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Arena Is Currently Disabled

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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Burn » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:03 pm

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Caelus wrote:Ach, the way I remember it, three months into the game people were kicking around 1mil+ trying to figure out what to do with it.


I think it may have been a bit longer than that, but personally speaking my little fortune (before Tammuz pumped it up even further) was made from the arena bug which saw the cr chamber not costing anything regardless of what level you were at.

I think Vir was fairly close in terms of weapon costs when he first programmed it, and I think it would have worked out well had we not had the glitches and handouts. But because we did, things blew out and buying the most expensive weapons is easy.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby jazzrules » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:15 am

Caelus wrote:
Burn wrote:Unfortunately we've been hit with so many energon/xp bugs, handouts, glitches ... the economy is pretty much stuffed.


Ach, the way I remember it, three months into the game people were kicking around 1mil+ trying to figure out what to do with it.


I'm currently trying to work out where my extra 1mil energon has come from overnight. Has anyone else got a mysterious million? I can't find anything anywhere to explain it.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:21 am

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Mkall wrote:Remember that seibs did have the occasional hiccup while HMW was completely off.

Yep, and even during the times the site always ran slow for me (23:00-01:00ish UK time) there has been a definate improvement.

Its never going to be perfect as the overall site is still glitchy as hell, but I think this decision has really helped.

Caelus wrote:Edit: Now, if Energon cost for CR chambers was actually related to how fast you repaired, that would have been far cooler. Paying 0 Energon gets your bot repaired in 6hrs. 10,000 Energon gets him fully repaired in 10mins. We could have burned a lot of our excess in tournies if we'd had a system like that back in the day.
An awesome idea, but the problem is that the money/player ratio is already too inbalanced and this would just help those who have the money currently.

Consider resetting all energon stocks, then removing all costs for a set period of time (ie. a month) to allow us to begin to rebuild supplies and then apply this idea?
Otherwise a fair implementation of any scheme like this is impossible.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Supercollider » Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:25 am

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jazzrules wrote:
Caelus wrote:
Burn wrote:Unfortunately we've been hit with so many energon/xp bugs, handouts, glitches ... the economy is pretty much stuffed.


Ach, the way I remember it, three months into the game people were kicking around 1mil+ trying to figure out what to do with it.


I'm currently trying to work out where my extra 1mil energon has come from overnight. Has anyone else got a mysterious million? I can't find anything anywhere to explain it.

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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Tammuz » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:19 am

yeah Jazzrecycles, the lat energon glitch hits the bots hard about 6 of them ended up with about 200 billion energon, and pretty much started being very communistic and handed to their mates/every other autobot.

the cons on the other hand only had one player who got hit, and while he did hand it to his mates this energon was used as a reward for killing in perhaps the greatest minigames HMW has known.


but yeah weapons need to function like armour(as in are destroyed when bots are reset) annd armour needs to be balanced
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:33 am

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Tammuz wrote:the cons on the other hand only had one player who got hit, and while he did hand it to his mates this energon was used as a reward for killing in perhaps the greatest minigames HMW has known.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Tammuz » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:10 am

Minicons where rather good at destroying energon, the problem is that im loathe to drop below 2 mill.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:28 am

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Watching people fight over the Quint heads was probably the highlight of the games for me, but the minicon killing was massively successful. We wiped out the Autobots supply in a matter of weeks! :twisted:

We really do need something to waste our energon on though, even if its just buying altmodes or something, ive still got 6 mil left, and I gave away over 20 in the 'schemes.
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This would work.
Tammuz wrote:weapons need to function like armour (as in are destroyed when bots are reset)
But we'd need weapon generation/stealing missions to replenish stocks after a while.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Symbiote Spiderman14 » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:50 am

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Psychout wrote:Watching people fight over the Quint heads was probably the highlight of the games for me, but the minicon killing was massively successful. We wiped out the Autobots supply in a matter of weeks! :twisted:

We really do need something to waste our energon on though, even if its just buying altmodes or something, ive still got 6 mil left, and I gave away over 20 in the 'schemes.
Most of it to Murderplex...


This would work.
Tammuz wrote:weapons need to function like armour (as in are destroyed when bots are reset)
But we'd need weapon generation/stealing missions to replenish stocks after a while.

But how would that work couldn't you just unequip a weappon before you reset
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Psychout » Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:57 am

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Good point. Maybe once you equip a weapon its unequippable until its overwritten by another one and/or lost in a reset?

Guess it depends on how often you change weapons. I dont change mine very often, the nerfing of the BB's and Dol's was the first time id had to change a weapon around in over a year.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Dragonslayer » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:21 am

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I kinda liked the idea about buying altmodes with energon. Gives the players an actual reason to save their money instead of letting it accumulate (or depreciate, depending on who you are). I know now that the only time I'd actually be spending my energon (aside from CR costs) would be to re-armor my 'Bots after resetting them, which I don't do often.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Dr. Caelus » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:26 pm

It's taken me over an hour to reply to a PM and make this post.

But then, again, I remember times when Seibertron was like this w/out the game...

Edit: Lost the site about 5min til 2pm Mountain time, but it came up again pretty fast, and now it is fine.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Malicron » Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:04 pm

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Caelus wrote:But then, again, I remember times when Seibertron was like this w/out the game...

Now there's something we hadn't considered. This site, while great, is cantankerous at the best of times. Might these slow downs be the site itself, and not the game?
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Jeep? » Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:19 am

Dragonslayer wrote:I kinda liked the idea about buying altmodes with energon. Gives the players an actual reason to save their money instead of letting it accumulate (or depreciate, depending on who you are). I know now that the only time I'd actually be spending my energon (aside from CR costs) would be to re-armor my 'Bots after resetting them, which I don't do often.


Why not give every player access to their side's "core" alts, and have the lists of "common" and "rare" ones be based not on a rotation, but on a price for which you have to buy them for your team? Flavour-wise, it's the cost of researching the ability to reformat a transformer with that alt, and game-wise, it adds another icon to the list you can choose from when giving a character an alt. A rotation of sorts could occur when the 'Alt Shop' shuffles around the available stock every now and then, making some alts available to buy, and temporarily discontinuing the ability to buy others. Once an alt has been purchased, it's there for your team to use forever, putting an end to the days of retired alts being clung to despite the desire to reset, but still allows the selection of alts to be shuffled regularly. Perhaps a cap on the number of purchased alts might need to be applied, but if they're priced accordingly (perhaps each purchase increasing the cost of the next) then it shouldn't be a problem.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Evolution Prime » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:32 pm

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Looks like the game is down again...
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Rat Convoy » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:44 pm

Well, bugger.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Halo » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:47 pm

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Rat Convoy wrote:Well, bugger.

My thoughts exactly. At least now I can go do some of my mounting homework.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Jeep? » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:51 pm

Ah, feck.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Rebirth Megatron » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:00 pm

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Just when I am geting back into the game too....
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Prowl76 » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:18 pm

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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby ranger » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:16 pm

well it was fun while it lasted
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby ranger » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:17 pm

Back to Tic Tac toe
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Naval Strike » Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:56 pm

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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby Dr. Caelus » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:06 pm

_Galvatron_ wrote:question why can't we go back to site last version.. let's face it this upgrade of the board to php3 is messing the site up



I believe that, at the very least, all posts since the upgrade would be lost.
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Re: Arena Is Currently Disabled

Postby ranger » Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:04 pm

Caelus wrote:
_Galvatron_ wrote:question why can't we go back to site last version.. let's face it this upgrade of the board to php3 is messing the site up



I believe that, at the very least, all posts since the upgrade would be lost.



Do you know what is going on now? How long will the game be down?
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