New Touch-up Added To Takara Classics

I will definitely buy classics now...

Along with two-packs, this will give collectors a chance to fill up some holes in their Classics line-up.

I'm going for a Megatron as long as there isn't a stupid orange cap on it

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I would probably change my Megatron and maybe Starscream. Prime and Bumblebee are fine as is.

Anime Astrotrain now?

Dr. Z wrote:Anime Astrotrain now?

Let's hope so, cause I'd be waaaay happier if they do that. I can't wait to see some pics/comparison shots of these guys. Just placed my pre-order for Megs and Starscream.

Interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing how these turn out - whether they're actually redecoing any of the figs (like Megatron) or just redoing paint apps (maybe making Starscream and Bumblebee, for instance, more G1ish).

I wonder if there's any chance, too, that Takara might release repaints that Hasbro aren't (full Seeker set, any body?) - they didn't get the Botcon exclusives, so maybe Takara will fill the gaps...

Bit of a pipe dream, maybe, but something to consider...

I'd get Megatron. I'd love to see a purple and grey Astrotrain...

as usual takara takes that extra step in quality that hasbro never does.

I pre-ordered 2 each of Megatron & Starscream since I suspect they'll have the most noticeable (and better) repaints.

Megatron is a no-brainer. ANYTHING would be better than the purple/green/orange NERF mess that Hasbro released, and it'll be nice to finally have a version that doesn't look so out of place with the other Classics.

I'm pretty happy with how Starscream currently looks, but won't say no to a version with a better face and maybe some deeper shades of red as opposed to the current burnt orange.

The current versions of Prime & Bumblebee are already perfect imo, so I'm not gonna pick up the Japanese versions. Not unless they do something drastic like give Prime chrome paint.

If they ever release Cliffjumper, I'll pay attention. I could see them losing the blue headlights in place of clear or black ones instead. Might be cool if they gave him a gun as well.

I put a pre-order on Starscream. At least until something local pops up.

If it's good, I'd go up to $40 on a G1 repaint of Megatron.

Kimmer wrote:as usual takara takes that extra step in quality that hasbro never does.

This is so not even the case since Armada's early days...

Better news than more Movie line repaints.

Except the black version of Arcee. She's just sweet!

A gray Astrotrain would be sweet.

I would so buy a repaint of Classics Megatron. I've grown tired of the ugly purple & green on him. Silver really is his color. Although he could be considered a shade of white, he's really more grey/silver. As long as they put a removable cap on the gun barrel, I'm good. I don't think there's much to do w/Prime. Starscream, yes, but ujst a little bit. This sounds pretty good to me.

Ramrider wrote:Interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing how these turn out - whether they're actually redecoing any of the figs (like Megatron) or just redoing paint apps (maybe making Starscream and Bumblebee, for instance, more G1ish).

I wonder if there's any chance, too, that Takara might release repaints that Hasbro aren't (full Seeker set, any body?) - they didn't get the Botcon exclusives, so maybe Takara will fill the gaps...

Bit of a pipe dream, maybe, but something to consider...

Dude, that's not an unreasonable thing to think, most people here seem to be very cynical when it comes o possibilities, I suppose its stemming from numerous let downs in he past..

most everyone thought they would just be the same thing that Hasbro released, but look what they have done now...!!! it's possible.. I would love a seeker 3 pack gift set!! and a seeker conehead 3-pack gift set!! Or a 2-pack with Rodimus and Ultra Magnus..

I hope they remold Optimus Prime's shoulder to include an autobot symbol to make him more g-1-ish, I wonder if they are modifying the paint to match the animation version a bit better???

Only time will tell...

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Yup. Just about every day someone, usually the same couple of people have to bring up the 2007 Botcon set.

JTKranix wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Yup. Just about every day someone, usually the same couple of people have to bring up the 2007 Botcon set.

