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Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Oh no........I was expecting a giant crowd of people agreeing with you.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:25 pm

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:26 pm

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Oh no........I was expecting a giant crowd of people agreeing with you.
Oh, you'll see what I got planned in this. I do a thorough examination of BOTH the good and bad points of this movie.


I just gotta finish the darn thing. I'm at the part where the Dinobots first appear, so I'm almost done. Real life issues just keep pushing back its completion. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Convoy » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:15 pm

Threads like this make the live action movies worth while.
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That review was so funny I've watched it three times already. I'm a little surprised they didn't have an explosion montage. But that probably would've been over an hour long.
I haven't seen the movie yet and don't intend to. I hate to add to the hate but I watched DOTM twice and if threatened by death I couldn't tell you what it was about. The only way I can watch ROTF is with the RiffTrax. You know, the Mystery Science Theater 3000 guys?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:18 pm

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megatronus wrote:Oh god this thread. I can't even.
You think it's bad now, wait till my review finally gets done and posted. Image



Oh no........I was expecting a giant crowd of people agreeing with you.
Oh, you'll see what I got planned in this. I do a thorough examination of BOTH the good and bad points of this movie.


SlyTF1 says you're wrong about the bad points so just leave them out because you're wrong.

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblevivisector » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:32 pm

On the Ultimate Doom analogy: (Sorry I'm too tired to cherry-pick a brief quote)

FINALLY! The main thing I've gotten sick of in the negative opinions about AofE (that don't just dive into knee-jerk Bay-bashing) is people declaring "they didn't do the Dinobots right" without taking so much as a sentence to cite any concrete examples of TF stories they should have drawn from instead, as if it goes without saying which of the disparate depictions of Dinobots over the decades is the definitive one. This has just become most intelligent thread I've seen on the matter to date, so thank you, all of you.

For me, the Dinobots are among the few TFs for which characterizing them "right" = "the way Furman wrote them for Marvel", period. And since I long ago accepted that the dynamics of these movies make that impossible, Bay can just do whatever the Hell he wants with them AFAIC. Dumb animals that need to be broken like horses? Whatever, fine. Was it really that much less dignified than their cartoon portrayals? In a similar vein, I prefer the Primus origin in general, but the Quints are a better fit for the movies.

As for the trailer: the Sears Tower being a mistake?!? What they talkin' 'bout, Willis? China having their own Sears Tower was just more hilarious commentary on cheap knock-offs! Now, I LOVE Knock-Offs, but even I had a good laugh at that, just like I loved AofE, but this video was funnier than I thought it'd be. (Haven't been that impressed by their stuff in the past)
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:33 pm

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For "once"? :P
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:37 pm

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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:07 am

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Man, this thread was an entertaining read. Don't feed the trolls, duly noted.

Back at the point in hand, the video was REALLY funny. I'm a sucker for these honest trailer things and Jon continues to amaze me with that impression of his. Never noticed how much product placement was there until it was pointed out in that fashion. Was rather surprised at how much I missed when I was watching it.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby BERSEKAEL » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:11 am

that honest trailer, is honestly CRAP... I saw the movie twice on cinema, plus got already my blueray copy, and I can tell, IS EPIC MOVIE! :michaelbay:


... the guy who did that "trailer" should look for job and let someone else awesomeness alone
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:16 am

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BERSEKAEL wrote:that honest trailer, is honestly CRAP... I saw the movie twice on cinema, plus got already my blueray copy, and I can tell, IS EPIC MOVIE! :michaelbay:


... the guy who did that "trailer" should look for job and let someone else awesomeness alone

The guy who wrote this "post" should look for a grammar guide and leave the English language alone.



For real, why do people have problems poking fun at the movies? Taking ourselves and our hobbies too seriously is bad news bears.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:23 am

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Burn wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
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You think it's bad now, wait till my review finally gets done and posted. Image



Oh no........I was expecting a giant crowd of people agreeing with you.
Oh, you'll see what I got planned in this. I do a thorough examination of BOTH the good and bad points of this movie.


SlyTF1 says you're wrong about the bad points so just leave them out because you're wrong.

Yeah that's right people, Sabrblade is wrong for once!
According to SlyTF1.


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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:11 am

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BERSEKAEL wrote:that honest trailer, is honestly CRAP... I saw the movie twice on cinema, plus got already my blueray copy, and I can tell, IS EPIC MOVIE! :michaelbay:


... the guy who did that "trailer" should look for job and let someone else awesomeness alone

The guy who wrote this "post" should look for a grammar guide and leave the English language alone.



