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News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:45 pm

Amelie wrote:Ok. I am ready to see the proposed Rodimus and Galvatron two pack now - I have soothing music, a meal, candlelit table and open wine ready it.

Where'd this news come from?

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:46 pm

shajaki wrote:
Amelie wrote:Ok. I am ready to see the proposed Rodimus and Galvatron two pack now - I have soothing music, a meal, candlelit table and open wine ready it.
Where'd this news come from?

Way back in the thread.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:49 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:boxart models don't match the designs of the toys.

Do they ever?

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:17 pm

william-james88 wrote:Lastmaximal on Allspark, who brought us the very first image of the 2016 Platinum Optimus vs Megatron set, finally also took pictures of both the cover of the box and the toys inside. He/she also precises that the toy was selling in the specialty store for about US $100, which is the estimated price point.

The cover is a re-enactment of the final battle between Optimus and Megatron in the 1986 Transformers film and the special stamp on the cover marks this as part of the commemoration of that film. This posits that both the Megatron and Optimus toys are supposed to reference this scene and those G1 decos, at least for their robot modes.

aw tell me it's not something like that bloody Nerf Gun type Megatron?

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News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:21 pm

Yes it is Nerfatron

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:21 pm

And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:37 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.

happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.

& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way

but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:44 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.

happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.

& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way

but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).

G1 Megatron is legally considered a fire arm replica and thus can't be released as is. In fact, Hasbro toyed with the thought of reissuing, for the US market, in purple and orange back in the day. Guess what: didn't fly.

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:47 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.

happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.

& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way

but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).

to be fair, this is about the robot modes, and this megatron honours the G1 deco in robot mode more than the original version of the mold did.

by **1984forever** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:49 pm

So much fail in this set!

Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.

A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:53 pm

1984forever wrote: All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.

Pretty sure kids wouldnt be buying this.

Plus, if you want some G1 themed fun, you can just get last year's tank megatron and pair him with the upcoming gen PMOP

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:58 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And it is. You should be happy, as that's the only gun Megatron we'll ever have.

happy! HAPPY!! it's a bloody abomination! & doesn't accurately demonstrate what the boxart is trying to represent............namely G1.

& YES i know coz of toy gun laws...that it has to look that way

but COME ON!!! you'd've thought that they would've allowed a G1 Megs at least for this set! since it's what the boxart is trying to tell you(since it's taken from the original animated movie).

G1 Megatron is legally considered a fire arm replica and thus can't be released as is. In fact, Hasbro toyed with the thought of reissuing, for the US market, in purple and orange back in the day. Guess what: didn't fly.

ah right...well....it would've been nice to have had a G1 Megs....which btw is weird? coz the small Megs from the Classics line(forms a pistol with an orange tip) i think you can still get online or somewhere? same with MP G1's & maybe any 3rd party ones too!

+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:01 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Plus, if you want some G1 themed fun, you can just get last year's tank megatron and pair him with the upcoming gen PMOP

This. Never thought about it, but it gives us Leader-class battles for the faction commanders! Good job Will!

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:08 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:
+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.

Its not related, platinum is not about them containing metal. Its just reissues. If the original toys had metal then the reissued toys will also have metal. If a toy only had plastic, the platinum reissue will also only have plastic. Thats all.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:10 pm

Stuartmaximus wrote:+ correct me if i'm wrong....isn't the Nerfatron all plastic? no metal? which is strange coz most(maybe not all.....like Trypticon) of these Platinum Edition figures have some metal on them! Blaster has metal pins/joints in his arms, his cassettes have metal parts on them, Perceptor has some metal on him, the Insecticons have metal on them too.

That's because they're original G1 toys from 1984-1985, which by nature have die cast metal as part of their original construction. Anything beyond 1986 is all plastic.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:10 pm

1984forever wrote:So much fail in this set!

Prime is levitating in the box to give the impression that he is the same size as Megatron, who is smushed down in the box and standing spread legged. All to fool kids into thinking that these two are evenly matched.