Yep sure do!!! no you know what, that actually deserves a

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

If Takara desides to repaint Ramjet I cant see why its not posible for Dirge.As long as they use a different paint job then the Bot-con I dont think Hasbro would object much.

Here's hoping for a pretty grey Astrotrain!

got 2 starscreams and a megatron. If they take off that white stripe on bumblebee i might get him too! I have a feeling these are going to go very quickly

I'm all for a silver Megatron and a grey Astrotrain. Everything else I'm pretty happy with.

JTKranix wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Yup. Just about every day someone, usually the same couple of people have to bring up the 2007 Botcon set.

I very rarely ever bring this up. I just though if they are doing some stuff, that they could get away with doing it for Japan.

Damb, I thought they were just going to rerelease them. But if the paint schemes are totally different, I may have to get the Takara versions to keep my Classics collection complete.

Sunstar wrote:

JTKranix wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Yup. Just about every day someone, usually the same couple of people have to bring up the 2007 Botcon set.

I very rarely ever bring this up. I just though if they are doing some stuff, that they could get away with doing it for Japan.

That is okay Sunstar, we all know I continually bring it up!! that's my job, be upfront, let ya'll know when i'm pissed about something.. and Botcon 2007 for me will live in infamy!! But lets get a few things straight...

1. I like the Botcon figures from previous releases, and think the majority of them are wonderful..

2. Botcon 2007 was the only time I got upset, because of the characters produced and sold, which I firmly believe should have ended up in a mass release..

3. If Takara Tomy does them, I will forever be a TakTom fan!! I will then finally buy classics for my collection..and ease up on the Botcon 07 issue..

4. I have no hatred for those who went or support Botcon..

5. those who jump on others who say one little bad thing about funpub and Botcon toys and exclusives or scalping, they will always defend their purchase, so if the Takara Tomy classics run steps on their toes, Oh well.. I don't think we should be as gentle about it as they were to us who complained about the exclusives.. so only time will tell if we will get them..

6. I like to bitch about Botcon..

just kidding with that last one...

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so how long you think these will last? I think the starscreams will be the first to get sold out

skywarp-2 wrote:

Sunstar wrote:

JTKranix wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Ultra Prime wrote:

Sunstar wrote:I want Starscream and maybe we can get the tc, thrust and dirge.

Hate to burst your bubble Sunstar but there won't be a Classics Thrust and Dirge made. Hasbro already said that won't happen so that the value of the exclusives aren't tarnished. You'll just have to kitbash ones or pay through the nose on ebay.

I've tried to be helpful by saying things like that too.

Now it's just open flame, because no one apparently believes words that come straight from Hasbro anyway.

Yup. Just about every day someone, usually the same couple of people have to bring up the 2007 Botcon set.

I very rarely ever bring this up. I just though if they are doing some stuff, that they could get away with doing it for Japan.

That is okay Sunstar, we all know I continually bring it up!! that's my job, be upfront, let ya'll know when i'm pissed about something.. and Botcon 2007 for me will live in infamy!! But lets get a few things straight...

1. I like the Botcon figures from previous releases, and think the majority of them are wonderful..

2. Botcon 2007 was the only time I got upset, because of the characters produced and sold, which I firmly believe should have ended up in a mass release..

3. If Takara Tomy does them, I will forever be a TakTom fan!! I will then finally buy classics for my collection..and ease up on the Botcon 07 issue..

4. I have no hatred for those who went or support Botcon..

5. those who jump on others who say one little bad thing about funpub and Botcon toys and exclusives or scalping, they will always defend their purchase, so if the Takara Tomy classics run steps on their toes, Oh well.. I don't think we should be as gentle about it as they were to us who complained about the exclusives.. so only time will tell if we will get them..

6. I like to bitch about Botcon..

just kidding with that last one...

I don't think it's impossible for Takara to release the other seekers. As long as they're not a 100% match of the BotCon set (I.E. repainted a different shade, Kanji symbols, etc) I think they'd be well within their rights to release those figures. Besides, we've seen that Japan reissues all six seekers in the past...there's nothing to stop them from making their own if they wanted to.

