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News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:27 am

I think this is a good move. There are plenty of people who have started their Classicsverse collections since the last release. Combiner Wars brought a lot of people in.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:49 am

Delicon wrote:I think this is a good move. There are plenty of people who have started their Classicsverse collections since the last release. Combiner Wars brought a lot of people in.

Excellent point, and it'll go with the other movie related Platinum sets.

Well, I look forward to hunting for his minicon at least. Platinums seems to be ironically hit and miss in regard to their paintjobs. Springer looks to be the best version yet, but they don't know how to draw flames, so both Hot Rod and Rodimus look bad. I wonder how Unicron will look - great or terrible. Either way I'm not sure I want to replace my Amazon Unicron.

Hopefully the box art will look like the toy. It's a small pet peeve, but I dislike it when the art doesn't match the toy and we've gotten a lot of that lately.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:55 am

Seibertron wrote:And yet they still haven't done his colors right yet. Hopefully the 4th "special" edition is the charm!

What exactly are you looking for in a Unicron color scheme? I was putting together thoughts and pics and stumbled on a post from Megatronus with pretty much all my thoughts. Both the 2010 and Amazon Unicron's have their merits as he points out:

megatronus wrote:I own both, and each has their own allure. This site actually has great galleries comparing them. Here's a prime shot:

The problem is that the movie uses a wide ranging palette of colors. I really think it's a matter of personal preference. Compare the above to each of these shots from the movie:

Some shots have more grey, others more blue. Also, the oranges vary. The two versions tease those differences out into two equally serviceable versions.

Once I have the space to do so, I plan on displaying both. 2010 Unicron in planet-mode, since the black wash on the round planet cover-pieces really pop and highlights the mold's details. Amazon Unicron in robot-mode, since I think that version meshes a bit better with my Classics/Generations toys.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:00 am

For me, I'll probably buy any Unicron they release. But what I'd specifically like to see from the Armada mold is that stupid clear hand replaced with solid colored plastic. That's annoyed me since day 1.

I'm interested to see how he'll differ from 2010 and Amazon though :-?

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:07 am

shajaki wrote:For me, I'll probably buy any Unicron they release. But what I'd specifically like to see from the Armada mold is that stupid clear hand replaced with solid colored plastic. That's annoyed me since day 1.

I'm interested to see how he'll differ from 2010 and Amazon though

I probably took the batteries out ages ago, but isn't that hand clear because it lights up?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:16 am

Cobotron wrote:
shajaki wrote:For me, I'll probably buy any Unicron they release. But what I'd specifically like to see from the Armada mold is that stupid clear hand replaced with solid colored plastic. That's annoyed me since day 1.

I'm interested to see how he'll differ from 2010 and Amazon though
I probably took the batteries out ages ago, but isn't that hand clear because it lights up?

Yeah. But I crave uniformity, and TFTM Unicron didn't have a glowing hand :lol:

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:28 am

I hope this wont be $150-200 if its around $120 Ill get it

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:28 pm

shajaki wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
shajaki wrote:For me, I'll probably buy any Unicron they release. But what I'd specifically like to see from the Armada mold is that stupid clear hand replaced with solid colored plastic. That's annoyed me since day 1.

I'm interested to see how he'll differ from 2010 and Amazon though
I probably took the batteries out ages ago, but isn't that hand clear because it lights up?
Yeah. But I crave uniformity, and TFTM Unicron didn't have a glowing hand

Plus, it'd be a way for hasbro to cut even more costs, I'd think it'd be an easy choice for them to gouge even more money out of the mold >:oP

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:00 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
shajaki wrote:For me, I'll probably buy any Unicron they release. But what I'd specifically like to see from the Armada mold is that stupid clear hand replaced with solid colored plastic. That's annoyed me since day 1.

I'm interested to see how he'll differ from 2010 and Amazon though
I probably took the batteries out ages ago, but isn't that hand clear because it lights up?
Yeah. But I crave uniformity, and TFTM Unicron didn't have a glowing hand

Plus, it'd be a way for hasbro to cut even more costs, I'd think it'd be an easy choice for them to gouge even more money out of the mold

Inflation mixed with a collectors oriented market =\= price gouging.

Personally, it would have paid more if they released a more movie accurate version when they first released it. So yeah, I'll pay more now. Go ahead Hasbro. Charge what you need to do that you can keep making transformers I want to buy. Go ahead. I'm cool with it.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:26 pm

Interesting...Fitting for the 30th anniversary for TF:TM. I wonder after 10 years, if we are going to finally get Unicron in an IDW comic?

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:48 pm

o.supreme wrote:Interesting...Fitting for the 30th anniversary for TF:TM. I wonder after 10 years, if we are going to finally get Unicron in an IDW comic?

IDW has stated that they want to stay away from the "religious" stuff with Transformers, so Primus and Unicron haven't been a part of the modern stories they're telling. However, in so far as Unicron is (or used to be) a "multiversial singular entity," I believe the "Darkness" of the "Dead Universe" in the IDW comics is basically Unicron's manifestation in that corner of the multiverse.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:56 pm

I guess... I mean look at TF:TM. Unicron doesn't have to have anything to do with spirituality. Personally I never thought of Unicron or Primus as "gods", merely as beings of extreme power, in the case of Unicron, destruction.

But hey, I'm good with that either way, just seems like a missed opportunity.

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:10 pm

Up at BBTS for $170 USD, and is apparently limited edition.