For real, why do people have problems poking fun at the movies? Taking ourselves and our hobbies too seriously is bad news bears.


Okay, see... stuff like this? Not okay. I can't speak for him, but what if English isn't his first language? You were not only exhibiting trolling behavior, but ignorance as well. Even if English is his first language, it's not your place to point out another's shortcomings.

Do not do it again.

And BERSEKAEL, jON3.0 is one of us, the Seibertronian staff. He's a friend to the fandom and this was a job, you have no right to attack him or anyone else over a satirical comedy trailer. Regardless of one's opinion, we all have no right to attack each other over it. This is stupid and needs to stop. This is embarrassing, guys. Act right.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:09 am

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Autobot032 wrote:Okay, see... stuff like this? Not okay. I can't speak for him, but what if English isn't his first language? You were not only exhibiting trolling behavior, but ignorance as well. Even if English is his first language, it's not your place to point out another's shortcomings.

Do not do it again.

Eh, OK. If you say so.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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I'm glad this was front paged or I'd have missed it. Call me a hater but There were too many things I found wrong in this movie from the depiction of the girl, to the extra long human vs human fights to some horrible characterisations...

But I think the worse crime for me personally was the autobots' characterisation. Prime continued his descent into whatever it is he is becoming. Whilst the others came across as bitching little children. I felt no empathy or sympathy for them, almost began rooting for the bad guys. The dinobots were wasted too.

Re the product placement - it's to be expected these day but they did it so blatantly and in your face that it felt insulting. But I guess there's one word even the most ardent lovers of this film would not be able to use to describe it or Michael Bay's direction : Subtle.

On the other had I appreciate they tried give a more convoluted plot that might build into something more interesting in the next film. Some of the bad guys and comic relief weren't bad. Lockdown and Galvatron were more interesting than any of the other characters.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Fox Thiagarajan » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:12 am

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Was Stanley Tucci sipping the Shuhua milk a nod to Ken Jeong in DOTM rather than product placement?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Convoy » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:08 am

Drift082111 wrote:Was Stanley Tucci sipping the Shuhua milk a nod to Ken Jeong in DOTM rather than product placement?


Can't it be both?
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby tfcrafter » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:12 am

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
welcometothedarksyde wrote:
mirageandjazz1197 wrote:


This was one their least funny ones. Chinese voice in particular was obnoxious, and after all those same old Bay bashing, I expected some actual funny cast names, but nope.


Wow...that's how people talk in Mandarin, so now you're just being racist.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:24 am

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You know what? This back and forth and claims of racism, all of it needs to stop. Seriously. I really do not understand why you guys just feel a need to fight over a movie trailer.

Mirage & Jazz, stop provoking people, stop taking the bait and stop fighting with people. You choose to, you don't HAVE to. Knock it off!

I want everyone in this thread to behave themselves. You can voice your opinion, you can ignore the opinions of others and agree to disagree.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Apollo-XL5 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:15 am

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Apart from the two visual mistakes (which I did not even notice due to enjoying the movie), this was not a very good Honest Trailer. I have seen them do much better (I mean reusing the same jokes).

And I don't see why product placement is such a big deal, we live in a world where it is around us 24/7. So if movies and tv shows (that are trying to base themselves in a real-world environment) want to do this, then I have no problem with it.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:42 am

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Looks to me like most of the people who dislike this trailer for primarily its poking fun at the movie don't get the point of satire.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:46 am

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Apollo-XL5 wrote:Apart from the two visual mistakes (which I did not even notice due to enjoying the movie), this was not a very good Honest Trailer. I have seen them do much better (I mean reusing the same jokes).

And I don't see why product placement is such a big deal, we live in a world where it is around us 24/7. So if movies and tv shows (that are trying to base themselves in a real-world environment) want to do this, then I have no problem with it.


IMO, it really boils down to how product placement is added into a movie.

Done properly, it can be unobtrusive and effective, like the closeup of the bottle of whiskey shaking to illustrate the vibrations of the toppling building in DOTM (although why there's booze in the common area of an office is beyond me).

The scene with Tucci drinking his Shuhua milk on the rooftop was also done unobtrusively.

It gets blatant when you show several seconds of the street littered with Bud Light, and there's no explanation for it other than being product placement. Same rule as writing novels-- if you can take something out and it doesn't affect the story, it's dead weight. Just showing Walhberg drinking it would have sufficed. Product placement done well is subtle and blends into the background with still being noticeable.

With that said, I agree with you that product placement isn't a major deal breaker. Some of it could have been less obvious, though.
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Re: Age of Extinction Discussion Thread

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