Will they? I have no idea, so don't bank anything on my words here.

Can they? Yes, with certain changes, but yes.

So keep your fingers crossed.

There's nothing wrong with having a little bit of hope, about something.

Different paint jobs or not, Hasbro will NOT let Takara produce the exclusive BotCon Seekers. They were exclusive characters, not exclusive paint jobs. And I'll bet a million bucks that one of the first requests/demands from Fun Publications was that if they invest in making these characters exclusives, that someone like Takara are never allowed to do it.

It's shocking how many people continue to think that because *they* think it could or should happen, that it will... even though Hasbro themselves have expressly said it won't.

Yeah it sucks that some people missed out on these figures while some of us others have multiple sets, but it's nevertheless annoying to see EVERY SINGLE thread about Classics get worn down by the constant harping about Thundercracker, Thrust & Dirge. It's not going to happen. If it did, it would immediately make the entire point of BotCon convention exclusives moot, thus turning off MANY potential return customers, attendees & fanclub members.

Deal with it and move on already.

So walking away thinking i got THE classics Starscream when it 1st popped out was da shizzle but nizzled, is now being fizzled. Nice.

cellshock wrote:Different paint jobs or not, Hasbro will NOT let Takara produce the exclusive BotCon Seekers. They were exclusive characters, not exclusive paint jobs. And I'll bet a million bucks that one of the first requests/demands from Fun Publications was that if they invest in making these characters exclusives, that someone like Takara are never allowed to do it.

It's shocking how many people continue to think that because *they* think it could or should happen, that it will... even though Hasbro themselves have expressly said it won't.

Yeah it sucks that some people missed out on these figures while some of us others have multiple sets, but it's nevertheless annoying to see EVERY SINGLE thread about Classics get worn down by the constant harping about Thundercracker, Thrust & Dirge. It's not going to happen. If it did, it would immediately make the entire point of BotCon convention exclusives moot, thus turning off MANY potential return customers, attendees & fanclub members.

Deal with it and move on already.

these are just people's musings, opinions and wishful thinking. there's nothing wrong with that, and if you read most of the posts regarding exclusives here (most recently Autobot032's) none of them sounded like they were trying to rant or something. just a little (ok, maybe a lot) wishful thinking on their parts. ain't nothing wrong with a little dream (even impossible ones) - the world would be worse off without dreamers.

if you don't want to hear about people WISHING that this time around Takara would produce the rest of the seekers, then you always have the option of not reading this thread and not posting here.

what's more annoying than people wishing about Takara Botcon exclusives are people telling off these dreamers to move on because they were unfortunate enough to miss out on these.

cellshock wrote:Different paint jobs or not, Hasbro will NOT let Takara produce the exclusive BotCon Seekers. They were exclusive characters, not exclusive paint jobs. And I'll bet a million bucks that one of the first requests/demands from Fun Publications was that if they invest in making these characters exclusives, that someone like Takara are never allowed to do it.

It's shocking how many people continue to think that because *they* think it could or should happen, that it will... even though Hasbro themselves have expressly said it won't.

Yeah it sucks that some people missed out on these figures while some of us others have multiple sets, but it's nevertheless annoying to see EVERY SINGLE thread about Classics get worn down by the constant harping about Thundercracker, Thrust & Dirge. It's not going to happen. If it did, it would immediately make the entire point of BotCon convention exclusives moot, thus turning off MANY potential return customers, attendees & fanclub members.

Deal with it and move on already.

It wouldnt be the first time that Hasbro has disapointed their collector fans.........and I doubt that many fans would give up on buying TF just cause Takara made a few Botcon exclusive characters.
And by the way the figures may have been exclusive toys but they were not exclusive characters.They were all G1 characters and from what I understand about the agrement between Hasbro and Takara there is no G1 character that is completly off limits.They may not be able to you the same modifide mold for Thrust of the same paint app on Dirge or Thundercracker but they should be able to use the characters.