A Prime closer to his G1 self and a grey tank Megatron both in G1size would have been perfect

Dude what the heck does that even mean?

It's box art man it's not supposed to be accurate it's supposed to look cool like you know every other box art every other toy in the world does I mean look at this bionicle for example does he look like you can actually have him surf on lava or is it something to look cool?

And what the heck is G1 size So now G1 is also defined on what size they are you serious?

This Megatron is closer to the original gun Megatron then a tank is but your saying that in order to be as close to the G1 gun Megatron as we can we should use the tank Megatron instead of another gun Megatron genius I say!

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:26 pm

Either of the mostly silvery japanese redecos of Classics Megatron look more like the box art Megatron in colour scheme than this version does.

Easy pass for me. Still got original classics Prime for sentimental reasons and if I want G1 Prime vs G1 Megatron I'll get the recent Leader Megatron and the upcoming Leader Powermaster Prime. Bit big for my collection but far superior. Besides I always hated Megatron as a gun (especially modelled after one that shoots foam darts) and prefer him as a tank. It just makes more sense.

by **YoungPrime** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:12 pm

Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?

News Credits: 131 · by **no-one** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:20 pm

YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?

That's an interesting question. One would assume so considering Hasbro keeps setting the same MSRP, but then again it seems like these sets hit clearance or other sales fairly frequently. I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:21 pm

YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?

I certainly would if I had the money

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:23 pm

carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.

I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.

The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:29 pm

Amelie wrote:
carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.

I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.

The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?

There.

It's easy to say :michaelbay:

50% OFF

when the original price was double the more normal price from the start. So, when you buy a Platinum set on "clearance", you are actually paying the regular price. [-(

No way 70$CAN for the insecticons, 100$CAN for butterscotch Optimus, and 150$CAN for MP Butterscotch Soundwave are real and honest clearace prices. >:oP

News Credits: 4836 · by **william-james88** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:31 pm

YoungPrime wrote:Q:Are the masses actually paying those ridiculous prices for these Platinum sets?

Good question, so I did some digging and the answer is yes... but in due time.
Every platinum edition goes out of stock within 2 years time it seems. Sometimes they are ridiculously priced, sometimes they arent and its not always the reasonable ones that go out of stock. Platinum predaking is more than reasonably priced at 100$ but is still available while the Farmageddon set is a crappy deal at 100$ but it sold out.

Here is what sold out at different places:

Platinum Blaster and Perceptor sold out at Target at 100$

The Coneheads sold out at BBTS at 85$

Year of the Snake Omega Supreme and Optimus sold out at BBTS at 170$

Platinum United Autobot 5 pack sold out at TFSource at 160$ (the platinum dinobots are way cheaper than that and you get just as much toy)

There are only 6 Platinum Triplechanger sets at Amazon.ca selling for $75 cdn

All Platinums have sold out at Toysrus.ca

So yes, these sell.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:(...)

All Platinums have sold out at Toysrus.ca

So yes, these sell.

They don't in stores. At my local TrU, all platinum sets are still there, like a locust swarm, on "clearance". Those shelves are not cooling down.

by **YoungPrime** » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:37 pm

Amelie wrote:
carytheone wrote:I'd be curious as to what some of the more savvy money crunchers have to say.

I'd say that since Hasbro get paid by the toy shop, rather than the customer that shops are ordering enough sets every year for Hasbro to consider them a success.

The stores must be earning enough profit to keep ordering them, despite the clearance prices. Maybe the inflated initial price is just there to earn a quick buck and the reduced price still earns a profit?

Yeah, given the regular cost for Voyager Class I could see them on clearance for 40%-50% off and they could still turn a profit depending on what they paid Hasbro for them and how many they sold when they hit stores at the higher rate.

For anyone with more sense than dollars it's just a matter of playing the waiting game or in my case getting lucky on ebay or toy fair/convention since All I'm interested in is that OP figure.