesn't look to be all that much to look forward to thus far in the new show.

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Combiner Wars turned out to be one of the worst Transformers cartoons we've ever gotten, with Megatron, as I mentioned, being the sole enjoyable aspect about it, as he was awesome and hilarious with his being all snarky and sarcastic to everyone.

Wrong.
Jon Bailey did a fantastic Optimus Prime and deserves the recognition.

Burn wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Combiner Wars turned out to be one of the worst Transformers cartoons we've ever gotten, with Megatron, as I mentioned, being the sole enjoyable aspect about it, as he was awesome and hilarious with his being all snarky and sarcastic to everyone.

Wrong.
Jon Bailey did a fantastic Optimus Prime and deserves the recognition.

He's done fantastic Optimus Primes outside of CW. In CW, he was adequate, but his true talent felt held back in restraint from reaching its full entertainment potential.

That one behind-the-scenes video he did about him and the other CW cast members recording their lines at Bang Zoom!, in which he did some fun little ad-libs in his Optimus voice, gave us way more of his talented range and skill than he got to perform in the show itself.

Yeah, he could have done a lot more, but instead they had this ridiculous notion that CW was well received so they upped the ante for TR.

I know a lot of fanboys are pissing their pants in excitement over Cullen being Prime again for it, but come on ... they had a guy doing a good voice, they could have given him another go instead of chucking him aside and throwing more cash around for a bigger name(s).