I suspect that if Takara repainted the Seeker molds in different colours and maybe if they gave them different names then they might be able to do it. The other day, however, Counterpunch raised the point that the mold for Thrust's wings is owned by FunPub, and I don't see them allowing Takara to use those wings if they're supposed to be exclusive to the BotCon set. Of course, Takara could mold new wings but would they bother?

Maybe we should all just wait and see. I'm not ruling anything out, I can see peoples pints about the funpub/Botcon stuff however I see no reason why Takara would not be able to produce their own versions so long as they were different to the US exclusives, whether the decide to do that or not is anyones guess. Personally I don't care that much either way as I'm not a massive seeker fan but it would be nice to see the main three get a general release, Thundercraker being an exclusive was IMO a kick in the teeth to most Seeker fans.

Yours AK

Prime Evil wrote:

Dr. Z wrote:Anime Astrotrain now?

Let's hope so, cause I'd be waaaay happier if they do that. I can't wait to see some pics/comparison shots of these guys. Just placed my pre-order for Megs and Starscream.

A purple bullet train... Well, I guess it can't be worse than the present Classics Megatron.

There's another factor to consider with the Classics jet mould- it's not in very good shape any more. The Botcon jets I encountered (mine and those of my roommates) had noticeably looser joints and interlocking pieces were a worse fit than on the Hasbro releases. Considering they've had three full and three partial runs already, I'm not sure how many more times the moulds will be usable.

-Nick

cellshock wrote:Different paint jobs or not, Hasbro will NOT let Takara produce the exclusive BotCon Seekers. They were exclusive characters, not exclusive paint jobs. And I'll bet a million bucks that one of the first requests/demands from Fun Publications was that if they invest in making these characters exclusives, that someone like Takara are never allowed to do it.

It's shocking how many people continue to think that because *they* think it could or should happen, that it will... even though Hasbro themselves have expressly said it won't.

Yeah it sucks that some people missed out on these figures while some of us others have multiple sets, but it's nevertheless annoying to see EVERY SINGLE thread about Classics get worn down by the constant harping about Thundercracker, Thrust & Dirge. It's not going to happen. If it did, it would immediately make the entire point of BotCon convention exclusives moot, thus turning off MANY potential return customers, attendees & fanclub members.

Deal with it and move on already.

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zemper wrote:if you don't want to hear about people WISHING that this time around Takara would produce the rest of the seekers, then you always have the option of not reading this thread and not posting here.

Hehe, if the thread was titled "Wave 1 Japanese Classics Getting G1 Repaints... Plus More Tired Ranting & Raving About The BotCon 2007 Seekers", then I would have chosen not to read it. The problem is that not all of us are psychics, and therefore don't know what we're going to read until it's already happened.

what's more annoying than people wishing about Takara Botcon exclusives are people telling off these dreamers to move on because they were unfortunate enough to miss out on these.

No, trust me, the whiners are far more annoying, especially when they start going off about bunches of possible future repaints based on news of only 4 confirmed figures that still aren't even out yet. Add to that, it's been about 5-6 months since we found out what the BotCon exclusives were going to be, yet people are *still* throwing tantrums about it.

I fully realize it was a dirty move not to release those figures via mas retail, but the fact still remains that people *did* have the opportunity to buy them even if they didn't go to the convention - something that could have just as easily never happened. What's worse, keeping them as exclusives for attendee's only or allowing any Joe Somebody to also order them from anywhere in the world MONTHS before the convention ever actually happened?

The only realistic "new Seeker" possibility I see coming from Japan's release of the Classics is that we *might* get a Sunstorm repaint out of them alongside more G1 styled paint jobs of the existing figures already released by Hasbro, but that's it. But at this stage, with the confirmation of only 4 characters - each of which happen to be movie characters - I'm not speculating or holding my breath. For all we know, these could be the *only* Classics they release.