The Energon Pub

[Sabrblade]

And subtitles are not the same thing as Closed Captions.

[Regimus Prime]

I originally had preordered this set but cancelled right before it was shipped. I came to my senses after considering the 79.99 price point. By chance I was on Amazon tonight and saw it listed at 29.99. That works for me. 19.99 for the blu-ray and 10.00 for the statue, or vice versa, that's a price a fan can't pass up

[BERSEKAEL]

I finally got mine and is just amazing, so I am dropping couple pictures here. the blu ray dvd has different cover presentation for the 3 figurines pack promotion and the grimlock-optimus set, besides the content is identical, and the statue is huge making more sense with bumblebee and stinger rather than optimus from the 3 figurines set.





<--- 3figurines set / Grimlock statue set --->

[Skywarp64]

And subtitles are not the same thing as Closed Captions.

You're right, I apologize. I just wanted one more opportunity to poke fun at AoE and bring up Chugway

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

I just watched the 2007 movie again. I can confirm that it's a better movie than AoE for a few reasons.

1: It has ONE (1) central story, and minor sub-plots that mesh almost flawlessly with that story.

2: It had the best Decepticon characters in any of the movies. Including the single best introduction scene of any of the movies.

3: Unlike the other movies, where they have a huge amount of funding for their CGI, the first film can get away with having a lot of humans in it because it costs a lot of money to animate a CGI model with tens of thousands of moving parts.

4: It had Decepticons instead of Vehicons.


Now, there are still MANY things that AoE does much better than the first film.

1: There's lots more focus on the actual stars of the film.

2: The Autobots are actually interesting characters. Even Bumblebee, I liked Bumblebee in this movie more than the others.

3: The other Autobots are confirmed dead. Including Wheelie, the Twins, and Jolt.

4: Drift. I love this version of Drift.

5: Crosshairs is Rattrap. Watch the movie again and watch some Beast Wars scenes with Rattrap in them. Seriously.

I'll be honest, this is all personal opinion. AoE is crap, the 2007 movie is also crap. In reality though, that's what these movies were always going to be. And I think it's getting to the point where we can't blame JUST Michael Bay and the writers, but we have to blame Hasbro too, and the production company, because they're the ones who okay all of this stuff.

[Sabrblade]

2: It had the best Decepticon characters in any of the movies.

There were Decepticon characters in these movies?

4: It had Decepticons instead of Vehicons.

No movie has had Vehicons.[/petpeeve]

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

2: It had the best Decepticon characters in any of the movies.

There were Decepticon characters in these movies?

4: It had Decepticons instead of Vehicons.

No movie has had Vehicons.[/petpeeve]

Well... they're more characters in the first movie than they were in any movie after!

And I thought they were called Vehicons in AoE? Where the hell did I hear that then? Eh, either way, they sure as hell aren't Decepticons. Galvatron.

[Sabrblade]

Well... they're more characters in the first movie than they were in any movie after!

More like "monsters" than "characters".

But then, that's pretty much the standard for the Decepticons of these movies. Savages instead of people.

And I thought they were called Vehicons in AoE? Where the hell did I hear that then? Eh, either way, they sure as hell aren't Decepticons. Galvatron.

"KSI Prototypes"

[Skywarp64]

I just watched the 2007 movie again. I can confirm that it's a better movie than AoE for a few reasons.

1: It has ONE (1) central story, and minor sub-plots that mesh almost flawlessly with that story.

2: It had the best Decepticon characters in any of the movies. Including the single best introduction scene of any of the movies.

3: Unlike the other movies, where they have a huge amount of funding for their CGI, the first film can get away with having a lot of humans in it because it costs a lot of money to animate a CGI model with tens of thousands of moving parts.

4: It had Decepticons instead of Vehicons.

I also like how, at the time of the first one, Optimus Prime hadn't yet devolved into the bloodthirsty, face-stealing psychopath we now know him as.

[ZeroWolf]

I just watched the 2007 movie again. I can confirm that it's a better movie than AoE for a few reasons.

