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Editor wrote:#-o

what?

Dude, I'm not going to explain things to you.

I'm just surprised that the first image you were to post isn't a bad hackjob photoshop of the Sailor Senshi in KISS make-up.

And no that comment isn't an invatation to post such lunacy either.

Editor wrote:And suddenly i'm glad that PB images are blocked at my office.

So...do you have anything available?

So, Gundam 00 ends this Sunday...and I feel like making some half-assed predictions:

-Graham will show up during the final battle with Ribbons. (This, I think, is a given) I want to say he'll sacrifice himself.

-A-LAWS are finally rejected, (Again, that's a given) and Earth is handed over to the much less oppressive Federation Government. Celestial Being either retires, or becomes a sort of anti-terrorism group.

-Since I need a third: More people will become Innovators.

Shadowman wrote:So...do you have anything available?

Yhea... Lets just say that the filters here are quite strange. Public E-mail facilities, social networking sites and 90% of web fourms are blocked, effectivly stopping me from doing any work for the two anime cons I work for, seeing any of the e-mails going to my G-mail account.

I can get Seibertron, wikipedia, and news sites so I'm not "sitting in a cave", but as I said I can't see the majority of posted images, signatures, and other items not hosted directly on the site. Including Mosiacs.

Youtube also works for reasons that escape me.

Shadowman wrote:So, Gundam 00 ends this Sunday...and I feel like making some half-assed predictions:
-Graham will show up during the final battle with Ribbons. (This, I think, is a given) I want to say he'll sacrifice himself.

Graham's a smart guy, I figure that once he calms down and figures out how a-laws have been pawns that he would want in on the Ribbons beat-down.

Shadowman wrote:-A-LAWS are finally rejected, (Again, that's a given) and Earth is handed over to the much less oppressive Federation Government. Celestial Being either retires, or becomes a sort of anti-terrorism group.

-Since I need a third: More people will become Innovators.

A proper World Government is established, A-laws is disbanded, with forces either declaring loyalty to the new government or being labled as rogues.

With the existance about the Innovators becoming public knowledge, CB is retasked by the new government as a source for indentifing, teaching and training Innovators to work for humanity.

I'd like to see it done this way, so another series or specials could be done later where the new CB leads Innovators against the world government and the "serviving" heros from the current series can rise against the new enemy.

Editor wrote:

Shadowman wrote:So...do you have anything available?

Yhea... Lets just say that the filters here are quite strange. Public E-mail facilities, social networking sites and 90% of web fourms are blocked, effectivly stopping me from doing any work for the two anime cons I work for, seeing any of the e-mails going to my G-mail account.

I can get Seibertron, wikipedia, and news sites so I'm not "sitting in a cave", but as I said I can't see the majority of posted images, signatures, and other items not hosted directly on the site. Including Mosiacs.

Youtube also works for reasons that escape me.

Shadowman wrote:So, Gundam 00 ends this Sunday...and I feel like making some half-assed predictions:
-Graham will show up during the final battle with Ribbons. (This, I think, is a given) I want to say he'll sacrifice himself.

Graham's a smart guy, I figure that once he calms down and figures out how a-laws have been pawns that he would want in on the Ribbons beat-down.

Shadowman wrote:-A-LAWS are finally rejected, (Again, that's a given) and Earth is handed over to the much less oppressive Federation Government. Celestial Being either retires, or becomes a sort of anti-terrorism group.

-Since I need a third: More people will become Innovators.

A proper World Government is established, A-laws is disbanded, with forces either declaring loyalty to the new government or being labled as rogues.

With the existance about the Innovators becoming public knowledge, CB is retasked by the new government as a source for indentifing, teaching and training Innovators to work for humanity.

I'd like to see it done this way, so another series or specials could be done later where the new CB leads Innovators against the world government and the "serviving" heros from the current series can rise against the new enemy.

If that's what happens, then the next series would have even more cues to Zeta, wouldn't it? Newtypes didn't make a big appearance in 0079 (Easier than just saying "the first series") until near the end, much like Gundam 00. And the idea of several Innovators and surviving heroes working against a new enemy sounds a lot like Zeta.

Pretty much. However seing that was also done in Seed with the creation of the Orb Union allies Terminal, they may stay away from it.

Maybe it's just me, but I would perfer for the next few years to stick with existing timelines and caracters than see another timeline loosely based on what we have seen before.

As unrealistic as it would be I would like to see a series based on G-Generation, have a crisis where all the series are involved trying to defend their timelines/worlds from an evil unifying presence trying to merge everything into the Turn A timeline.

Editor wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I would perfer for the next few years to stick with existing timelines and caracters than see another timeline loosely based on what we have seen before.