News Credits: 4543 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:29 pm

Optimizzy wrote:I hope this wont be $150-200 if its around $120 Ill get it

It will be upwards of 150$ 100%. Robot kingdowm is always the cheapest price for these. Case in point: Bigbadtoystore has it up now for 170$.

BUT you can wait for a discount if you dont mind the chance of it selling out before a discount happens.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:30 pm

Autobot N wrote:Up at BBTS for $170 USD, and is apparently limited edition.

Indeed it has. There's your MSRP folks.

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:25 pm

shajaki wrote:
Autobot N wrote:Up at BBTS for $170 USD, and is apparently limited edition.
Indeed it has. There's your MSRP folks.

Eh. It's worth it to me.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:26 pm

Lol and behold, at the re-release of the exact same Amazon Unicron, but sold at TWICE if not TRIPLE the price the original went for. >:oP

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:29 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Lol and behold, at the re-release of the exact same Amazon Unicron, but sold at TWICE if not TRIPLE the price the original went for.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The final design has not been revealed

News Credits: 639 · by **ScottyP** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:54 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Interesting...Fitting for the 30th anniversary for TF:TM. I wonder after 10 years, if we are going to finally get Unicron in an IDW comic?

IDW has stated that they want to stay away from the "religious" stuff with Transformers, so Primus and Unicron haven't been a part of the modern stories they're telling. However, in so far as Unicron is (or used to be) a "multiversial singular entity," I believe the "Darkness" of the "Dead Universe" in the IDW comics is basically Unicron's manifestation in that corner of the multiverse.

I hate to be this guy, but on Primus, you're just flat out incorrect on this:

That's not just a tag line for those covers, Primus has been brought up plenty since 2012.

Additionally, characters such as Drift, Star Saber, and even Skids have religious tendencies which have been explored.

As for Unicron, well, I'll wait for someone else to link to my now a bit out-of-date thread about that, but there are theories :-?

Also, I want the Mini-con in this upcoming Platinum release to be Bug General colors without flaky blue Bug General vac metal chrome. Let's do it. Let's dream the dream.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:20 pm

Hmmm, thanks for the heads up on that, ScottyP. I could swear I've read that about the IDW comics wanting to stay away from the "religious" stuff, but maybe it just meant in the sense of having literal "gods" active in the story and influencing the universe. Many characters seem to doubt that the ancient stories of Primus are even true, and Primus' appearances so far in the comics have been relegated to visualized legends as narrated by other bots in the present day. If we do get a "Unicron" at some point in IDW, I'm fairly certain he will be linked to the Dead Universe.

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:27 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:Hmmm, thanks for the heads up on that, ScottyP. I could swear I've read that about the IDW comics wanting to stay away from the "religious" stuff,

You most likely read that from either here or from other sources it got that info from:

The IDW universe is the confusing one. Writer Simon Furman outright said that the IDW universe would have "no Primus. No Unicron". In accordance with this, the Furman-penned Stormbringer, rather than have Transformers swear by Primus, instead had them swear by Primacron, but a monkeywrench was thrown into the works when Primus's name was heard being taken in vain in Eric Holmes's Megatron Origin #4. Furman attempted to justify this on his blog by claiming that this was not the Primus, but simply "something or someone" called Primus that had existed some point. [2]

However, the next paragraph explains the change of mind about Primus for IDW's comics:

With Furman's removal as the primary architect of the IDW universe, things got changed: "Chaos Theory Part 2" by James Roberts refers to a Primus. However, he is not only referred to as a being that Optimus doesn't believe in, he's mentioned in conjunction with two other gods, Mortilus and Adaptus, that Optimus also didn't believe in. This then led to a whole new version of the Primus creation myth in the 2012 More Than Meets The Eye annual: Primus was the first god who split himself into five separate gods, and he had taken the form of Vector Sigma after a vicious battle against Mortilus. Later on, Thirteen Primes come to power on Cybertron, ruling thirteen tribes. Alpha Trion, one of these Thirteen mentions that they possessed a bond to Primus.

by **Stealth Claw** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:35 pm

I have the platinum set with prime and megs being dropped of by usp tomorrow :-D

iv never had a non movie megatron or optimus toy, im so excited to have the classics optimus mold its crazy!

wanted to let the world know how excited I am

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:49 pm

Stealth Claw wrote:I have the platinum set with prime and megs being dropped of by usp tomorrow iv never had a non movie megatron or optimus toy, im so excited to have the classics optimus mold its crazy! wanted to let the world know how excited I am

Glad you're excited. they are both great toys. HAVE FUN!

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:51 pm

Cobotron wrote:
Stealth Claw wrote:I have the platinum set with prime and megs being dropped of by usp tomorrow iv never had a non movie megatron or optimus toy, im so excited to have the classics optimus mold its crazy! wanted to let the world know how excited I am
Glad you're excited. they are both great toys. HAVE FUN!

I concur. If you never had the molds before, this is a great set to have! ;)^

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:55 pm

The only Platinum Edition release I'm chompin' at the bit for right now is the "The Transformers: The Movie" five character "Autobot Heroes" set, and then only really for a better painted G1 Ultra Magnus. I still don't care for the Takara version with its red thighs. The regular Hasbro retail version is okay, but the metallic blue on this new Platinum Edition Version just looks gorgeous! The extra paint details for more G1 screen accuracy help a lot too. The rest of the set will probably become hand-me-downs to my nephew, unless I like a few like Blurr or Kup enough to replace my Hasbro Generations and "Autobot Warriors" versions respectively. I'm already perfectly satisfied with my Takara Legends Arcee and Springer.