1: It has ONE (1) central story, and minor sub-plots that mesh almost flawlessly with that story.

2: It had the best Decepticon characters in any of the movies. Including the single best introduction scene of any of the movies.

3: Unlike the other movies, where they have a huge amount of funding for their CGI, the first film can get away with having a lot of humans in it because it costs a lot of money to animate a CGI model with tens of thousands of moving parts.

4: It had Decepticons instead of Vehicons.

I also like how, at the time of the first one, Optimus Prime hadn't yet devolved into the bloodthirsty, face-stealing psychopath we now know him as.

The kids seem to like him though, and for Hasbro, thats the important thing.

[megatronus]

I finally got mine and is just amazing, so I am dropping couple pictures here. the blu ray dvd has different cover presentation for the 3 figurines pack promotion and the grimlock-optimus set, besides the content is identical, and the statue is huge making more sense with bumblebee and stinger rather than optimus from the 3 figurines set.

That's pretty darned cool! Nice catch!

I might need to get this set for myself, just for the figurine...

[Sabrblade]

I also like how, at the time of the first one, Optimus Prime hadn't yet devolved into the bloodthirsty, face-stealing psychopath we now know him as.

Yeah, he hadn't quite gotten to taking faces yet, taking the whole of Bonecrusher's head off instead.

By ROTF, he settled for just the faces.

[Skywarp64]

I also like how, at the time of the first one, Optimus Prime hadn't yet devolved into the bloodthirsty, face-stealing psychopath we now know him as.

Yeah, he hadn't quite gotten to taking faces yet, taking the whole of Bonecrusher's head off instead.

By ROTF, he settled for just the faces.

It's not a question of the method of killing, it's the question of frequency. You are what you repeatedly do. In the first one, Optimus decapitated but one Decepticon. In ROTF, he split Grindor's head in half, and also took off The Fallen's face. In DOTM, he brutally murdered a weakened Megatron and defenseless Sentinel Prime, both of whom ought to have been either taken prisoner or exiled. In AoE, he goes full berserk. He tears through a human facility with little to no regard for its workers, destroys thousands of dollars worth of research in the process, and ultimately holds up one of the higher-ranking employees at gunpoint. He then proceeds to storm savage Dinobots through Hong Kong and then set them loose on the world, which is supposed to be a happy ending but actually has horrifying implications.

Starting to see my point yet? This guy's slagging scary.

[Sabrblade]

In ROTF, he split Grindor's head in half, and also took off The Fallen's face.

Don't forget that he shot the disabled Demolishor in the face.

[Skywarp64]

In ROTF, he split Grindor's head in half, and also took off The Fallen's face.

Don't forget that he shot the disabled Demolishor in the face.

Ah yes, thank you. It's been too long since I've seen ROTF.



Or has it finally been long enough?

[Sabrblade]

And he tore through Shockwave in DOTM, along with several generic Cons he slashed his way through to get to Shockwave.

[Skywarp64]

And he tore through Shockwave in DOTM, along with several generic Cons he slashed his way through to get to Shockwave.

Yes, that too. Wow, I left out quite a bit.

[Sabrblade]

And he gunned down Attinger.

[Skywarp64]

And he gunned down Attinger.

Begging your pardon, but who's Attinger?

[Sabrblade]

And he gunned down Attinger.

Begging your pardon, but who's Attinger?

[Fires_Of_Inferno]

He also ripped through Driller in DoTM, the giant worm thing (or Rumble, as I like to incorrectly call him).

Bisected Lockdown's head.

And I think he also Destroyed Cybertron, or part of Cybertron.

[Skywarp64]

Begging your pardon, but who's Attinger?

Ah yes, Frasier Cane.

[Rodimus Prime]

And I think he also Destroyed Cybertron, or part of Cybertron.

Technically, that was Bumblebee. His destroying of the control pillar to the space bridge caused it to collapse and (supposedly?) destroy at least part of Cybertron.

[Madeus Prime]

Begging your pardon, but who's Attinger?

Ah yes, Frasier Cane.

He's listening.

[Rodimus Prime]

And it's Frasier CRANE.