If they stick with that, I figure next we'll see either Gundam X, Victory Gondam, or, worst case scenario, G Gundam

Editor wrote:As unrealistic as it would be I would like to see a series based on G-Generation, have a crisis where all the series are involved trying to defend their timelines/worlds from an evil unifying presence trying to merge everything into the Turn A timeline.

That would be nice. Although UC technology would end up being far outclassed by Cosmic Era or Anno Domini technology. Compared to the 00 Gundam or the Freedom Gundam, the Zeta Gundam isn't all that powerful.

Shadowman wrote:If they stick with that, I figure next we'll see either Gundam X, Victory Gondam, or, worst case scenario, G Gundam

Well X was concidered a complete flop so I doubt that's in the cards. And please G-Gundam was fine as a once off, but no thank you. If they have the time to do more (or inspired by) G-Gundam then they have time to make more Overman King Gainer.

Shadowman wrote: Although UC technology would end up being far outclassed by Cosmic Era or Anno Domini technology. Compared to the 00 Gundam or the Freedom Gundam, the Zeta Gundam isn't all that powerful.

Hell Dearka with the Buster could likely drop the Whitebase on his own, let alone that I doubt any fleet ship from UC could survive going up against the Archangel or Miverna in ship-to-ship battle.

Editor wrote:

Shadowman wrote: Although UC technology would end up being far outclassed by Cosmic Era or Anno Domini technology. Compared to the 00 Gundam or the Freedom Gundam, the Zeta Gundam isn't all that powerful.

Hell Dearka with the Buster could likely drop the Whitebase on his own, let alone that I doubt any fleet ship from UC could survive going up against the Archangel or Miverna in ship-to-ship battle.

To be fair, the Archangel was made to be as badass as the Gundams is was supposed to carry. And the Minerva was made to be more badass than the Archangel.

So yeah, a UC vs. CE fight would last long. A UC vs. AD fight would be even shorter.

Shadowman wrote:So yeah, a UC vs. CE fight would last long. A UC vs. AD fight would be even shorter.

Really, I would have thought that SEED technology would drop UC tech faster than 00 Tech. In an 00 vs Seed battle I'd think SEED would have the advantage.

Yhea, Trans-am would help the AD forces, but in order to counter Kira piloting the Strike Freedom, The best they can muster would by to give the Riaser equiped 00 to Graham. and even then I would think Kira would have the upper hand.

Editor wrote:

Shadowman wrote:So yeah, a UC vs. CE fight would last long. A UC vs. AD fight would be even shorter.

Really, I would have thought that SEED technology would drop UC tech faster than 00 Tech. In an 00 vs Seed battle I'd think SEED would have the advantage.

Yhea, Trans-am would help the AD forces, but in order to counter Kira piloting the Strike Freedom, The best they can muster would by to give the Riaser equiped 00 to Graham. and even then I would think Kira would have the upper hand.

I figured AD would fare better because Exia walked away from most fights without a scratch, even when it was being shot up. (Exia, keep in mind, is a very low-end mobile suit at the end of series) I recall one fight where Exia simply stood still while Setsuna was having a brief bout of PTSD, and even though other MS in the area were pummeling it, Exia didn't even suffer a scratch. In fact, the CB mobile suits didn't start having trouble until everyone else got GN Drives.

True, and a valid point.

However for most of the time when Setsuna fought with the Exia it was going up against Flags, Tierens and Enact units, and as far as baseline units that would be like Kira solidly going up against BaCUEs, GINNs and Strike Daggers.

Yhea Kira bashed up his units quite a bit, but he usually was fighting stronger units, in greater numbers, and against pilots with higher training than himself.

Editor wrote:#-o

So i seen a media blasters trailer of Berserk and im blown away by the gore and read summarys on the story. Is it worth a purchase? Or is it one of those meaningless violence anime with medicore story. And theres 3 different sets u can get which one should i get.

Personally, none of them.

I have found berserk to be a waste of time, only good for random AMV clips.

That said I know a couple people who have loved the series and manga.

Your best bet is to head over to a book store stocking the manga, take a look and see what you think. The stories are mostly spot on, so if you like it, then go for the anime.

So, I'm getting ready to start Mobile Suit Gundam. Gonna try to work my way through all the series.

I forgot to PM you back Shadow, but thanks for the help

original sin wrote:So, I'm getting ready to start Mobile Suit Gundam. Gonna try to work my way through all the series.

I recommended about 120 hours (About five days) worth of anime to you. Have fun!

original sin wrote:I forgot to PM you back Shadow, but thanks for the help

Hooray, I'm helping!

With your help and some from Wikipedia I've decided on the order in which I'm going to attempt to watch.

Mobile Suit Gundam
08th MS Team
0080: War In The Pocket
0083: Stardust Memory
Zeta Gundam
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91(Never even heard of that one...)
Victory Gundam

According to the timeline on wiki, that's the chronological order of series. So I'm hopin it works out as I'm watching

original sin wrote:Gundam F91(Never even heard of that one...)

According to Mech Anime HQ (A very good source of Gundam info), it was a two-hour movie that was supposed to be a 52 episode series. As you can imagine, 52 episodes worth of plot crammed down into two hours doesn't quite work out, and it leaves with a lot of loose ends. They have it a 3/5. (For reference, G-Savior, the terrible live-action movie, got a 1/5, while the finale to Zeta Gundam got a 5/5)

original sin wrote:With your help and some from Wikipedia I've decided on the order in which I'm going to attempt to watch.

Mobile Suit Gundam
08th MS Team
0080: War In The Pocket
0083: Stardust Memory
Zeta Gundam
Char's Counterattack
Gundam F91(Never even heard of that one...)
Victory Gundam

According to the timeline on wiki, that's the chronological order of series. So I'm hopin it works out as I'm watching

My friend had quite a few of the boxsets for that show. But he moved far away so now i have to buy them all. Im all worrried some are out of print.

Wonder what it would cost to purchase them. Ive seen a few of the sets and there not in paper cases which is nice. Paper gets all wrecked.

THERE ARE A TON OF SERIES FOR THIS SHOW. Original Sin theres way more series than what you are listing that ur giving a watch. At least according to Wiki. Unless when they came to NA there merged quite a few of the series together but than again it has been kicking since 1979.

Coughler wrote:THERE ARE A TON OF SERIES FOR THIS SHOW. Original Sin theres way more series than what you are listing that ur giving a watch. At least according to Wiki.

Of course he knows about the other series. What he listed is about all of Universal Century.

Coughler wrote:Unless when they came to NA there merged quite a few of the series together but than again it has been kicking since 1979.

Define merged. Do you mean several timelines were combined into one single timeline? Because that didn't happen anywhere.

Shadowman wrote:

Coughler wrote:THERE ARE A TON OF SERIES FOR THIS SHOW. Original Sin theres way more series than what you are listing that ur giving a watch. At least according to Wiki.

Of course he knows about the other series. What he listed is about all of Universal Century.

Yep, that's what I was goin for. I'll watch the other series after I finish Universal Century. Unless I break down and watch Wing randomly. I do love Wing

Coughler wrote:THERE ARE A TON OF SERIES FOR THIS SHOW. Original Sin theres way more series than what you are listing that ur giving a watch. At least according to Wiki. Unless when they came to NA there merged quite a few of the series together but than again it has been kicking since 1979.

Huh. At what point did this merge happen? The only attempt that I have seen of any merge is Turn A Gundam where they picked thru the different series that existed up to that point to create a story that supposedly existed in all the time-lines up to that point. (UC, G, W, and X)

Ah, G-Savior, my guilty pleasure. And should be watched by BSG fans just to see what background bits they catch. (OMG Gundams on Caprica!!!!111! THeir in the Opera House, oh noes!!!) I'll be the first to admit that "Gundam-S" was a bit of a failure, but I had a different experiance with it that most.

As it was shot here in Vancouver, once the final edits were completed, they did a showing for the cast and crew at the "Vancouver Film School" campus, and they extended an invitation to a couple people from the anime club I belong to, to attend the screening. It is a bit harder to be negative on the bits I felt were wrong when you can see how the people who worked on it felt about their work. Yes, some of them asked our opinion, and some of us were candid in our responses. But it is important to remember that this is what Bandai wanted, they didn't ask for a cookie cutter live action Gundam, as they could have made that in Japan. They wanted a North American style movie, With a different perspective and style. It was for the anniversary of the franchise and they wanted something different. It's just too bad they didn't/couldn't/wouldn't put up more cash for the project.

As gundam, it may not rate well, but as cheezy Sci-fi it's as good if not better, than others made about the same time.

original sin wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

Coughler wrote:THERE ARE A TON OF SERIES FOR THIS SHOW. Original Sin theres way more series than what you are listing that ur giving a watch. At least according to Wiki.

Of course he knows about the other series. What he listed is about all of Universal Century.

Yep, that's what I was goin for. I'll watch the other series after I finish Universal Century. Unless I break down and watch Wing randomly. I do love Wing

I thought maybe they did like what they did with Voltron or Robotech. Combine several different series together. Thus changing the story completely and naming it something different than what it was called in japan. I thought that cause theres a bajillion gundam series listed on wiki

Coughler wrote:I thought maybe they did like what they did with Voltron or Robotech. Combine several different series together. Thus changing the story completely and naming it something different than what it was called in japan. I thought that cause theres a bajillion gundam series listed on wiki

Of course they didn't. Gundam was never butchered in such a way.